Casey Anthony~Guilty or Not Guilty
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#698 Jun 29, 2011
Taste of dixie wrote:
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Was quoting actual law. So you would have to ask the Florida Supreme court as to what they consider dependency.
So, there's still this possibility maybe. But I'm sure we both know, this isn't going anywhere.

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#699 Jun 29, 2011
Sarah Poutin wrote:
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What is the difference between Murder 2 and Aggravated Manslaughter, if you know?
From what I'm gathering, manslaughter is the charge given when the individual died without harmful intent or when the defendant did not know his/her actions would result in the death of someone. I guess this just is the state's way of tying the possible accidental death of Caylee. 2nd degree murder does not involve premeditation.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#700 Jun 29, 2011
Taste of dixie wrote:
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From what I'm gathering, manslaughter is the charge given when the individual died without harmful intent or when the defendant did not know his/her actions would result in the death of someone. I guess this just is the state's way of tying the possible accidental death of Caylee. 2nd degree murder does not involve premeditation.
Awesome reply. Good information.

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#701 Jun 29, 2011
I feel So Sorry for George. He wanted to kill himself so he could be with Caylee. That man is not guilty of anything. I don't believe he had an affair either. He is married to a self centered woman who is cold and he needed someone to talk to. ANYONE to comfort him. I remember seeing him and Cindy on Larry King and Cindy was spouting off all kinds of nonsense about rotten pizza in the trunk and forcing George to go along with her. He couldn't even look Larry in the eye because he knew she was lying and making him lie too. The man was ashamed of her. When this is all over I hope he leaves her and moves away from orlando. That will be the only way he'll ever have a chance at a normal life.

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#702 Jun 29, 2011
SpeakUp wrote:
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So, there's still this possibility maybe. But I'm sure we both know, this isn't going anywhere.
I guess it is a possibly if the DA's office didn't think it was complete BS.

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#703 Jun 29, 2011
Taste of dixie wrote:
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I guess it is a possibly if the DA's office didn't think it was complete BS.
Typo: possibility

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#704 Jun 29, 2011
Taste of dixie wrote:
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SOL sexual abuse Florida
7 years after the age of majority (any time before 25th birthday), 4 years after you leave the dependency of the abuser (even if you are older than 25), or 4 years from the time of your discovery of the injury and the casual relationship between the injury and the abuse.
Prosecution for sexual Abuse has a SOL of 4 years. The exception is made for DNA analysis which allows an additional year from discovery. I don't think lee or George did anything to KC. Just another one of her lies. Simple as that.
Those laws are for a Civil lawsuit..

Here is what it says for a Criminal Case

For criminal cases, a prosecutor may file a charge of aggravated rape at any time, regardless of the age of the victim and with no time limitation (an aggravated rape is generally a rape that involves a weapon, more than one person, or seriously injures the victim).

Prosecution for sexual assault or abuse has a statute of limitations of four years. However, there is an exception made for DNA analysis, which allows for the prosecution of a rapist anytime within one year of the discovery of DNA evidence, even if it is discovered after the ordinary statute of limitations period ran out.

In regards to child molestation specifically, there have recently been many changes to the statute of limitations nationwide. Indeed, eleven states have completely removed the limitations for child-sex crimes in the past 10 years. But after the Supreme court ruled that retroactively changing the statute of limitations (in order to prosecute crimes from long ago) was unconstitutional, many states were forced to scrap plans to do just that (Florida was one such state). The current law only allows four years from the date of the incident, but the law is likely to change soon, as there are many bills on the floor (as of 2006) to extend it to 10 years.

What's more, Florida has an extremely large number of complicated exceptions to it's limitation rules, so you should talk to an attorney familiar with Florida law for the most up to date information..

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#705 Jun 29, 2011
Gawky tortoise, you are right about those being the criteria for civil charges. I was really trying to get across that there is a SOL which we both have stated that it is four years in criminal cases with the exception of the DNA analysis giving an additional year.

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Since: Jun 11

Gunchester, KY

#706 Jun 29, 2011
Dr. Karioth sounds like a self righteous, bumbling, idiot. Anyone that can try to justify Casey's coldhearted actions after the fact must be getting paid big bucks by someone or trying to take 5 minutes of fame.
The Real Deal

Campbellsville, KY

#707 Jun 29, 2011
Sarah Poutin wrote:
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What is the difference between Murder 2 and Aggravated Manslaughter, if you know?
10 years instead of 20.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#708 Jun 29, 2011
This continues to be interesting. I think the father's suicide note stating that he in fact had "unanswered questions" may have pentrated the Jury more. In my mind, if he thought for a second she was innocent, I doubt he'd taken it that far.
Bringing up the phone call between Kronk and his son I believe is another stunt to go for reasonable doubt (that Kronk may have moved the body). If Baez has done one thing good, he's done a fabulous job with inferences. It only takes one to hang the Jury or convince them it isn't 1st Degree murder. His downfall has been placing burden of proof on himself.
This motion to dismiss is interesting and moreso because Casey was left alone to make that decision (which of course wasn't difficult).
This girl needs to be locked away to where she can never harm another child or perosn. Her family's life will never be the same and 9 chances of 10, her parents will wind up divorced after this and her brother will alienate himself.

What say you guys?

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#709 Jun 29, 2011
SpeakUp wrote:
This continues to be interesting. I think the father's suicide note stating that he in fact had "unanswered questions" may have pentrated the Jury more. In my mind, if he thought for a second she was innocent, I doubt he'd taken it that far.
Bringing up the phone call between Kronk and his son I believe is another stunt to go for reasonable doubt (that Kronk may have moved the body). If Baez has done one thing good, he's done a fabulous job with inferences. It only takes one to hang the Jury or convince them it isn't 1st Degree murder. His downfall has been placing burden of proof on himself.
This motion to dismiss is interesting and moreso because Casey was left alone to make that decision (which of course wasn't difficult).
This girl needs to be locked away to where she can never harm another child or perosn. Her family's life will never be the same and 9 chances of 10, her parents will wind up divorced after this and her brother will alienate himself.
What say you guys?
I would be happy if they locked her away until she reaches menopause. Her family is destroyed. Even if they were dysfunctional, there is still no excuse for murder. Her mother is controlling, and her brother and dad are wimps. My dad was a complete a$$hole. He never let me forget that he didn't want kids and always told me I was a failure. I'm over it and the bastard is dead. I ain't cried one tear. Casey basically ran the show and was just as controlling as her mother. That's way her and Cindy came to blows. They are too much alike.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#710 Jun 29, 2011
Taste of dixie wrote:
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I would be happy if they locked her away until she reaches menopause. Her family is destroyed. Even if they were dysfunctional, there is still no excuse for murder. Her mother is controlling, and her brother and dad are wimps. My dad was a complete a$$hole. He never let me forget that he didn't want kids and always told me I was a failure. I'm over it and the bastard is dead. I ain't cried one tear. Casey basically ran the show and was just as controlling as her mother. That's way her and Cindy came to blows. They are too much alike.
We clearly see that Casey and Cindy are domineering people. But actually I believe we've only seen the emotional side of George. What we see isn't always what we get. Here's one thing I've seen. I have known and do know both some detective's wives, and, wives of police officers and the majority, in my personal experience and opinion, are considerably arrogant. I'm not saying all are that way, but in my small world, yes they are. Inasmuch as my heart goes on in this situation for sure, we must not lose sight this man was a homicide detective/police officer for decades and I don't believe he attained that by whimping. This type of thing could bring Goliath to his knees. Personally, I think Casey acquired it double fold.

dixie, sorry about your Dad being that way. I can understand your position. Parents, at least some irresponsible ones, have no clue as to their inflicted lifelong mental damage to their children. There's no child on this earth that doesn't need to be loved. It's a God given natural instinct. That's one thing that utterly breaks my heart. As difficult as it is, we have to forgive because if we don't, the torment only reverts to ourselves as odd as it is. I went to a seminar once given by the woman that the movie "Dead Man Walking" (I believe that was the name of it) was made for. She and her boyfriend/fiance' were locked in a trunk, after she was repeatedly rap-d, her fiance' died. They caught the men who did it and she said she spent half her life hating them. She said it wasn't until she learned forgiveness that she was able to move on with her life.
curious

Dyer, TN

#711 Jun 29, 2011
Sarah Poutin wrote:
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What is the difference between Murder 2 and Aggravated Manslaughter, if you know?
Hi Sarah! omg speakshit is obessive with sociopath killer...she is in love with her, did u know blond lives in florida that talked to her all time...it sounded fishy aint it..ewwwwwww...anthony lives in florida as same dumb blon lived...she is weird and talkin too much, she should shut up like speakshit did to her but why blon is interested in speakshits brain and posts so they are so jealous over your brillant mind and beauty...(((((((smoochs))))))) ))) LOL

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#712 Jun 29, 2011
Really don't know any LE. Most people I know are healthcare providers. We tend to group together. I am not qualified to stereotype a certain profession but I guess they probably do have certain personality traits. I don't give two sh$$s about my father. I was there when he was dying. I thought it was the best thing that could have happened to me and my mom. Hope he's in hell. Ya, I'm a little jaded.
The defense is supposed to wrap up tomorrow. There's a woman who is claiming that her son is Caylee's dad.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#713 Jun 29, 2011
Taste of dixie wrote:
Really don't know any LE. Most people I know are healthcare providers. We tend to group together. I am not qualified to stereotype a certain profession but I guess they probably do have certain personality traits. I don't give two sh$$s about my father. I was there when he was dying. I thought it was the best thing that could have happened to me and my mom. Hope he's in hell. Ya, I'm a little jaded.
The defense is supposed to wrap up tomorrow. There's a woman who is claiming that her son is Caylee's dad.
OK as long as you have peace of mind. That's most important. Understand your view.

I just happen to know quite a few due to the line of work I'm in, not that I'm in their specific field.

OH MY GOSH...I didn't see or hear that one! Tell me, Where did she pop up from? And you in healthcare, is there anyway that can be legally proven if that be the case?

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#714 Jun 29, 2011
SpeakUp wrote:
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OK as long as you have peace of mind. That's most important. Understand your view.
I just happen to know quite a few due to the line of work I'm in, not that I'm in their specific field.
OH MY GOSH...I didn't see or hear that one! Tell me, Where did she pop up from? And you in healthcare, is there anyway that can be legally proven if that be the case?
Mitochondrial DNA from the woman claiming to be the grandmother.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#715 Jun 29, 2011
Taste of dixie wrote:
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Mitochondrial DNA from the woman claiming to be the grandmother.
Awesome!! Awesome!! Gosh that's right. Mitochondrial traces maternally doesn't it with real accuracy. I'm assuming this is a witness of Defense?
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#716 Jun 29, 2011
Sorry if I sound stupid here, but is the mitochondrial DNA tested against/from the nuclear DNA or is mitochondrial extracted from the nuclear?(you can tell I'm not in the healthcare industry. ha)

Gosh, this may answer my long term question!

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#717 Jun 29, 2011
SpeakUp wrote:
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Awesome!! Awesome!! Gosh that's right. Mitochondrial traces maternally doesn't it with real accuracy. I'm assuming this is a witness of Defense?
No clue if she's a witness.

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