How does Social Services work?
Regarding_judge

Somerset, KY

#41 Dec 3, 2008
"I read all you people post. You all dumbies. I know everything. Only people ever complain bad mommy & bad daddy..no can take care of babies...social worker come take baby away for good of baby...bad mommy & bad daddy complain & whine judge give baby back. This how system work you dumbies." "You all fools, you all lost you kids, you all crazy. SW's all perfect, system all good." "You all just bad parent"
Who else thinks that "judge" from Knoxville is a lunatic?????
Undecided

London, KY

#42 Dec 3, 2008
In some cases in may for people but not very many children, I schooled to be a Social Worker I always have wanted to be one, I finished my schooling and was told THAT ALITTLE ABUSE CAN BE HANDLED AS OPPOSED TO THE DAMAGE OF TAKING THE CHILD OUT OF THE HOME??? Needless to say that shattered my heart I have kids and as a mother I couldn't imagne telling someone (a child) that you have to deal with the abuse we can't do anything THIS WAS IN LAUREL COUNTY and they seem to wrapped up in taking the children from good people than from drug heads and abusers, so NO THEY DON'T ALWAYS WORK... But to each their own. I believe that the world could change if we start with our children. One person can make a difference thats why I wanted to be a Social Worker....
cherokee

Corbin, KY

#43 Dec 3, 2008
Regarding_judge wrote:
"I read all you people post. You all dumbies. I know everything. Only people ever complain bad mommy & bad daddy..no can take care of babies...social worker come take baby away for good of baby...bad mommy & bad daddy complain & whine judge give baby back. This how system work you dumbies." "You all fools, you all lost you kids, you all crazy. SW's all perfect, system all good." "You all just bad parent"
Who else thinks that "judge" from Knoxville is a lunatic?????
you are as dumb as sw system.System is no good. Low life workers.Take children adopt out make money. You talk about dumb damn are you ever.
DOUKNOW

Somerset, KY

#44 Dec 3, 2008
Undecided wrote:
In some cases in may for people but not very many children, I schooled to be a Social Worker I always have wanted to be one, I finished my schooling and was told THAT ALITTLE ABUSE CAN BE HANDLED AS OPPOSED TO THE DAMAGE OF TAKING THE CHILD OUT OF THE HOME??? Needless to say that shattered my heart I have kids and as a mother I couldn't imagne telling someone (a child) that you have to deal with the abuse we can't do anything THIS WAS IN LAUREL COUNTY and they seem to wrapped up in taking the children from good people than from drug heads and abusers, so NO THEY DON'T ALWAYS WORK... But to each their own. I believe that the world could change if we start with our children. One person can make a difference thats why I wanted to be a Social Worker....
Undecided...you seem like a genuine person. I think that there ARE some SW that have chosen that career because they genuinely want to make a difference in a kids life, then there are the "others". Children are all different, they all act & react differently, what may be damaging to one may not be as damaging to another. For this reason, I believe that the system needs an overhaul. There are so many kids suffering and they are helpless. Not every monster looks like a monster but is still a monster, sometimes I think appearance is deceiving. What "looks" good is not always good & vice versa what "looks" bad may not always be that.
Hind Sight

United States

#45 Dec 7, 2008
I know good cops and bad cops, real christians and fake ones, dedicated social workers,(good people); and some bad ones.

I can only speak for the good ones that I know. They give their hearts and lives to helping family's and the kids,(most of all); learn to change or to deal with parenting issues or child behavior problems.

I do not envy what the good workers must deal with. It doesn't pay enough to begin with. But the idea of making a difference in a familys live, or more directly; in childrens lives; is a reward beyond explanation with the use of mere words.

These selfless acts beyond the call of duty should be rewarded with praise, not the trash that is put forth,(usually by the guilty); which declares that the whole system is bad.

Try no system, and see how far these familys get without professional, loving care and help. Most know it all's don't know any thing. They are filled with resentment and lies.

Someday they'll die and the world will be a better place for it. Sound harsh? Let he or she who is without sin cast the first stone. And let the rest shut up about things they know nothing about.

The truth is that the system is under strain to contend with the mass amount of problematic cases. It's like drowning in other peoples trash. It's not something you can flush and just walk away from.
confused in Ky

London, KY

#46 Dec 8, 2008
I have two children of my own and two I am now raising that are in SS. I agree'd to care for the children... after all they are my family. Now, I'll tell ya SS does not work. If the mother just doesnt show up for sup visitation then guess what?, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be pulling these kids out in the wintery cold to "make up" her day about 3 times within the week...when she is the one who missed the visit! Why should the kids have to sit and wait for her not to come yet AGAIN! No, in my opinion SS doesnt work!
and another thing...I did every the "SS" told me to do with reguards to help for child care because my husband and I both work full time jobs (and not on any kind of goverment assistance) and because she is NEW and didnt know what she was doing ....WE are now REQUIRED to pay the state of KY back over 2200 dollars! I dont understand that....she is the one who messed up! As a (guardian) why should I be paying out my pocket, its not like we got money and spent it. Its not like it went through my hands at all...the EKCCC paid it directly to the Day Care..how is this my fault?...I'll tell ya, Its not my fault its the SS workers fault and all she can say in the whole matter is ...and yes, I am quoting here "sorry, I didnt know how to file correctly" grrrrrrr!
confused in Ky

London, KY

#47 Dec 8, 2008
oh yeah one more thing.....

the mother gets caught shop lifting and doing drugs all the time. I mean hard core drugs...like meth and herion (I think its how its spelled) but she doesnt spend a day in jail because she is supposed to be "working" for the local sherriff's office. I dont know if its true, but that's her claim! so anyhow.....she gets nothing done to her...alittle off topic I know, but I had to add that in there...

Not only does SS not really care so much....

lesson to learn;

rob wal-mart blind and not spend a day in jail as long as you wire yourself up and turn other people in! I think that even if you turn someone in....they should go to jail ....and so should YOU!
Hind Sight

United States

#48 Dec 8, 2008
confused in Ky wrote:
I have two children of my own and two I am now raising that are in SS. I agree'd to care for the children... after all they are my family. Now, I'll tell ya SS does not work. If the mother just doesnt show up for sup visitation then guess what?, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be pulling these kids out in the wintery cold to "make up" her day about 3 times within the week...when she is the one who missed the visit! Why should the kids have to sit and wait for her not to come yet AGAIN! No, in my opinion SS doesnt work!
and another thing...I did every the "SS" told me to do with reguards to help for child care because my husband and I both work full time jobs (and not on any kind of goverment assistance) and because she is NEW and didnt know what she was doing ....WE are now REQUIRED to pay the state of KY back over 2200 dollars! I dont understand that....she is the one who messed up! As a (guardian) why should I be paying out my pocket, its not like we got money and spent it. Its not like it went through my hands at all...the EKCCC paid it directly to the Day Care..how is this my fault?...I'll tell ya, Its not my fault its the SS workers fault and all she can say in the whole matter is ...and yes, I am quoting here "sorry, I didnt know how to file correctly" grrrrrrr!
Sounds very unfair and unfortunate, what you,ve been through. Like I said, there are good and bad people in every job description possible. If you got a new one(SW),and she, or he; messed up to the tune of 2000 grand or so, I'd be mad as he-- also. Hope you can appeal to frankfort for review and justice. God Bless.
kat26

Nuneaton, UK

#49 Feb 18, 2009
social services do not do their job.i am worried about my grand daughter, i have helped bring her up as my daughter can,t cope. and all she was interested in was boys and drink. she can,t be bothered to sort her child benefit out {the babys now 7 months old} the social services got involed when the police was called to her flat after she had been drinking and they were concerned about the state of her flat. i told her to come home where i was bringing the baby up as my daughter was still drinking. when i came home from work ,last monday my daughter had her friends in her room drinking and smoking while the baby was with her, i went mad told her she was discusting told her friends to go. next day while i was at work she took the baby and went up to manchester, when i phone her up someone else is always looking after the baby and my daughter laughs and thinks its one big joke. i have phoned social services on numourous accasions to get the baby back home with me so she can sort her self out. but was told they would get back to me. after a week i,m still waiting. what do i do now? can,t they do there job properly? can any one help!
concerned

London, KY

#50 Feb 18, 2009
I do not feel that social services works to help anyone! I know someone that lives in a complete mess. The roaches run in packs, and do not hide from the light as roaches normally do. Instead of silverware in the kitchen drawers there is dead roaches, dead mice, and mouse poop, the floors are covered in a mysterious sticky substance (carpet and tile) and there is food laying in plates and bowls that are covered with an inch of mold. The mom and dad abuse Oxy's and Meth, the kids go to school in clothes that stink and have stains, with their hair greasy and nappy from not being washed. Knats fly around the toilet, that have a thick film of brownish looking stuff around them from not being cleaned in ages. They have a full size basement full of trash, and the garage is full of trash from years ago. The parents would rather buy drugs instead of food and diapers. They receive a large amount of food stamps each month, but sell them for drugs. There is no food to speak of in the house, except maybe some cereal and milk, but the babies are the only ones that get the milk. They are so nasty that even their car has roaches! The kids are starving!!! Every time the kids come to my house I feed them There are four of them, and once they see food they swarm my kitchen begging for more! they will eat till they make them selves sick. These kids sleep in beds covered in pee and poop, with blankets that stink and bugs crawling all over them! The baby plays in the floor, eating cracker crumbs off the sticky carpet, with roaches crawling up it's arms!!! Need I keep going?
Needless to say, after 3 years under the "supervision", SS has not done a thing!!!!! They drug test the parents each time they take them to court, but the parents have found a solution to passing the drug tests...Easy to do if you have 2 weeks to plan for them! SS does not do drop in's on them, they set days and times to come over. If they do show up and the parents are high or they do not want to open the door, they haul the kids to the back of the house!!! Social services has tried to help them "clean up" they give them ultimatums,and each time, the family pulls up just over the passing line. But still the kids live in squalor!!!!!! So please tell me how this system could possibly be working? Then tell these kids why they have to live like they do!

Sorry for the ramble, but it really breaks my heart, and I can not afford to take even one of these kids in, or I would in a heart beat!

Since: Feb 09

London

#51 Feb 18, 2009
judge wrote:
<quoted text>Your still a fool because you cannot read.
I was just reading the post and have no dog in this fight, but Judge, you are either a child or an ingrate. Your postings are the most ignorant I have read on this forum. To the guy that started the thread. I haven't had any dealings with social services at all and no one in my family has. I would like to think that we had a better system then what is being said on here for our children. Good luck to you and I hope things work out for the best for you.
welfare worker

Madisonville, KY

#52 Feb 18, 2009
Intelligent girl wrote:
<quoted text>
I was just reading the post and have no dog in this fight, but Judge, you are either a child or an ingrate. Your postings are the most ignorant I have read on this forum. To the guy that started the thread. I haven't had any dealings with social services at all and no one in my family has. I would like to think that we had a better system then what is being said on here for our children. Good luck to you and I hope things work out for the best for you.
for someone who doesn't know anything about social services i don't think i'd be telling someone else anything about what i didn't have any knowledge concerning the subject matter at hand.

makes you look like a know it all who knows nothing but likes to hear their own banter.
fss worker

Madisonville, KY

#53 Feb 18, 2009
social workers in most states are working in thankless jobs that are over taxed, under paid, and held responsible for things that are often out of their hands.

the publics idea of how the system works is at best vague.

to the woman who had two children she fostered. i know better than that. you received at least $1200 monthly in benefits because any child in the foster system qualifies for that whether the foster parent is a relative or not. you probably also received kchip and ktap as well. so pretending like you got slighted for $2200.00 makes it sound like you were committing some type of major offense. i would think if they were your own relatives you wouldn't have asked for a penny but obviously blood isn't thicker than water for you, is it?

you should have stuck to doing manual labor instead of trying to live off the welfare of two children.
boring

Madisonville, KY

#54 Feb 18, 2009
more drama queens pretending they know how another does his/her job
lost trust

London, KY

#55 Feb 19, 2009
On different occations I was ask by the social service if I could take in two of my little family members, with out a second thought we did. We did not ask for or did we want the governments money, we managed, with two boys of our own.we bought their clothes and one needed formula(we paid for, not cheep).They also ask us if we cared to keep a little girl that was not family but was the daughter of one of my brothers friends, and again we accepted, asking for no help. The ages of these children were 1mo. 6yrs. 8yrs. The school where the two went to said they could see such an improvement in their actions and in their lessons, they then returned them back to their parents. I didn't see any problem, right? But then a short time after, I had another family member that just gave birth and the baby was going to be taken away. but by the time my family could pick up the phone and call they already put the baby in state care. my family told them about me, they said we was not qualified. but what the stupidest thing was is we were good enough to drive to another county,pick the baby up bring it home and supervise the visitation(on our expense)but was not good enough to get to keep it.Now I see a problem with our system, wouldn't you?
bump

Dickson, TN

#56 Feb 19, 2009
guess what wrote:
I know a child that was taken adopted out.He got the ideal at school if you told social services you was beaten and a lot more lies.They would take you and buy you all kinds of stuff.He had never had bruise and no Dr.records. If you dont admit you did this then they will take the child from you. Anyway he had good grades when he was at home.They adopted him to someone that had drawed wefare for over a year on child she did not have. After she got him when he was seven she stoled from daycare and church were she was tresury over money and worked at day care. She left london quick when she was caught for stealing. And is on run from one county to another.The child at fourteen called and said he lied and wanted to come back home but it was to late.He is now on drugs dropted out of school.Which would never had happen if they had not taken him.
Another child around same age was taken around same time the step father admitted to beaten hm him in locking him in the closet. They sent that child back home to the abuse.He is now a messed up kid.
I know several foster parents that are mean to the kids. Social Services tells them its ok to spank them are use belt.The thing is when the parents have them they take the childs word as truth but when foster parents have them they dont take the childs word.
They have workers not fit to be around children.For distance when the child was taken they had a male worker that picked kids up that tuned out to be a child molester.
//
They aren't much.
ky guy

Lexington, KY

#57 Feb 19, 2009
i called them over bruises on my lil girl she said her step daddy whipped her they didnt do nething i called to check they said they dont think theyd been out there yet and they couldnt tell me if they found anything or not when they did go, if they had shown up my ex would have let me know she woulda ran her mouth like normal but nothin was ever said or done, screw social services, not to mention u cant get hold of them on weekend when u get your kid and they have a cpl days dried snot on their face and its red and raw with a gallon of fresh snot comin out and the cops wont do anything even when they r sitting their lookin at it its a civil matter so they r sayin SCREW U so i say SCREW THEM!!!!!!!!

Since: Feb 09

London

#58 Feb 19, 2009
welfare worker wrote:
<quoted text>
for someone who doesn't know anything about social services i don't think i'd be telling someone else anything about what i didn't have any knowledge concerning the subject matter at hand.
makes you look like a know it all who knows nothing but likes to hear their own banter.
If you would go back and read my post, I didn't give any advice, I said that I would like to think that they worked, didn't say I knew that they did. As far as the comment about that one guy, if you read his posts you would have to agree with me. He makes no sense. I also just wished the original poster luck, again no advice. Sorry you felt the way you did about my post, can't please everybody though.
hotpepper10

London, KY

#59 Feb 21, 2009
If you've never worked for social services and do not know anything about how the "system" works, then it would probably be wise to find out a little more about it before you go around saying "Social Workers don't do anything."
grow up

Murray, KY

#60 Feb 21, 2009
lost trust wrote:
On different occations I was ask by the social service if I could take in two of my little family members, with out a second thought we did. We did not ask for or did we want the governments money, we managed, with two boys of our own.we bought their clothes and one needed formula(we paid for, not cheep).They also ask us if we cared to keep a little girl that was not family but was the daughter of one of my brothers friends, and again we accepted, asking for no help. The ages of these children were 1mo. 6yrs. 8yrs. The school where the two went to said they could see such an improvement in their actions and in their lessons, they then returned them back to their parents. I didn't see any problem, right? But then a short time after, I had another family member that just gave birth and the baby was going to be taken away. but by the time my family could pick up the phone and call they already put the baby in state care. my family told them about me, they said we was not qualified. but what the stupidest thing was is we were good enough to drive to another county,pick the baby up bring it home and supervise the visitation(on our expense)but was not good enough to get to keep it.Now I see a problem with our system, wouldn't you?
no i don't because the social worker follows guidelines just line anyone else in a job. if you didn't meet the criteria then don't blame them because they do not make the policy and the judge makes the final determination of whether a child is removed or not from the family and whether or not it is returned to the same guardians.

by law the children have to be returned to their families.

you sound like the typical christian back biter. if what you did was only for you benefit and your needs then you definetly were not fit to be raising those children.

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