Drawing Unemployment After taking a temp job at senture

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its me

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May 30, 2010
 
I work a permanent job now and have worked there for 3 1/2 years..and want to quit ...
I have been hired at senture full time. I know it is a temp job...Once the contract is over and your laid off can you draw unemployment from your previous job, until senture calls you back??
I was just curious if you leave a permanent job and take a Temp job, is that grounds for not being able to draw unemployment..
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Mayfield, KY

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#2
May 30, 2010
 
I would think that you would be eligible for unemployment under those circumstances. You can contact the Department of Labor or look for more information on their website.
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#3
May 30, 2010
 
I am with understanding that if you "quit" a job without reasonable cause, you cannot get unemployment. If you are laid off or fired, you can.

When you are laid off, unemployment is generally a given. When you are fired and sign up, your possibility of getting it is very good, however, an employer has the option of rebuttal, in that you were fired for X reason. If you quit, the job was available for you, therefore it's next to impossible to get.

This is how it is in Illinois. I'm sure it's similar in Ky. and maybe someone will come on and make any corrections versus Illinois law.
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#4
May 30, 2010
 
SpeakUp wrote:
I am with understanding that if you "quit" a job without reasonable cause, you cannot get unemployment. If you are laid off or fired, you can.
When you are laid off, unemployment is generally a given. When you are fired and sign up, your possibility of getting it is very good, however, an employer has the option of rebuttal, in that you were fired for X reason. If you quit, the job was available for you, therefore it's next to impossible to get.
This is how it is in Illinois. I'm sure it's similar in Ky. and maybe someone will come on and make any corrections versus Illinois law.
I think u r pretty well right on this issue.
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#5
May 30, 2010
 
Thank you Laid off. I'm not familiar with the Ky. unemployment laws, but I am Illinois. It's a great thing this person is asking questions . Alot of people just plunge into things without asking and incur consequences. We see it in the tax industry all the time.
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#6
May 30, 2010
 
But if I quit a permanent job and to take a Temp job, Can unemployment still be drawn until Im called back on temp job, knowing I quit full time permanent job for a temp job that I know I will be laid off when contract ends..
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May 30, 2010
 
me me wrote:
But if I quit a permanent job and to take a Temp job, Can unemployment still be drawn until Im called back on temp job, knowing I quit full time permanent job for a temp job that I know I will be laid off when contract ends..
Sorry I can't help more. I'm not sure about ur situation.
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#8
May 30, 2010
 
I did something similar, but I was told that I had to make AT LEAST as much as I made at the first job (I think it was for the last three months) plus 10% more over that. It's been a few years, so I'd check first. Also, my temp job (not with Senture) didn't last NEARLY as long as I was told.
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#9
May 30, 2010
 
Is the temp job you are taking through a Temp Agency, or, is the temp job directly with an employer that you got on your own.

If it's through a Temp Agency, the employer might be paying the agency directly, then the agency pays you and you wind up with a 1099-MISC form as a "Nonemployee". In that sense, no, you couldn't get uenmployment to the best of my knowledge.

If your temp job is gotten on your own directly with an employer, then you are deemed an employee as long as they pay you on a W-2 structure. When you are on a W-2 (employee) structure, that employer would pay in unemployment insurance on you, thus making you qualify for unemployment benefits.

By your having an employer AFTER you left that first job, even though it was a permanent one, it has no bearing on your option to collect off the temp job.

I believe unemployment goes back to the 4 quarters of the previous year first. If there's nothing collectible there, they move forward. And since your first job (the permanent one) certainly would oppose your getting it off them, they'd then go to your most recent employer. Then you would be entitled to benefits from that.

Bear in mind, you must work X weeks before qualifying for unemployment (in your case, with your most recent employer). How much money you've earned will determine your benefits, along with how many dependents you might claim for unemployment purposes.

Again, hopefully, someone from Ky. skilled on Ky. laws hopefully will come through and confirm or deny anything I've stated that is in accordance with Illinois law.

Good luck. I know changes can be beneficial sometimes if it leads to a better future for you.
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#10
May 30, 2010
 
Just saw similar's post. That might be something you'd need to check out. However, I know a case in Illinois where an employee was actually fired after 6 wks.,and signed up for unemployment. Since the employer was a client of mine, I spoke directly with unemployment on the issue and they told me, if you worked as much as 6 weeks, you could get it.

Inasmuch as similar may have a good point there re Ky. Law, I somehow would be hardpressed to comprehend that since you are trying to work, it's not your fault you got laid off and somehow I'd think (just my personal opinion),you'd be eligible. Just not sure though.

I wonder if similar, and they can respond to this, maybe might have the "extention" of unemployment benefits this last time mixed up with intially certifying for benefits (new claim)? That I know had a rule of you had to make X% over a certain time frame. But that wouldn't apply to opening a new claim.

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#11
May 30, 2010
 
It used to be that you could draw unemployment after being employed for 10 weeks, but they seem to change things very often. I would call and actually talk to someone. Then you will know for sure.
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#12
May 30, 2010
 
They say the job is going to last until August...Right now I make 7.50 and the temp job pays 13.43...But they are hiring alot of people so who knows how long it will really last..I know Im trying to work but with unemployment paying out as much as they are Im just wondering if they will try to say that Since I quit a permanant job and knownly accepted a temp job Im not eligile for benefits???
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May 30, 2010
 
its me wrote:
I work a permanent job now and have worked there for 3 1/2 years..and want to quit ...
I have been hired at senture full time. I know it is a temp job...Once the contract is over and your laid off can you draw unemployment from your previous job, until senture calls you back??
I was just curious if you leave a permanent job and take a Temp job, is that grounds for not being able to draw unemployment..
if you get laid off your second job you can back up and draw from your first even if you quit. it was like that at one time.to be sure, call and ask so you wont get any surprises. good luck
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#14
May 30, 2010
 
Again, people quit jobs all the time for various reasons. Again, to the best of my knowledge, they don't ask you why you quit a job and even if they did, you tell them clearly it wasn't enough money to live on, so you moved on to one that paid a higher wage believing that it might could turn into a permanent one.

I am under the belief (not sure) that even if they go back to that permanent job he's speaking of, the employer can contest it because factually, he did quit. All that employer would have to state is "hey, he had the job, he could have stayed and he chose not to, not us". But even if that happens, it would not void your being able to collect unemployment from the temp job IF they pay you as an "employee" and you've worked long enough there to qualify for benefits.
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May 30, 2010
 

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I worked at senture on a contract and they done us realy shitty. they tell u when they hire u that u will be able to draw it but then they will make some reason why that they wont approve it.
dont get me wrong im saying this to make them look bad but its the truth
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#16
May 30, 2010
 
I did some reading up on this and found a Colorado case.

First, no one has answered my questions as to doyou go through a Temp Agency, or, Senture directly?

When contracts are multiple pages, it's unlikely anyone reads all of them (and some, no part of them). They just sign here, sign here, sign here.

In the Colorado case, the woman DID get unemployment benefits after a temporary job, however, she neglected to read one fine line in her contract that stated "you must contact the agency within 24 hours of finishing the assignment". After she was drawing her benefits, she was later ordered to repay due to the fact she did not adhere to that specific statement in the contract.

I believe, fact is, you can qualify for benefits after a temporary job as long as you read that contract before you sign it and are aware of what must be done when that contract ends (end of assignment).
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#17
May 31, 2010
 
My job was supposed to turn permanent, but never did and only lasted about 2/3 the time it was supposed to anyway. This was a long while back, so there was no extension benefits at the time. I applied for unemployment, but was denied because I had not made an equal amount plus 10% in the quarter or so I worked there and the old employer denied my claim. I was only off for a month or so before I found another job, so it really wasn't all that big to me at the time.

I would definitely call the unemployment office, and like "Speak Up" said, read EVERY LETTER of the contract. Most of the data entry/call center companies that hire temp jobs make it nearly impossible to collect unemployment after the job is complete. So make sure you've got all the mental i's and t's crossed in your head before you take the job!
me me

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#18
May 31, 2010
 
Senture directly
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#19
May 31, 2010
 
I agree. Call the unemployment office. You need not even say anything about the first permanent job or your inclination to quit. That has NO bearing on it whatsoever.

Just simply say "if I take a temporary job, that I hope would turn into a permanent one, but not sure, what are the rules just in case it doesn't go permanent and I need to collect unemployment while looking for another job"? Say "is there a certain amount of weeks or monies I have to earn in order to qualify for benefits?"

Get over that previous permanent job thing...NO bearing whatsoever regardless. Just READ the contract before you sign on dotted line at Senure.
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#20
Jun 1, 2010
 
The one at Senture says clearly "Temporary Position" That is what is on the paperwork I have.

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