Chicago Reaches 500th Murder for 2012

Chicago Reaches 500th Murder for 2012

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LookingAhead

Greenbrier, AR

#1 Dec 28, 2012
Looks like gun control is working fine for them there.

http://fox2now.com/2012/12/28/murder-count-in...
Patriot

London, KY

#2 Dec 28, 2012
Did poppers go off with confetti? Anyone we know? lol
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#3 Dec 28, 2012
Since the Metropolitan area of Chicago hosts 9.8 Million people, wow. I thought it would be more than that ! Thanks. I guess gun control is working.

Since: Sep 09

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#4 Dec 28, 2012
Larger older cities (and with high populations) have higher crime. I think a lot of it has to do with older areas which become run-down and low income. But no gun laws work if criminals wanting guns only has to go outside the city or state to buy them. Even Mexico's criminals obtain their guns here in America.

Are the cities without gun regulations crime free? No. Are they free of gun violence? No.

Here in Kentucky we are pretty much free to carry guns. Are Kentucky cities violence free? Go to Lexington, Louisville, Covington, Newport, and others and walk alone in a lot of areas within them at night. See what happens.

Since: Sep 09

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#5 Dec 28, 2012
Btw, the criminals which have guns in large cities like Chicago (or anywhere else for that matter) get those guns from towns and states which lack in controlling guns.
LookingAhead

Greenbrier, AR

#6 Dec 28, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
Larger older cities (and with high populations) have higher crime. I think a lot of it has to do with older areas which become run-down and low income. But no gun laws work if criminals wanting guns only has to go outside the city or state to buy them. Even Mexico's criminals obtain their guns here in America.
Are the cities without gun regulations crime free? No. Are they free of gun violence? No.
Here in Kentucky we are pretty much free to carry guns. Are Kentucky cities violence free? Go to Lexington, Louisville, Covington, Newport, and others and walk alone in a lot of areas within them at night. See what happens.
I am smarter than that.I know better than to go in some of those areas and walk around at night.

Since: Sep 09

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#7 Dec 28, 2012
LookingAhead wrote:
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I am smarter than that.I know better than to go in some of those areas and walk around at night.
And the victims which were working in a neighborhood store, gas station, or restaurant that had a robber point a gun at their head? And the victims of home invasions? The people walking from the door of their work to their car in the parking lot? The ones in a store parking lot only wishing to go in and buy milk for in the morning? The person walking up to an ATM machine? The high school girl walking home from school and gets raped by a man with a gun? And the hundreds of thousands of other things people do to become victims of gun violence? Did they also have a death wish by only being in a city? Anyone ..... everyone ..... should be able to walk down a street without being killed by a armed criminal.

You can make all the excuses you wish for permitting it to continue. But that is all it is ..... excuses for not wanting to do anything about it.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#8 Dec 28, 2012
SpeakUp wrote:
Since the Metropolitan area of Chicago hosts 9.8 Million people, wow. I thought it would be more than that ! Thanks. I guess gun control is working.
Statistics don't lie, and they're not reporting Chicago's exceedingly high murder count because it's a good thing. It far surpasses the murder rate nationally.

Chicago murder rate: 15.2 per 100K
National murder rate: 4.8 per 100K
Gun homicide rate, national: 3.2 per 100K

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#9 Dec 28, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
Here in Kentucky we are pretty much free to carry guns. Are Kentucky cities violence free? Go to Lexington, Louisville, Covington, Newport, and others and walk alone in a lot of areas within them at night. See what happens.
What? I used to live in Lexington, it is a very safe city.

2010, the last year solid numbers are available, Lexington had 18 murders(including manslaughter) and 87 forcible rapes.

Yeah, real dangerous city.

Are all gun control advocates so frightened? I used to walk after dark all the time in Lexington, never bothered once.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#10 Dec 28, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
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And the victims which were working in a neighborhood store, gas station, or restaurant that had a robber point a gun at their head? And the victims of home invasions? The people walking from the door of their work to their car in the parking lot? The ones in a store parking lot only wishing to go in and buy milk for in the morning? The person walking up to an ATM machine? The high school girl walking home from school and gets raped by a man with a gun? And the hundreds of thousands of other things people do to become victims of gun violence? Did they also have a death wish by only being in a city? Anyone ..... everyone ..... should be able to walk down a street without being killed by a armed criminal.
You can make all the excuses you wish for permitting it to continue. But that is all it is ..... excuses for not wanting to do anything about it.
All these violent crimes you mention. Answer, why does the United Kingdom have six times the amount of violent crimes?

You're far more likely to get robbed, beaten, or raped in England. Yet, guns are illegal.

Seems you are quick to throw out hypothetical and hysterical violent crime examples, yet when confronted with statistics you quickly shy away from the discussion avoiding cold hard facts entirely.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#11 Dec 28, 2012
Murder rate for Kentucky in 2011?

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/kycrime.h...

3.5 per 100K, far less than the national average.

Violent crime rate for Kentucky in 2011?

238.2 per 100K, far less than the national average and a ninth of the rate in the United Kingdom. In gun-free England, you're nine times more likely to be beaten, robbed, or raped.

Yeah, Kentuckians should feel pretty safe.

Since: Sep 09

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#12 Dec 28, 2012
Bronston Man wrote:
Murder rate for Kentucky in 2011?
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/kycrime.h...
3.5 per 100K, far less than the national average.
Violent crime rate for Kentucky in 2011?
238.2 per 100K, far less than the national average and a ninth of the rate in the United Kingdom. In gun-free England, you're nine times more likely to be beaten, robbed, or raped.
Yeah, Kentuckians should feel pretty safe.
Violent crimes in Kentucky ..... 2011 ..... 10,406. That's approximately 28 violent crimes per day.

Robberies in Kentucky ..... 2011 ..... 3,693. That's about ten per day.

Burglaries in Kentucky ..... 2011 ..... 32,553. That is on average eighty-nine per day.

As a woman I'll throw in this one ..... forcible rapes in Kentucky in 2011 ..... 1,463. That doesn't count attempted sexual assault, children molested or raped, or rapes not reported. That's about four women forcibly raped in Kentucky per day.

If you feel Kentucky is so safe you don't need your gun.
Looking Ahead

Greenbrier, AR

#13 Dec 28, 2012
WHY GRAMPS CARRIES A GUN
WHY GRAMPS CARRIES A GUN
My old grandpa said to me 'Son, there comes a time in every man's life
when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and usually it's
when he becomes too old to take a whooping.'
I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the
world.
I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating
myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not
on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a
cowboy.
I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the
ones they love.
I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am
inadequate...
I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful
to me.
Police protection is an oxymoron.
Free citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the
crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to
take
an "ass" whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)
**********

Since: Sep 09

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#14 Dec 28, 2012
Looking Ahead wrote:
WHY GRAMPS CARRIES A GUN
WHY GRAMPS CARRIES A GUN
My old grandpa said to me 'Son, there comes a time in every man's life
when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and usually it's
when he becomes too old to take a whooping.'
I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the
world.
I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating
myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not
on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a
cowboy.
I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the
ones they love.
I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am
inadequate...
I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful
to me.
Police protection is an oxymoron.
Free citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the
crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to
take
an "ass" whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)
**********
Sounds fine ..... but who is attempting to take away your gun?

This is about doing something to reduce or stop gun crimes in our nation. It should also include stopping violent crime in general.
Observer

Greenbrier, AR

#15 Dec 28, 2012
Have you not seen Feinsteins new bill? It is written in such a way that many semiauto pistols will be illegal.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#16 Dec 28, 2012
It has everything to do with making guns illegal, i.e. "taking away our guns".

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#17 Dec 28, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
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If you feel Kentucky is so safe you don't need your gun.
Perhaps it is safe because of Kentuckians propensity for gun ownership? Just like England, take guns out of the equation and our violent crime rate would probably skyrocket.

And you're assuming I own a gun? I do not.

Since: Sep 09

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#18 Dec 28, 2012
This first one below was intended to be about war but it goes equally as well for the gun companies and the NRA which lobbies for them.

"You fasten the triggers
for the others to fire.
Then you set back and watch
when the death count gets higher.
You hide in your mansion
as young people's blood
flows out of their bodies
and is buried in the mud."
-- Bob Dylan

"Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction."
-- Martin Luther King Jr.

Since: Sep 09

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#19 Dec 28, 2012
Btw, Martin Luther King Jr was another person killed by a gun. I was talking about John Lennon on a thread today ..... John Lennon was also killed by a nutcase with a gun.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#20 Dec 28, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
Btw, Martin Luther King Jr was another person killed by a gun.
As was Osama Bin Laden, not to mention Hitler.

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