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PROOF: Angels & Demons Cannot Breed With Humans

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Tempe, AZ

#1 Apr 1, 2013
Scripture proof: Angels and demons cannot procreate or breed with humans because they dont have a fleshly body. It is impossible! Ignorant people have believe the wrong interpretation of God's word.
CBN.com – A viewer writes:
I have questions regarding "the sons of God" and giants from Genesis 6. Some Bible teachers believe that angels took the form of flesh (actual incarnation) to engender offspring with women, thus "Giants" came into being (Nephilim). What do you believe?
This theological position from Genesis 6 is common -- that fallen angels had sex with humans to create a race of giants -- but I don't subscribe to it.
This is is what the Bible says about the Nephilim:
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.(Genesis 6:4, NASB)
A basic premise in the doctrine of man's earthly dominion is that God gave His delegated authority to human beings on this planet. And God made only man as a fleshly being with a soul. Demons, which most theologians believe are fallen angels, have a soul/spirit, but no body. Animals have a body and mind, but no eternal soul/spirit. Man is uniquely made in God's image as a triune being -- spirit, soul (mind, will, and emotions), and body.

God gave dominion to man on the earth to rule as His regent because man was made in His image as a triune being. So only a triune man, made out of the dust of the earth, can have dominion under God. Demons cannot take on flesh -- there is nowhere in the Bible that says that they can. Of course we know that angels, both heavenly and fallen, can appear in human form, but they remain spirit beings only.

Also, in Genesis chapter one, God says in verse 24, "...Let the earth produce living creatures according to their 'kinds'..." A fish can not produce with a bird. And a man cannot produce with an animal -- or a demon. All creatures on the earth produce only according to their 'kind'.

In the passage in question, we see that the Bible says:
"...'the sons of God' saw that the daughters of man were beautiful..."
The Hebrew for the term "sons of God" is ben elohim, which means literally "sons of God."
A key of biblical interpretation is to allow the Scripture to interpret itself. People fall into error when they try to make the Bible say something to fit their particular doctrinal position when the text does not say it. In this case, the text simply says 'sons of God', which is a designation for humans. There is nowhere in the Bible where demons are called 'sons', and especially not 'sons of God.'
There are three passages in Job that refer to the 'sons of God', that seem to indicate that these were godly angels, since mankind had not received access to God's presence before the resurrection of Christ, and Demons had been expelled from God's presence.:
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.(Job 1:6, NASB)
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD.(Job 2:1, NASB)
When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy…(Job 38:7, NASB)
Throughout the rest of the Bible, and particularly in the New Testament, when the term 'sons of God' is used it is referring to human beings.
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Tempe, AZ

#2 Apr 1, 2013
Pg 2 In the genealogy of Jesus, Luke writes in chapter 3:38,'...son of Seth, son of Adam, son of God.'
Jesus referred to human beings as 'sons of God.'
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.(Matt. 5:9, NASB)
Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.(Luke 20:36, NASB)
Paul also referred to humans as "sons of God":
For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.(Romans 8:14, NASB)
For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.(Romans 8:19, NASB)
For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.(Gal. 3:26, NASB)
In Gen. 6:3, God says, "My Spirit will not remain with 'mankind' forever, because they were corrupt." It says "mankind" -- not a mix of man and demon. In verse 4 it says the Nephilim were "...powerful men..." Again, not powerful demon-men.

And in verse 7, "...the Lord said,'I will wipe off the face of the earth: man, whom I created...'" Here we see an explicit reference to who and what God intended to bring judgement to -- man. God says nothing about demons or fallen angels here. That which God created, man, would be destroyed -- with the exception of righteous Noah.

God alone is the Creator. Demons and angels do not have the power to create, so they could not have re-created, or reproduced with human beings. If these were a separate race created by demons reproducing with men -- which would not be something God created -- then I believe God would have made it clear that the demon-men were being destroyed along with the regular men.
But God only says that He will destroy MAN who he created.

If the demons were reproducing offspring with humans then, why don't we see any other instance of this in the Bible -- and why aren't they doing it today? The answer, I believe, is that it simply isn't possible.

We need to be careful that we don't try to force the Bible to say what it doesn't actually say. This is how cults and false religions are started and grow. Instead, we must use proper biblical interpretation that lets the Bible say what it says, adding nothing and taking nothing away.

God is sovereign, and He set the parameters for reproduction in Genesis chapter one, and no one, and no thing can reproduce outside of His plan.
This should give us great comfort.
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Liza Jane

Somerset, KY

#3 Apr 1, 2013
AND YET THE BIBLE SAYS THEY TOOK ON HUMAN FORM AND MARRIED THE DAUGHTERS OF MAN.the flood destroyed their human bodies but it didn't their demonish ones,theirfore the demons are still with us today,their off spring being half human died in the flood.
bill

Dallas, TX

#5 Apr 1, 2013
Liza Jane wrote:
AND YET THE BIBLE SAYS THEY TOOK ON HUMAN FORM AND MARRIED THE DAUGHTERS OF MAN.the flood destroyed their human bodies but it didn't their demonish ones,theirfore the demons are still with us today,their off spring being half human died in the flood.
i want chapter verse and scripture for that.
you cannot seem to read and understood the proof the poster put above.
Jermiah

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Apr 1, 2013
Liza Jane wrote:
AND YET THE BIBLE SAYS THEY TOOK ON HUMAN FORM AND MARRIED THE DAUGHTERS OF MAN.the flood destroyed their human bodies but it didn't their demonish ones,theirfore the demons are still with us today,their off spring being half human died in the flood.
what you are saying is not in the king james version.
you need to stop listening to the mormons.
their teachings are not of god.
Thinker

Kuttawa, KY

#7 Apr 1, 2013
Jermiah wrote:
<quoted text>what you are saying is not in the king james version.
you need to stop listening to the mormons.
their teachings are not of god.
well well well....do YOU know all your bybull? Bet you dont....soooo your god is so great and all knowing that he had to have some earth flesh human KJ edit his great work for him???????

I guess the truth is.. humans edit humans....you are foolish to beleive this crap is from a "god", get a clue. It was from ignorant humans trying to find out why they were on earth and where they came from......

Does god cause eclipses? Nope you know "gods" dont...we understand now.....come on and tell me that a "god" causes eclipses......

does "god" cause babies, or does SEX? Ask a nun......see we know better

does "god" cause earthquakes? NOOOOOO....just study plate tecktonics......

your "god" has been proven useless.....sorry bout ur luck.
me again

Little Rock, AR

#8 Apr 1, 2013
Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
well well well....do YOU know all your bybull? Bet you dont....soooo your god is so great and all knowing that he had to have some earth flesh human KJ edit his great work for him???????
I guess the truth is.. humans edit humans....you are foolish to beleive this crap is from a "god", get a clue. It was from ignorant humans trying to find out why they were on earth and where they came from......
Does god cause eclipses? Nope you know "gods" dont...we understand now.....come on and tell me that a "god" causes eclipses......
does "god" cause babies, or does SEX? Ask a nun......see we know better
does "god" cause earthquakes? NOOOOOO....just study plate tecktonics......
your "god" has been proven useless.....sorry bout ur luck.
more non-scripture from a non-thinker.
you guys are on IGNORE
My real name is spam

Mesquite, NV

#9 Apr 1, 2013
Liza Jane wrote:
AND YET THE BIBLE SAYS THEY TOOK ON HUMAN FORM AND MARRIED THE DAUGHTERS OF MAN.the flood destroyed their human bodies but it didn't their demonish ones,theirfore the demons are still with us today,their off spring being half human died in the flood.
I think you read it the wrong way.
Anyone who is not saved is ruled by the devil, and the demon is what keeps them in sin.
Anyone who is saved is a follower of Christ, and has his spirit living inside of them to keep them in the good way.
There was no half human-demon-angel. It never existed.
It is impossible for a spirit to breed with flesh.

And the reason for the flood was that people worshipped false gods, and allowed the devil to rule and reign in them.
Their hearts had strayed too far from God.
But neither the spirits of demons or angels breeded with anything.
They cannot procreate. They are not flesh.
Me again

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Apr 1, 2013
Jermiah wrote:
<quoted text>what you are saying is not in the king james version.
you need to stop listening to the mormons.
their teachings are not of god.
I agree with you. They have these people of today that will just repeat what they hear people say that is in the Bible, and it is not in it. They should read it for themselves instead of just going about quoting all kinds of foul things about HIS word.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#11 Apr 1, 2013
Angels and demons are make-believe. You are suffering a delusion.
bite me again

Middlesboro, KY

#12 Apr 1, 2013
Anti-theist wrote:
Angels and demons are make-believe. You are suffering a delusion.
you are suffering too... take your medicine daily for your demented mind
real

Somerset, KY

#13 Apr 2, 2013
The book of Enoch describes a similar story, when two hundred angelic beings visited the daughters of men, thus creating giants or demigods...

Notice that verse four says that there were giants (nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that,,, when the sons of Elohim came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. The creation of nephilim, i.e. a bully or tyrant, came before the relationships between the sons of Elohim and the daughters of men. The nephilim existed prior to these unlawful relationships.

The study of the Hebrew bible, you would discover that, first of all, the creative act is attributed to a certain ELOHIM,,, a plural term that at the least should be translated as gods, and second, you would become aware of the why the Adam was created.

The term sons of God in Scripture does not, in any way, refer to angelic beings, rather denotes the special relationship of man to God - as His children... Like the Trinitarians who use the one and only verse, Matthew 28:19, to support their theory and formula to baptize a convert in the triune title of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, so are some using the one and only verse, Job 1:6 (Job 2:1 is identical) to support the theory that the term "sons of God" refers to angelic beings. Many people have misinterpreted the verse and concluded that the angelic beings one day (suddenly) came and stood before the THRONE of God in Heaven. It takes more than a casual reading to understand Job 1:6 (also Job 2:1). Confer Job 38:7. The event of Job 1:6 (and Job 2:1) actually speaks of the saints of God coming together to offer themselves before Yahweh.

But on the other hand if Angels can eat, drink and get raped by humans, sounds to me they have physical bodies when they want to have them. And if those bodies have mass (DNA) then that DNA could be transferred one way or another. Just a few notes perhaps to add to your post with this thought in mind, the more you read the more you learn.
The more you learn the more you realize what you don't know.
real

Somerset, KY

#14 Apr 2, 2013
I could be wrong..
hello

Houston, TX

#15 Apr 2, 2013
real wrote:
The book of Enoch describes a similar story, when two hundred angelic beings visited the daughters of men, thus creating giants or demigods...
Notice that verse four says that there were giants (nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that,,, when the sons of Elohim came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. The creation of nephilim, i.e. a bully or tyrant, came before the relationships between the sons of Elohim and the daughters of men. The nephilim existed prior to these unlawful relationships.
The study of the Hebrew bible, you would discover that, first of all, the creative act is attributed to a certain ELOHIM,,, a plural term that at the least should be translated as gods, and second, you would become aware of the why the Adam was created.
The term sons of God in Scripture does not, in any way, refer to angelic beings, rather denotes the special relationship of man to God - as His children... Like the Trinitarians who use the one and only verse, Matthew 28:19, to support their theory and formula to baptize a convert in the triune title of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, so are some using the one and only verse, Job 1:6 (Job 2:1 is identical) to support the theory that the term "sons of God" refers to angelic beings. Many people have misinterpreted the verse and concluded that the angelic beings one day (suddenly) came and stood before the THRONE of God in Heaven. It takes more than a casual reading to understand Job 1:6 (also Job 2:1). Confer Job 38:7. The event of Job 1:6 (and Job 2:1) actually speaks of the saints of God coming together to offer themselves before Yahweh.
But on the other hand if Angels can eat, drink and get raped by humans, sounds to me they have physical bodies when they want to have them. And if those bodies have mass (DNA) then that DNA could be transferred one way or another. Just a few notes perhaps to add to your post with this thought in mind, the more you read the more you learn.
The more you learn the more you realize what you don't know.
there is no book of enoch in the king james version of the bible.
hello

Houston, TX

#16 Apr 2, 2013
2 john 1:10 if there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him godspeed!
Brother Dan

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Apr 2, 2013
real wrote:
I could be wrong..
Yes you are wrong. But I have also been wrong about so many things in the past. But since I repented of my sins, I try to repay the wrongs that I committed.
So read carefully the following. And I pray that you understand the mystery and how it is revealed to you.
How do you respond to the Bible and the fact that it states that no one is to add or take away from it?

I am referring to Revelation 22:18-9 which states:

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book."

A brief review of some historical facts should clear up this issue. The Bible is a collection of sacred writings that were compiled into book format centuries after the death of the original writers. When the Apostle John wrote these verses, the Bible as we know it today had not been compiled yet. Therefore, his words could not possibly be applied to the entire collection of writings today known as the Bible. John was referring specifically to the Book of Revelation.

Additionally, even though Revelation is traditionally placed last in the Bible, most Biblical scholars do not believe that it was the last book to be written among the compiled records contained in the Bible. If your reasoning is true, then those Books would also have to be removed from the Bible and discarded as false.

Also, please note the very similar wording by Moses found in Deuteronomy 4:2:
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

If your interpretation of the Revelation verses were correct, then they would have to be applied here as well. In which case, the Old Testament after Deuteronomy and the entire New Testament would have to be discarded as false. So it means the whole book that the prophecy of the Holy Ghost knew WOULD be written, and it made a way.

Finally, I should say that the words of both Moses and John are true. Man should not take it upon himself to add to or diminish the word of God.

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Peter 1:21)

God has a plan for us and chooses men called Prophets to teach us his plan. Prophets teach the word of God as they are moved by the Holy Ghost. It is the same today as it was 2000 years ago, for God is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.(Hebrews 13:8)
bill

Dallas, TX

#19 Apr 2, 2013
Talking Donkeys wrote:
If donkeys talked, people walked on water, the dead were raised
And a Messiah was born by a virgin. Angels coming to impregnate fleshly women seems plausible. The 40 years of wandering by Moses, the Hebrews were sustained by MANNA, Angels food.
makes more sense than the universe banging together all by itself.
Holbrook

Murray, KY

#20 Apr 2, 2013
bill wrote:
<quoted text>makes more sense than the universe banging together all by itself.
I doubt much of anything makes sense to you.
real

Mount Vernon, KY

#21 Apr 2, 2013
hello wrote:
<quoted text>there is no book of enoch in the king james version of the bible.
And you are about as sharp as a basketball...

Since: Apr 10

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#22 Apr 2, 2013
Actually, we don't know how the big bang happened. Hopefully one day we will understand. It's far better to admit ignorance than make up a silly fairy tale to console yourself.
bill wrote:
<quoted text>makes more sense than the universe banging together all by itself.

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