Health care ruled Constitutional, Republicans scream Victory

[SpeakUp]

American wrote:

The Afforable Health Care Act's individual mandate was first proposed by The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. Romney adopted the idea and got it passed as governor of Mass. Its good to shift responsibility for health care to individual citizens not the government. Its good legislation and will help citizens and the government.Obama has really accomplished a good thing for this country.

I'm in complete agreement with you. Obama cares about people, not political agenda. If he cared about political agenda, he wouldn't have touch half the issues he has same as all other prior administrations. Obama took Leadership for the people and he's done a phenomimal job of that. It's alway made me sick at my stomach to see a mother sit and cry because she can't afford insurance to be able to take her child to the hospital for extended care. Many families over time have lost their homes and everything they've ever worked for treating their child to what they have to have to survive. This should NEVER happen to people. I know I would not only give up everything material I have, I'd give my life for my children and grandchildren literally. I think all good parents feel that way and just to think, some have had to lose everything they've ever owned just to get medical treatment for their child so that child can live a little while longer.

Thank you Obama for caring about the average household. It's never been right when a multi million dollar exective can afford $42,000/yr. health plans while this exampled Mother above has had to spend everything, and, lost everything...and eventually, her child. Obama is a GREAT President, a GREAT Leader and we want to keep him!

[The Real Just Me]

reality_review wrote:

Obama will probably repeal it anyway because it now imposes a new tax. We all know he is a man of his word.

LMAO.

White House claims ObamaCare fine a 'penalty,' despite court calling it a 'tax'

But in a case of biting the hand that feeds, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Friday the fine is still just a "penalty."

Calling it a "tax" causes obvious political problems for the White House. Obama fought that label vigorously when selling the bill in 2009.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.AKA Always Progressive spin.

[SpeakUp]

Then I guess Romney's "raising tax" in Mass., created an almost 100% of Mass being covered with health insurance.

Romney's statement in Mass. at the time, concerning this "tax" "penalty" "peanut butter" was "it encourages free loaders to take responsibility for themselves". Now isn't that pleasant?

Romney's Mass plan is identical to the National Plan of Obama's. Subsequently, the ONLY thing that could happen would be if Romney gets in and appeals "Obamacare", he'd enact his own identical plan and call it "Romneycare". Or, history could be respectful and call it "Obamneycare". lmao

Grasping at straws are what some of you are good at!

[The Real Just Me]

SpeakUp wrote:

Then I guess Romney's "raising tax" in Mass., created an almost 100% of Mass being covered with health insurance.
Romney's statement in Mass. at the time, concerning this "tax" "penalty" "peanut butter" was "it encourages free loaders to take responsibility for themselves". Now isn't that pleasant?
Romney's Mass plan is identical to the National Plan of Obama's. Subsequently, the ONLY thing that could happen would be if Romney gets in and appeals "Obamacare", he'd enact his own identical plan and call it "Romneycare". Or, history could be respectful and call it "Obamneycare". lmao
Grasping at straws are what some of you are good at!

The states can do what it wants.The law will be repealed like 60% of Americans want.

[FYI]

The GOP is falling apart as we speak they are grasping for straws........weak

[SpeakUp]

The Real Just Me wrote:

<quoted text>The states can do what it wants.The law will be repealed like 60% of Americans want.

You're splitting hairs again.

The States, in this case, will develope their own options. This law is no different than the Mass. one. If it worked for Mass., then why on earth would you be against it, more particularly since your candidate clearly stated "the tax/penalty will encourage free loaders to be responsible for themselves".

Your position is, it's none of the Federal's business. Well, I contend that it indeed more than is. Everytime any person or state needs a handout, where do they go to? The government, that's what they do.

Where do you think the Black Lung checks, received by your Miners that succumb to Pneumoconiosis (a debilitating & often fatal disease caused by breathing coal dust) come from?

It's a sad day when political agenda becomes a more important factor than helping save lives, most particularly when you're splitting hairs to do it.

[Nuggin]

The Real Just Me wrote:

<quoted text>The states can do what it wants.The law will be repealed like 60% of Americans want.

I'm willing to bet that 90% of those "60%" have NO F'ING IDEA why they "oppose" this law.

If you cornered them and asked them, they'd tell you that the oppose it because...

And then they would say something that either the law doesn't do or demand that they be given something that this law provides.

This is exactly like the Tea Party Congressman who complained about not being given the very same health coverage he campaigned against.

[SpeakUp]

FYI wrote:

The GOP is falling apart as we speak they are grasping for straws........weak

The letter that Obama framed he received from a taxpayer, a multiple sclerosis victim who now can get the help she needs, is a positive enough for me. Every life is important no matter who or what we are. Because one life could be our own, our children, our parents or grandchildrens. This is how I view life. No matter my own circumstance, I always try to put the shoe on the other foot. It'll be the right thing to do everytime.

You'll also note that reality_review has gone on a sabatical. Their committee must have called an emergency meeting since THEIR man approved OUR law!

Isn't it amazing they broke their necks and pocketbooks getting Brown in and he turned around and votes Democratic most of the time. They get Romney for a candidate to passed the SAME healthcare law in Mass and stated "the tax/penalty will encourage free loaders to take resonsibility for themselves" and their Conservtive leader in the Supreme Court cast the deciding vote on OUR healthcare law! You gotta love it FYI. You gotta love it! I keep wanting to reference back to the Civil War when they starved themselves to death, their loyalists stole their own food, Richmond got dog drunk on the whiskey they poured out to keep the Unions from getting it, and, they blew themselves up with amunition while Grant sat back and watched it all happen.

Would you think some people would learn? Our Constitutional learned President knew going in that it wouldn't get past the Commerce clause, but he did know it would get past the Federal tax law, knowing all along it was a penalty that will be calculated on an income tax return the same was other penalties clearly sitting in the tax system as we speak, such as early withdrawals from qualified plans, excess contributions, etc. Frankly, Reagan initiating taxation on S.S. was not only a penalty, it's double taxation. Go figger!

Damn those loopholes, right! lol Corporate America and the wealthy have used loopholes for years, but the difference is, theirs never help anyone. Obama's will help everyone. Take for instance Romney stashing his cash in the Caymans and all Conservatives can come up with is "it's legal isn't it"?

Well, the healthcare law is now LEGAL....isn't it?

[reality_review]

SpeakUp wrote:

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My Constitutional WHAT? lol
Your racist remark is unacceptable.

It's no more unacceptable than negro, riff raft and sea baggage, all words you approve. You lost the use of the race card when you used those terms to describe other people of color.

[reality_review]

SpeakUp wrote:

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My Constitutional WHAT? lol
Your racist remark is unacceptable.

It's no more unacceptable than riff raft, sea baggage and negro--all terms you have used/approved to describe people of color.

[Nuggin]

reality_review wrote:

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It's no more unacceptable than negro, riff raft and sea baggage, all words you approve. You lost the use of the race card when you used those terms to describe other people of color.

How is "riff raff" racist?

[SATAN_64]

SpeakUp wrote:

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My Constitutional WHAT? lol
Your racist remark is unacceptable.
This is what makes Obama smarter than you and ole' blue, not that something like that wouldn't take beyond an 8th grader, but here's the deal. Do you actually think Obama didn't know what he had going in? Are you that stupid? lol He knew all along the tax law thing would make it happen! You just didn't get up before daylight and again have exemplified your party! Obama was 100% confident throughout. Strength in Leadership is what you might want to call it, huh? Fooling your asses might be a secondary thought! lmao
Roberts felt sorry? No, what Roberts did was follow the rule of law versus political agenda like Congress does. Roberts has also portrayed his strengths in standing up for what was right, looking you perverts in the face as if to say "kiss off dudes, you're stupid".
Why is it necessary that we have to continue making pure asses out of you people? Tell me. Do you not ever learn anything? You defeated your own self in the Civil War, you defeated yourself this time, and, you will again by November 2012 because we...huh, save the best for last. Stick around rookie, our sleeves are locked and loaded!

Do you realize, How stupid you appear writing this post?

Who kicked "who`s" ass in the War of Northern aggression?

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This coming from a "Southern slave owning" Democrat?

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[SATAN_64]

SpeakUp wrote:

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The letter that Obama framed he received from a taxpayer, a multiple sclerosis victim who now can get the help she needs, is a positive enough for me. Every life is important no matter who or what we are. Because one life could be our own, our children, our parents or grandchildrens. This is how I view life. No matter my own circumstance, I always try to put the shoe on the other foot. It'll be the right thing to do everytime.
You'll also note that reality_review has gone on a sabatical. Their committee must have called an emergency meeting since THEIR man approved OUR law!
Isn't it amazing they broke their necks and pocketbooks getting Brown in and he turned around and votes Democratic most of the time. They get Romney for a candidate to passed the SAME healthcare law in Mass and stated "the tax/penalty will encourage free loaders to take resonsibility for themselves" and their Conservtive leader in the Supreme Court cast the deciding vote on OUR healthcare law! You gotta love it FYI. You gotta love it! I keep wanting to reference back to the Civil War when they starved themselves to death, their loyalists stole their own food, Richmond got dog drunk on the whiskey they poured out to keep the Unions from getting it, and, they blew themselves up with amunition while Grant sat back and watched it all happen.
Would you think some people would learn? Our Constitutional learned President knew going in that it wouldn't get past the Commerce clause, but he did know it would get past the Federal tax law, knowing all along it was a penalty that will be calculated on an income tax return the same was other penalties clearly sitting in the tax system as we speak, such as early withdrawals from qualified plans, excess contributions, etc. Frankly, Reagan initiating taxation on S.S. was not only a penalty, it's double taxation. Go figger!
Damn those loopholes, right! lol Corporate America and the wealthy have used loopholes for years, but the difference is, theirs never help anyone. Obama's will help everyone. Take for instance Romney stashing his cash in the Caymans and all Conservatives can come up with is "it's legal isn't it"?
Well, the healthcare law is now LEGAL....isn't it?

Ok........ That is why Dems hate big money and corporation so much. I see the light.........

Big Republican money, and corporations is what cost you Dems the Civil War.

Can`t have all them Big money corporations out there, because our plans of going one step further, Lol!

Why just have Negro slaves like we did from the roots of our beginning, when we can take over the country and make slaves of every last living person on this continent.

You are beyond a doubt the most illiterate human being on Topix.

[SpeakUp]

SATAN_64 wrote:

<quoted text>Ok........ That is why Dems hate big money and corporation so much. I see the light.........
Big Republican money, and corporations is what cost you Dems the Civil War.
Can`t have all them Big money corporations out there, because our plans of going one step further, Lol!
Why just have Negro slaves like we did from the roots of our beginning, when we can take over the country and make slaves of every last living person on this continent.
You are beyond a doubt the most illiterate human being on Topix.

Well, well, well, who do we have here who has suddenly appeared under his REAL name?

Southerners lost the War regarding of political affiliation. Further, the North had you so overwhelmed, it was beyond logic. For example, did the South have the telegraph? NOPE. But Lincoln did and he communicated with his Generals through these means. I assume yours had to be through echo chambers in the mountains?

Plans? As I see it, the wealthy hasn't had a plan in 12 yrs. or there would be jobs now wouldn't there be? Russia is currently teaming up with your favorite corporation...China, so I suggest that you suggest to your political friends that their asses aren't going to be worth a grain of salt when your favorite place to do business takes over our country...compliments of Corporate America. You'll probably be even dreaming of being promoted to slave.

Now, back to your own life which I suggest you clean up before coming on here and telling the rest of us what to do. Your life has been a mess....hasn't it? I believe so. Wait a minute. I bet by now, you have another wife and a couple more kids to dessert.

[SpeakUp]

reality_review wrote:

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It's no more unacceptable than negro, riff raft and sea baggage, all words you approve. You lost the use of the race card when you used those terms to describe other people of color.

I'm sure you'd be happy to check your well-kept library of my posts you're so obsessed with and prove to us all on here where I called anyone the N word you're speaking of. I did refer to rift-raft and sea baggage and I remain sticking to that comment.

Is there anything else? How's that Healthcare Law YOUR party approved of werkin' fer ya? I bet you went to bed, beat your pillow to death while cryin' "say it ain't so...say it ain't so"! You defeated YOURSELF again. I love it when that happens!

[SpeakUp]

Nuggin wrote:

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How is "riff raff" racist?

Nuggin', that was one of the times back when she was suckin' after ole' blue while he was protecting the fact that in the Florida waters, illegals came through that they approve of. You see, it depends on which side of the coast illegals come through on and what pedigree they are. She's always suckin' on someone in her party. But ole' blue is her Leader. Trouble is, ole' blue has gone into solitary confinement these days because he simply could not believe his ears when his OWN party broke his camel's back! I tried to warn the genius over and over, just as I told them in the onset that Romney (their LAST choice for candidate) would be their man. As I stated before, it takes some people longer than others to learn.

Fact is, right now, Romney would love to appeal a law that is a mirror image of his own law in Mass. just so he can turn around and make the Federal Law his law so he can go down in history taking credit for what Obama struggled with.

Work very hard this election please. Obama 2012. Let's show the Romney campaign that he cannot win based upon all his money that he cheated our nation of, such as collecting personal dividends off loan monies he had no intention of paying back. But it was legal. His offshore accounts to avoid U.S. income tax is also legal. Obama's healthcare bill....legal AND huh huh, priceless!

[SATAN_64]

SpeakUp wrote:

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Well, well, well, who do we have here who has suddenly appeared under his REAL name?
Southerners lost the War regarding of political affiliation. Further, the North had you so overwhelmed, it was beyond logic. For example, did the South have the telegraph? NOPE. But Lincoln did and he communicated with his Generals through these means. I assume yours had to be through echo chambers in the mountains?
Plans? As I see it, the wealthy hasn't had a plan in 12 yrs. or there would be jobs now wouldn't there be? Russia is currently teaming up with your favorite corporation...China, so I suggest that you suggest to your political friends that their asses aren't going to be worth a grain of salt when your favorite place to do business takes over our country...compliments of Corporate America. You'll probably be even dreaming of being promoted to slave.
Now, back to your own life which I suggest you clean up before coming on here and telling the rest of us what to do. Your life has been a mess....hasn't it? I believe so. Wait a minute. I bet by now, you have another wife and a couple more kids to dessert.

Ha Ha! I`ve had much bigger fish to fry than a small blue gill like you.

I just happen to read your asinine and idiotic post, and thought i`d call you on it. You really should read more history and not depend on Huffpo and Media Matters for your facts.

You should be careful, there might, and I say might be someone actually believe the drivel you post. We would hate to have TWO town idiots, there is not really a call for the one we have.

[reality_review]

Nuggin wrote:

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How is "riff raff" racist?

She said something in regard to sending the rift raft (unsavory or lowest class) in Chicago (illegal aliens) to London. She called refuges from Cuba, Haiti and Columbia sea baggage and she was okay that a friend of hers said he owned 2 negroes.

[reality_review]

Nuggin wrote:

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How is "riff raff" racist?

When you use the word to refer to illegal Mexicans as she did.

[HelpMe Gov]

SpeakUp wrote:

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My Constitutional WHAT? lol
Your racist remark is unacceptable.
This is what makes Obama smarter than you and ole' blue, not that something like that wouldn't take beyond an 8th grader, but here's the deal. Do you actually think Obama didn't know what he had going in? Are you that stupid? lol He knew all along the tax law thing would make it happen! You just didn't get up before daylight and again have exemplified your party! Obama was 100% confident throughout. Strength in Leadership is what you might want to call it, huh? Fooling your asses might be a secondary thought! lmao
Roberts felt sorry? No, what Roberts did was follow the rule of law versus political agenda like Congress does. Roberts has also portrayed his strengths in standing up for what was right, looking you perverts in the face as if to say "kiss off dudes, you're stupid".
Why is it necessary that we have to continue making pure asses out of you people? Tell me. Do you not ever learn anything? You defeated your own self in the Civil War, you defeated yourself this time, and, you will again by November 2012 because we...huh, save the best for last. Stick around rookie, our sleeves are locked and loaded!

Your lies are unacceptable. I do ask you keep giving me an opportunity to explain The Supreme Court decided that obammycare is a tax.

"" The result is that the Court’s Commerce Power jurisprudence, previously the critical source of most federal regulation of nationwide import, appears now to be subsumed under the taxing power; and worse, that the taxing power is viewed by the supreme law of the land as having no clear limits, or even a defined class of limitations. A tax is what the Court says is a tax, and a tax may be used for any conceivable regulatory end: not buying health insurance, not buying broccoli, not installing energy-efficient windows (Mr. Roberts’ own example), failing to patronize public television (not that far-fetched an example, really).""

Sooo the same Supreme Court you are worshiping at the moment decided it was a tax.

I'll take every chance you give me to post facts about the tax. 800 Billion in new taxes.