What Has America Become?

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Oldie but goodie

Chicago, IL

#1 Mar 15, 2012
I dont remember London topix discussing this subject, and I know its an old article.
What has America become? Your input without cursing and swearing would be valued.

Editor,

Has America become the land of special interest and home of the double standard?

Lets see: if we lie to the Congress, it’s a felony and if the Congress lies to us its just politics; if we dislike a black person, we’re racist and if a black person dislikes whites, its their 1st Amendment right; the government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and they do almost nothing for the victims; in public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK, but you better not use the word God in the process; you can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer; we don’t burn books in America, we now rewrite them; we got rid of communist and socialist threats by renaming them progressive; we are unable to close our border with Mexico, but have no problem protecting the 38th parallel in Korea; if you protest against President Obama’s policies you’re a terrorist, but if you burned an American flag or George Bush in effigy it was your 1st Amendment right.

You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas; we have eliminated all criminals in America, they are now called sick people; we can use a human fetus for medical research, but it is wrong to use an animal.

We take money from those who work hard for it and give it to those who don’t want to work; we all support the Constitution, but only when it supports our political ideology; we still have freedom of speech, but only if we are being politically correct; parenting has been replaced with Ritalin and video games; the land of opportunity is now the land of hand outs; the similarity between Hurricane Katrina and the gulf oil spill is that neither president did anything to help.

And how do we handle a major crisis today? The government appoints a committee to determine who’s at fault, then threatens them, passes a law, raises our taxes; tells us the problem is solved so they can get back to their reelection campaign.

What has happened to the land of the free and home of the brave?

- Ken Huber
Tawas City

Here is a picture of the original Letter to the Editor as it appeared in the Iosco County News Herald…
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/...
occupy the goverment

Sheridan, AR

#2 Mar 16, 2012
ive only ever voted for nader, i have way to much pride to vote for the corprate parties,not that people in london should even have a say in the matter they have proven there ignorance over and over
u can say that again

Olathe, KS

#4 Mar 16, 2012
SpeakUp Useful Idiots wrote:
It's become a county of Lowlifes and Freeloaders that lay on their azz on the draw while the productive support them.
that is true, and its the ones that do those things that are fighting freedom of speech, and freedoms of religion.
they hate the followers of christ so much, and so i think they WANT the bible to be a lie and they want it to be wrong about everything.
thats why people invented all the evolution theories.
to fight the bible with.

Since: Sep 09

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#5 Mar 16, 2012
Oldie but goodie wrote:
I dont remember London topix discussing this subject, and I know its an old article.
What has America become? Your input without cursing and swearing would be valued.
Editor,
Has America become the land of special interest and home of the double standard?
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/...
Looking at all you put. Lets see .....

Double standards? Try being a women if you want to see double standards. That's not new. It's been like this for thousands of years. You'll get use to it, we did.

If a black person dislikes whites, its their 1st Amendment right? There have been blacks prosecuted under the hate crimes laws. And when has 'anyone' white been arrested for speaking their opinions? The fact that the kkk has the right to protest and march shows that.

The government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and they do almost nothing for the victims? And you would have the government do what? Just shove criminals back out onto the streets?

Public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK? Sorry, I never had that class in school. But could it really be a matter of only wanting the same civil rights you have?

You better not use the word God in the process? That's separation of Government and Religion. Don't believe in the US Constitution, huh? But students have the full right to worship at school. It's only that the government cannot tell you 'who' to worship. That's up to each student.

You can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer? I'm a Liberal ..... but I believe in the death penalty and think it should be used more often. A lot of us, those dang Liberals as you would call us, believe in the death penalty. The abortion part ..... a woman, or even a man, should have the freedom to decide for themselves whether to have children. In America there should not be religious-law in the form of sharia or a Christian version of it. Freedom of choice rules over government setting laws on our bodies.

We got rid of communist and socialist threats by renaming them progressive? But you want the President to control private sector businesses such as oil and gas companies. If you don't want socialism then stop complaining about the price of gas.

We are unable to close our border with Mexico? And you want to what? Start killing women and children sneaking in? How did the last Republican administration solve the problem during their eight years in office? What can the Democrats or Republicans do? It's an equally challenging problem for either Party.

If you protest against President Obama's policies you're a terrorist, but if you burned an American flag or George Bush in effigy it was your 1st Amendment right? You lost me ..... when have you been arrested for posting anti-Obama posts or for protesting against Obama?

You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas? Porno is not a violation of Government And Religion. Put a nativity scene up in your front yard, it's legal, no one will stop you.

We have eliminated all criminals in America? Then why does America have more people in prison than a lot of other nations? Raise your kids better is one way to reduce that. Any other suggestions to reduce criminal? I'll listen to them.

We take money from those who work hard for it and give it to those who don't want to work? Then stop opposing birth control being covered by insurance policies. Less alcoholics, drug abusers, and low-income people being pregnant means less public assistance later.

We still have freedom of speech, but only if we are being politically correct? Strange, I see you are being permitted to post this post.

Parenting has been replaced with Ritalin and video games? What are you on? A computer. Do you have beer in your home?

As for the rest of your post ..... which government do you think has a better form of government?

Since: Sep 09

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#6 Mar 16, 2012
Oldie but goodie wrote:
I dont remember London topix discussing this subject, and I know its an old article.
What has America become? Your input without cursing and swearing would be valued.
Editor,
Sorry if this posts twice or more. I think the topix servers are messing up again. I attempted to post to you a minute ago.

Looking at all you put. Lets see .....

Double standards? Try being a women if you want to see double standards. That's not new. It's been like this for thousands of years. You'll get use to it, we did.

If a black person dislikes whites, its their 1st Amendment right? There have been blacks prosecuted under the hate crimes laws. And when has 'anyone' white been arrested for speaking their opinions? The fact that the kkk has the right to protest and march shows that.

The government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and they do almost nothing for the victims? And you would have the government do what? Just shove criminals back out onto the streets?

Public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK? Sorry, I never had that class in school. But could it really be a matter of only wanting the same civil rights you have?

You better not use the word God in the process? That's separation of Government and Religion. Don't believe in the US Constitution, huh? But students have the full right to worship at school. It's only that the government cannot tell you 'who' to worship. That's up to each student.

You can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer? I'm a Liberal ..... but I believe in the death penalty and think it should be used more often. A lot of us, those dang Liberals as you would call us, believe in the death penalty. The abortion part ..... a woman, or even a man, should have the freedom to decide for themselves whether to have children. In America there should not be religious-law in the form of sharia or a Christian version of it. Freedom of choice rules over government setting laws on our bodies.

We got rid of communist and socialist threats by renaming them progressive? But you want the President to control private sector businesses such as oil and gas companies. If you don't want socialism then stop complaining about the price of gas.

We are unable to close our border with Mexico? And you want to what? Start killing women and children sneaking in? How did the last Republican administration solve the problem during their eight years in office? What can the Democrats or Republicans do? It's an equally challenging problem for either Party.

If you protest against President Obama's policies you're a terrorist, but if you burned an American flag or George Bush in effigy it was your 1st Amendment right? You lost me ..... when have you been arrested for posting anti-Obama posts or for protesting against Obama?

You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas? Porno is not a violation of Government And Religion. Put a nativity scene up in your front yard, it's legal, no one will stop you.

We have eliminated all criminals in America? Then why does America have more people in prison than a lot of other nations? Raise your kids better is one way to reduce that. Any other suggestions to reduce criminal? I'll listen to them.

We take money from those who work hard for it and give it to those who don't want to work? Then stop opposing birth control being covered by insurance policies. Less alcoholics, drug abusers, and low-income people being pregnant means less public assistance later.

We still have freedom of speech, but only if we are being politically correct? Strange, I see you are being permitted to post this post.

Parenting has been replaced with Ritalin and video games? What are you on? A computer. Do you have beer in your home?

As for the rest of your post ..... which government do you think has a better form of government?

Since: Sep 09

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#7 Mar 16, 2012
Oldie but goodie wrote:
I dont remember London topix discussing this subject, and I know its an old article.
What has America become? Your input without cursing and swearing would be valued.
Editor,
Has America become the land of special interest and home of the double standard?
Lets see: if we lie to the Congress, it’s a felony and if the Congress lies to us its just politics; if we dislike a black person, we’re racist and if a black person dislikes whites, its their 1st Amendment right; the government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and they do almost nothing for the victims; in public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK, but you better not use the word God in the process; you can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer; we don’t burn books in America, we now rewrite them; we got rid of communist and socialist threats by renaming them progressive; we are unable to close our border with Mexico, but have no problem protecting the 38th parallel in Korea; if you protest against President Obama’s policies you’re a terrorist, but if you burned an American flag or George Bush in effigy it was your 1st Amendment right.
You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas; we have eliminated all criminals in America, they are now called sick people; we can use a human fetus for medical research, but it is wrong to use an animal.
We take money from those who work hard for it and give it to those who don’t want to work; we all support the Constitution, but only when it supports our political ideology; we still have freedom of speech, but only if we are being politically correct; parenting has been replaced with Ritalin and video games; the land of opportunity is now the land of hand outs; the similarity between Hurricane Katrina and the gulf oil spill is that neither president did anything to help.
And how do we handle a major crisis today? The government appoints a committee to determine who’s at fault, then threatens them, passes a law, raises our taxes; tells us the problem is solved so they can get back to their reelection campaign.
What has happened to the land of the free and home of the brave?
- Ken Huber
Tawas City
Here is a picture of the original Letter to the Editor as it appeared in the Iosco County News Herald…
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/...
I should have worded my last question more clearly. You may not know what it means from the wording.

As for the rest of your post ..... which 'nation' do you think has a better form of government?

Since: Sep 09

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#8 Mar 16, 2012
I think we have a great nation. Can you think of a better one that's out there in the world? If we lived in some countries, even if poster #1 and I are opposites in our beliefs, we both speak about things some governments do not want to hear, do not want their citizens saying. Both of us would be imprisoned, maybe killed. A lot of people on this forum would be. That's true. Because there 'are' people sitting in prisons in some parts of the world for saying the same things I hear or see daily here in America. Can you think of a better government than ours?
occupy the goverment

Somerset, KY

#9 Mar 16, 2012
jenny you had me till you brought up mexico ,no one in goverment wants the boader closed ,no one that is something the right tells people who have never lived out west ,you can trust me on that ,now as for best country in the world.i do love america ive been coast to coast amazingly big and beautiful .but as far as goverment goes you asked. i can name a few goverments thats better sweden finland almost ever nordic countries goverment is better then ours ,why you might want to know ,because what the people wanted they got they wanted there youth to have a future men and women a chance to work and security in old age.that is better when goverment reflects the people .people that is of good will,

Since: Sep 09

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#10 Mar 17, 2012
occupy the goverment wrote:
jenny you had me till you brought up mexico ,no one in goverment wants the boader closed ,no one that is something the right tells people who have never lived out west ,you can trust me on that ,now as for best country in the world.i do love america ive been coast to coast amazingly big and beautiful .but as far as goverment goes you asked. i can name a few goverments thats better sweden finland almost ever nordic countries goverment is better then ours ,why you might want to know ,because what the people wanted they got they wanted there youth to have a future men and women a chance to work and security in old age.that is better when goverment reflects the people .people that is of good will,
I figured a lot didn't want it closed. Too much cheap labor would be lost. The proof is in that everyone yells stop them from coming in, when there is no safe way to do it. But if someone says the way to stop illegals is to shut off the job supply to them by going after the Americans hiring them ..... no jobs, far less illegals coming in and most of the ones here head home ..... the politicians suddenly begin changing the subject. Then a few minutes later begin once again yelling the same-ol'-same-ol'.
water dowser

United States

#12 Mar 18, 2012
u can say that again wrote:
<quoted text>that is true, and its the ones that do those things that are fighting freedom of speech, and freedoms of religion.
they hate the followers of christ so much, and so i think they WANT the bible to be a lie and they want it to be wrong about everything.
thats why people invented all the evolution theories.
to fight the bible with.
No one is fighting freedom of religion except conservatives. You see freedom of religion is for all the different faiths, not just the practitioners of the most common faith. Conservatives are trying to force everyone to live according to THEIR interpretation of the Bible.

Give an example of liberals attacking freedom of speech.

Evolution? God is the master creator. The Bible stated creationism in terms we could understand. Just because God didn't discuss using evolution doesn't mean that he didn't use it.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#13 Mar 18, 2012
SpeakUp Useful Idiots wrote:
It's become a county of Lowlifes and Freeloaders that lay on their azz on the draw while the productive support them.
Then why is it the majority vote Republican?
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#14 Mar 18, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
<quoted text>
Looking at all you put. Lets see .....
Double standards? Try being a women if you want to see double standards. That's not new. It's been like this for thousands of years. You'll get use to it, we did.
If a black person dislikes whites, its their 1st Amendment right? There have been blacks prosecuted under the hate crimes laws. And when has 'anyone' white been arrested for speaking their opinions? The fact that the kkk has the right to protest and march shows that.
The government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and they do almost nothing for the victims? And you would have the government do what? Just shove criminals back out onto the streets?
Public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK? Sorry, I never had that class in school. But could it really be a matter of only wanting the same civil rights you have?
You better not use the word God in the process? That's separation of Government and Religion. Don't believe in the US Constitution, huh? But students have the full right to worship at school. It's only that the government cannot tell you 'who' to worship. That's up to each student.
You can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer? I'm a Liberal ..... but I believe in the death penalty and think it should be used more often. A lot of us, those dang Liberals as you would call us, believe in the death penalty. The abortion part ..... a woman, or even a man, should have the freedom to decide for themselves whether to have children. In America there should not be religious-law in the form of sharia or a Christian version of it. Freedom of choice rules over government setting laws on our bodies.
We got rid of communist and socialist threats by renaming them progressive? But you want the President to control private sector businesses such as oil and gas companies. If you don't want socialism then stop complaining about the price of gas.
We are unable to close our border with Mexico? And you want to what? Start killing women and children sneaking in? How did the last Republican administration solve the problem during their eight years in office? What can the Democrats or Republicans do? It's an equally challenging problem for either Party.
If you protest against President Obama's policies you're a terrorist, but if you burned an American flag or George Bush in effigy it was your 1st Amendment right? You lost me ..... when have you been arrested for posting anti-Obama posts or for protesting against Obama?
You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas? Porno is not a violation of Government And Religion. Put a nativity scene up in your front yard, it's legal, no one will stop you.
We have eliminated all criminals in America? Then why does America have more people in prison than a lot of other nations? Raise your kids better is one way to reduce that. Any other suggestions to reduce criminal? I'll listen to them.
We take money from those who work hard for it and give it to those who don't want to work? Then stop opposing birth control being covered by insurance policies. Less alcoholics, drug abusers, and low-income people being pregnant means less public assistance later.
We still have freedom of speech, but only if we are being politically correct? Strange, I see you are being permitted to post this post.
Parenting has been replaced with Ritalin and video games? What are you on? A computer. Do you have beer in your home?
As for the rest of your post ..... which government do you think has a better form of government?
Jen, I fear your logics are abit heavy for your viewing audience here.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#15 Mar 18, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
<quoted text>
I figured a lot didn't want it closed. Too much cheap labor would be lost. The proof is in that everyone yells stop them from coming in, when there is no safe way to do it. But if someone says the way to stop illegals is to shut off the job supply to them by going after the Americans hiring them ..... no jobs, far less illegals coming in and most of the ones here head home ..... the politicians suddenly begin changing the subject. Then a few minutes later begin once again yelling the same-ol'-same-ol'.
That's precisely what I've been stating all along. We didn't have enough already prior to Bush's "working visa program" when he said corporate america needed thousands and thousands more. Absolutely. There are almost 20M here now and all of them are eating. They don't eat unless they buy groceries and they don't buy groceries if they don't have money. America is paying them to stay here. Not only corporate america, but you see them in yards across the country working..on top of roofs working. Every greedy American LOVES cheap labor. Problem is, conservatives like their cake and eat it too. They suck the govt. tit dry, they work for cheap labor, then bit-h about it. Back to the Constitution my ass.
MadMax

Brownsville, TN

#16 Mar 18, 2012
I guess I will put in my 2 cents for the day..!
When I cam back to corbin from london in recent times I can tell you of this, that already bad problems and needless foolishness have increased to a more then acceptable leavel of unproductivness among the local population of what at one time was at least a respectable small town part of Americana.
I do attribute this to a severe failure in both or federal and local govermental bodies of power. I do truly believe that not only should we feel some empathy for our friendly local fools and check drawers, mind you I said empathy not sympathy! Just remmember back when you were a young man or woman and you family let you fail just so could see what it was like getting on your feet and out the door. I look at it just like that, or own government is acting like a parent to affraid to let it's children fall and do it on their own. For those of use not ashamed to use a hand up and make the best of a bad time we have what is called honer and dignity! Those that say "hay I am going to just suck that hand up dry" have what is called lack of respect for any one or any thing.
As for a solution there is no easy fix to any complex thing, however if it was up to myself and I knew I had atleast 10 or so good folks thier beside me I say lets all pick up our favorite boomstick make good plan that does not involve women children or the like being involved and take back at least our pride and dignity as Americans worst case we don't make the news and best case mabey a few others would get the point and stand up too.
Any way thats my thought for the night blessed be and may the goddess give you long life upon this earth!
MadMax

Brownsville, TN

#17 Mar 18, 2012
Sorrey wanted to add on more thing about the imagration stuff.
Plan:A We pay lots of good Americans troops every damn day to train, currently we have more and more comming home. The cost of traing would be very close to the cost of utilizing them to safe gaurd the border durring times of peace. Oh and god forbid I say it but last I checked walking acrose the Texas line with a small thermonuclear divice is alot less complicated then any other way of getting it here. So in my eyes every single person not legaly comming acrose that line is a threat and the use of deadly force should be considerd when our national security is concerned.
Oh it's alot cheaper to use your military force to gaurd your border then to use them in wars that don't gain or accomplish a cost effective life effective gaol.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#18 Mar 19, 2012
MadMax wrote:
Sorrey wanted to add on more thing about the imagration stuff.
Plan:A We pay lots of good Americans troops every damn day to train, currently we have more and more comming home. The cost of traing would be very close to the cost of utilizing them to safe gaurd the border durring times of peace. Oh and god forbid I say it but last I checked walking acrose the Texas line with a small thermonuclear divice is alot less complicated then any other way of getting it here. So in my eyes every single person not legaly comming acrose that line is a threat and the use of deadly force should be considerd when our national security is concerned.
Oh it's alot cheaper to use your military force to gaurd your border then to use them in wars that don't gain or accomplish a cost effective life effective gaol.
I tend to be in some agreement with you there. But here's what might deem some problem. There's alot of money flowing on that border, which in part is how we got to where we are today. People are greedy and money talks. It's been talking in my opinion for a long time. And it's not going to stop the 20M we have here already that are breeding like rabbits. I don't believe the border is as big an issue as Corporate America, and, Americans in general are for working them. We are comitting a bigger crime than they by working them rather than our own people. As for the drug trade, there again, if this country didn't have the greatest demand in the world for drugs, they couldn't sell them.

"We the people" continue to destroy ourselves. No one holds a gun to our heads to work them. No one holds a gun to our head to buy their drugs. No one holds a gun to the bank's heads to sell them property even when they are illegal. Govt. entities keep passing the buck on who holds responsibility for illegal statuses. Our nation's law enforcement would rather let them go than undergo the red tape it takes to hold and deport them, other than the ones who are getting their palms greased.

If anyone needs guarded in this country, it's businesses who hire them and sanctions should be slapped on everyone caught working illegals. But what they get is nothing. To have military border patrol is a waste of money because in time, everyone would be on the cartel's payroll and no true Americans would have a job.

This country needs to stop destroying itself. We need to learn to place blame where it lies and that is "we the people".
sickest

London, KY

#19 Mar 19, 2012
After many years of human interaction and observation I have come to the conclusion that the most difficult thing you can ask most humans to do is THINK,,, asked to think most will resist with every once of their being...

Women will never be equal to men until they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer gut,,, and still think they are sexy...

A good parent does not cripple its child by making it too dependent on the parent... Why shouldn't this apply to government as well???

There is only one enemy,,, the friendly people we pay our taxes to,,, the war-makers and nature destroyers... With our funding, they are killing this world right in front of our eyes...
Sicker

Somerset, KY

#20 Mar 19, 2012
America is a perfect example of greed, conceit, corruption, and selfishness. It has all the ingredients necessary to make any seasoned dictator feel right at home. there is no we the people any longer.The voices of the people are merely tolerated not heard.Anyone that thinks otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#21 Mar 19, 2012
"in public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK, but you better not use the word God in the process" That's a good policy because divisive, hate-mongering religions like Christianity have advocated death sentences for homosexuals. It's time to move on and join the 21st century.

"you can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer" Are you "pro-life" or not? Make up your mind.

"You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas" What's wrong with pornography and why should your religious display be put on PUBLIC property? What amazes me is that religious freaks will go nuts if a child sees a set of tits on TV, but many of them are fine with young kids watching violent movies.

"we can use a human fetus for medical research, but it is wrong to use an animal." Stem cell research involves a "blastocyst" or "embryo," not a fetus. Go learn what each terms means before commenting.
Oldie but goodie wrote:
I dont remember London topix discussing this subject, and I know its an old article.
What has America become? Your input without cursing and swearing would be valued.
Editor,
Has America become the land of special interest and home of the double standard?
Lets see: if we lie to the Congress, it’s a felony and if the Congress lies to us its just politics; if we dislike a black person, we’re racist and if a black person dislikes whites, its their 1st Amendment right; the government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and they do almost nothing for the victims; in public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK, but you better not use the word God in the process; you can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer; we don’t burn books in America, we now rewrite them; we got rid of communist and socialist threats by renaming them progressive; we are unable to close our border with Mexico, but have no problem protecting the 38th parallel in Korea; if you protest against President Obama’s policies you’re a terrorist, but if you burned an American flag or George Bush in effigy it was your 1st Amendment right.
You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas; we have eliminated all criminals in America, they are now called sick people; we can use a human fetus for medical research, but it is wrong to use an animal.
We take money from those who work hard for it and give it to those who don’t want to work; we all support the Constitution, but only when it supports our political ideology; we still have freedom of speech, but only if we are being politically correct; parenting has been replaced with Ritalin and video games; the land of opportunity is now the land of hand outs; the similarity between Hurricane Katrina and the gulf oil spill is that neither president did anything to help.
And how do we handle a major crisis today? The government appoints a committee to determine who’s at fault, then threatens them, passes a law, raises our taxes; tells us the problem is solved so they can get back to their reelection campaign.
What has happened to the land of the free and home of the brave?
- Ken Huber
Tawas City
Here is a picture of the original Letter to the Editor as it appeared in the Iosco County News Herald…
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/...
bite me again

Middlesboro, KY

#22 Mar 19, 2012
water dowser wrote:
<quoted text>No one is fighting freedom of religion except conservatives. You see freedom of religion is for all the different faiths, not just the practitioners of the most common faith. Conservatives are trying to force everyone to live according to THEIR interpretation of the Bible.
Give an example of liberals attacking freedom of speech.
Evolution? God is the master creator. The Bible stated creationism in terms we could understand. Just because God didn't discuss using evolution doesn't mean that he didn't use it.
shut up Jenny... stop using diffrent names like water...you chickenshit

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