Lisa Gilliam Charged with Murder
RIGHT

London, KY

#8644 Sep 22, 2012
Drama wrote:
<quoted text>It's really strange that so many people can et in the same court room , hear the same words spoken and yet hear such different (supposed) statements. I'll give one quick example, the partial print on the trigger. It was not wiped clean. The print was not of quality to identify. DNA on the trigger? Was it tested? Was it unbelievable that both person's DNA might be found on the trigger due to his pulling it and due to her picking the gun up afterwards to remove it from the immediate area in case of either accidental discharge and/or Larry stil being able to re-fire the gun if attempted? It's all so easy to say what WE would or would not have done in the same situation as being present at the time another shot himself. The truth is, none of us knows how we would have ACTUALLY reacted under the same circumstances. Yet, some want a LEGALLY PRESUMED INNOCENT person to be convicted based upon what WE THOUGHT we would have done. BS, short and simple. She had an excellent team among other pluses on her side, including being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's a shame she has had to spend money on defending herself against what amounted to a vendetta backed by a LONG line of ex-wives (8 prior to her marriage to him) and the HUGE concern that his life insurance would go to the wrong person, his legal wife. As far as a re-trial, IF (and it's really a big IF) the DA actually undertakes this attempt to convict an innocent woman again, it's a major waste of tax money and the time and effort of a justice system who could better serve the people by going after real criminals.
You're giving yourself away lisa. Do your lawyers know you're on topix?
yes

London, KY

#8645 Sep 22, 2012
SpeakUp wrote:
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IF it was a 10-2, I believe you may be right. The DA better think long and hard on this one before they assess more unecessary costs onto the taxpayers. Here's my take. If it was a 10-2, they're going to think twice...or 5 times. If it's different to that, they'll risk it. The heat is on. This would be a horrific defeat on their resume.
good try lisa trying to plant ideas
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8646 Sep 22, 2012
Never in my life wrote:
SO...NO ONE knows how the gun got in the drawer?????
It appears that way. But you'd think, there were so many that seem to have been in that room that day, someone would know wouldn't you? They know so much else. All I have is a theory and admittingly, it's just that..a theory. My first question would be, was the gun in that drawer to begin with and is that the location it was accessed from? Where was the precise location his body was found? Was he behind that desk? IF he was at the desk where the gun was found in the drawer, precisely where was he when the shot was fired? If in fact he was behind that desk, took the gun from the drawer, inflicted the fatal wound, his hand could have fell back over that drawer and the gun dropped. Very logical event. I certainly wasn't there and I wasn't in the courtroom to hear all direct evidence which is why, this is a theory only. What kind of supposed towel was suppose to be on the gun when it was found, according to speculation on here? Where's any proof that she did that vs him having used a towel-like over the gun to muffle some sound? Was the drawer, when police came, open or closed? And I don't mean speculatively ...I mean factually?

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#8648 Sep 22, 2012
WillyP wrote:
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Yep, you're far too smart, educated, rich, and good looking for me to try to fool. You've exceeded my expectations.
You forgot to use your sarcasm font.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8649 Sep 22, 2012
Drunken Monkey wrote:
<quoted text>You forgot to use your sarcasm font.
Why do you have may picture on your name? I'm the 800# gorilla you know. Please don't try to steal my limelight and 15 minutes of fame here! lol
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8650 Sep 22, 2012
Correction: L1 "my"
RETRIAL

London, KY

#8651 Sep 23, 2012
Drama wrote:
<quoted text>It's really strange that so many people can et in the same court room , hear the same words spoken and yet hear such different (supposed) statements. I'll give one quick example, the partial print on the trigger. It was not wiped clean. The print was not of quality to identify. DNA on the trigger? Was it tested? Was it unbelievable that both person's DNA might be found on the trigger due to his pulling it and due to her picking the gun up afterwards to remove it from the immediate area in case of either accidental discharge and/or Larry stil being able to re-fire the gun if attempted? It's all so easy to say what WE would or would not have done in the same situation as being present at the time another shot himself. The truth is, none of us knows how we would have ACTUALLY reacted under the same circumstances. Yet, some want a LEGALLY PRESUMED INNOCENT person to be convicted based upon what WE THOUGHT we would have done. BS, short and simple. She had an excellent team among other pluses on her side, including being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's a shame she has had to spend money on defending herself against what amounted to a vendetta backed by a LONG line of ex-wives (8 prior to her marriage to him) and the HUGE concern that his life insurance would go to the wrong person, his legal wife. As far as a re-trial, IF (and it's really a big IF) the DA actually undertakes this attempt to convict an innocent woman again, it's a major waste of tax money and the time and effort of a justice system who could better serve the people by going after real criminals.
The public wants this case resolved and backs spending the money in doing so. There was not 8 ex wives, there's 5, he married one twice.

It says a lot that these ex wives would set any differences aside to do the right thing because they all know he would not kill himself. The instructions to the jury was murder or not no suicide option.

lisa's ex husbands agree that she is mentally ill and evil, why didn't you mention that?
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8652 Sep 23, 2012
Are you confirming that all ex's, even the one who was reportedly sueing him for child support, hae psychology degrees?

Indeed the instructions were what the charge is. However, since she was charged with Murder, in part, her defense is showing reasons why he would want to take his own life.

From reading alot of posts, I have gathered that both in the 5th and 6th ones, he met some matches finally. I'd imagine it would be found on record the 5th one took him to the cleaners and most likely, the threat of taking him down with the Bar and alot of other things he couldn't afford to have exposed.

Some of you haven't taken one single thing into consideration as to the why this man may have wanted to take himself out. This man was up against a wall if anyone was ever up against a wall. Is it also possible that if anyone ran a credit report on him, they'd have to have first bought out a paper factory? Nah, that's not important, right? What's important to some of you is, they find her guilty, send her to San Quentin, throw her in solitary confinement and let her suffocate from claustrophobia....guilty from opinion.
seriously

Hazard, KY

#8653 Sep 23, 2012
Of course Lisa's ex husband would say she was mentally ill and evil. Isnt he a preacher? Didnt she have an affair with Larry while still married to this preacher? Of course in her line of work at one time wouldnt she have to be a bitch since she was a probation officer? Its funny how this town is so quick to judge one person and that being Lisa Gilliam and their personal judgement of her makes her a murderer. Well the evidence or therefore the lack of disputes any personal opinion anyone in this town may have and thats the truth. I believe she is innocent and that Mr. Gilliam did committ suicide.
joke

London, KY

#8654 Sep 24, 2012
seriously wrote:
Of course Lisa's ex husband would say she was mentally ill and evil. Isnt he a preacher? Didnt she have an affair with Larry while still married to this preacher? Of course in her line of work at one time wouldnt she have to be a bitch since she was a probation officer? Its funny how this town is so quick to judge one person and that being Lisa Gilliam and their personal judgement of her makes her a murderer. Well the evidence or therefore the lack of disputes any personal opinion anyone in this town may have and thats the truth. I believe she is innocent and that Mr. Gilliam did committ suicide.
You forgot to mention lisas ex before the preacher, they both say shes evil and mentally ill.
sue

London, KY

#8655 Sep 24, 2012
SpeakUp wrote:
Are you confirming that all ex's, even the one who was reportedly sueing him for child support, hae psychology degrees?
Indeed the instructions were what the charge is. However, since she was charged with Murder, in part, her defense is showing reasons why he would want to take his own life.
From reading alot of posts, I have gathered that both in the 5th and 6th ones, he met some matches finally. I'd imagine it would be found on record the 5th one took him to the cleaners and most likely, the threat of taking him down with the Bar and alot of other things he couldn't afford to have exposed.
Some of you haven't taken one single thing into consideration as to the why this man may have wanted to take himself out. This man was up against a wall if anyone was ever up against a wall. Is it also possible that if anyone ran a credit report on him, they'd have to have first bought out a paper factory? Nah, that's not important, right? What's important to some of you is, they find her guilty, send her to San Quentin, throw her in solitary confinement and let her suffocate from claustrophobia....guilty from opinion.
Get your facts straight NOBODY WAS SUEING HIM FOR CHILD SUPPORT! The paper got a lot of things wrong!!
I am too

London, KY

#8656 Sep 24, 2012
seriously wrote:
Of course Lisa's ex husband would say she was mentally ill and evil. Isnt he a preacher? Didnt she have an affair with Larry while still married to this preacher? Of course in her line of work at one time wouldnt she have to be a bitch since she was a probation officer? Its funny how this town is so quick to judge one person and that being Lisa Gilliam and their personal judgement of her makes her a murderer. Well the evidence or therefore the lack of disputes any personal opinion anyone in this town may have and thats the truth. I believe she is innocent and that Mr. Gilliam did committ suicide.
Ido too,then he put the gun in the drawer,shut the drawer then laid down an waited to die.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8657 Sep 24, 2012
RETRIAL wrote:
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The public wants this case resolved and backs spending the money in doing so. There was not 8 ex wives, there's 5, he married one twice.
It says a lot that these ex wives would set any differences aside to do the right thing because they all know he would not kill himself. The instructions to the jury was murder or not no suicide option.
lisa's ex husbands agree that she is mentally ill and evil, why didn't you mention that?
Really? Then bring in the DNA Specialists, Psychologists, CSI Team, Blood Splatter Experts, 3- Coroners with the same conclusion, toxicology experts...the whole 9 yards and anyone else you can think of. I'm all for it. Go for broke. I say do it!
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8658 Sep 24, 2012
sue wrote:
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Get your facts straight NOBODY WAS SUEING HIM FOR CHILD SUPPORT! The paper got a lot of things wrong!!
OK. Then you better sue the paper then! I would if I were you. We'll in the meantime assume you know all 6 wives and all personal issues that ever went on and did go on. But for now, I'll take your word for it. Besides, after those stated alimony checks that day and the almost $4000 in cash paid for a Bahamas trip, there probably wouldn't have been much left anyway, except those stacks of cash with sticky notes it was proposed found on the desk? LGMS
Bounty Hunter

United States

#8659 Sep 24, 2012
I am too wrote:
<quoted text>Ido too,then he put the gun in the drawer,shut the drawer then laid down an waited to die.
Or when the crime scene was processed coudnot someone picked up the gun wiped it clean and put it in a drawer? This allegation is just as plausable as any I have heard. I believe the crime scene was compromised allegedly by our police department. Strange how someone can be "promoted" to detective and have absolutely no investigative skills in small town police departments. They are alot of unaswered questions where the crime scene is concerened.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8660 Sep 24, 2012
joke wrote:
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You forgot to mention lisas ex before the preacher, they both say shes evil and mentally ill.
Naturally......wouldn't that be obvious? lol

How many preachers hang a shingle for a living while their congregations consist of 5 people..Bubba, Bubba, Bubba, Bubba and Mrs. Bubba.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#8661 Sep 24, 2012
Bounty Hunter wrote:
<quoted text>Or when the crime scene was processed coudnot someone picked up the gun wiped it clean and put it in a drawer? This allegation is just as plausable as any I have heard. I believe the crime scene was compromised allegedly by our police department. Strange how someone can be "promoted" to detective and have absolutely no investigative skills in small town police departments. They are alot of unaswered questions where the crime scene is concerened.
By all means. Let's prepare a citizen's defense in case the final verdict is Not Guilty. ha At least, it'll give you guys something to do after a Jury of 12, that sees and hears factual evidence, finds Prosecution has failed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. You see, Bubba. That's what happens when you go for the juggler. You better stick to bounty hunting! Maybe you can catch a cat chasing a mouse.
Funny

Hazard, KY

#8662 Sep 24, 2012
I think Speakup has went off the deep end.
WillyP

Louisville, KY

#8663 Sep 24, 2012
Funny wrote:
I think Speakup has went off the deep end.
She's been off the deep end for years. Keep in mind that she's essentially a moron with visions of grandeur. She'll exaggerate, ignore, and tell outlandish lies if her twisted mind thinks that will support her agenda. My guess is she's related to Ms. Gilliam and has been using her perverted version of Chicago politics to try to influence potential jurors. But, keep in mind that the central theme of every post she's ever made is shameless self-aggrandizement. I give thanks to the Lord that she's not likely to "help" me.
Bounty Hunter

Lima, OH

#8664 Sep 24, 2012
SpeakUp wrote:
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By all means. Let's prepare a citizen's defense in case the final verdict is Not Guilty. ha At least, it'll give you guys something to do after a Jury of 12, that sees and hears factual evidence, finds Prosecution has failed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. You see, Bubba. That's what happens when you go for the juggler. You better stick to bounty hunting! Maybe you can catch a cat chasing a mouse.
All I am saying is the Crime scene could have been better processed. evidence lost could have been used to exonerate the accused. Evidence mishandled could have been used to exonerate the accused. With the same applying to the Prosecution. While their was a big article in the Sentinel Echo about the City Police being certified in Meth Lab Clean up. I have yet to see an Add concerning the education of the Police Department in Crime Scene Investigation.

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