Fox High School Superintendent

Since: Feb 12

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#1089 Apr 28, 2012
No on Bond Issue wrote:
you are wrong,
The district has a lot of nerve coming to the public asking for an extension on the property tax they have been collecting all of these years. It's like a revolving credit card to them. As soon as the balance gets paid off they want to borrow even more! They need to live within their means and cut some of the big salaries from the top. There is no need to have as many principals, vice principals, assistant principals, etc. as they do. They should also not be using students as shills for their money grubbing cause.
I remember a day when our children went to school to be educated and didn't come home every other day having to be door to door salespeople in order to fund their class trips and extra curricular activities.
I remember when we as parents didn't have to go to the store and purchase every piece of paper, pen, pencil and school supply the students use. Give them an inch and they take a mile.
I completely agree! We are constantly paying for something. When the district doesn't have the money, then take away our children's programs, threats to cut buses, etc. they threaten to take anything they can from our kids. Gid forbid, staff take paycuts and make 90 k instead of a 100k. I am one who has always supported our district, but the teachers (the good ones) spend their own money into the classrooms and the teachers and more importantly the students suffer so higher ups can get richer all while they expect us taxpayers to continue to pay their high salaries.
2 Sides Same Coin

Fenton, MO

#1090 Apr 28, 2012
you are wrong wrote:
<quoted text>
Dollie, it is literally illegal to spend this money on anything else.
You know what else is illegal? Using public funds to send out "Please vote for the Bond issue" flyers which my kids received in their backpacks Thursday from school. This is the same violation the Jefferson County 911 Board made under Robert Sweeney's guidance. At least The Leader called them out for it. Hope they do the same with the School Board.
<quoted text> 115.646. No contribution or expenditure of public funds shall be made directly by any officer, employee or agent of any political subdivision to advocate, support, or oppose any ballot measure or candidate for public office. This section shall not be construed to prohibit any public official of a political subdivision from making public appearances or from issuing press releases concerning any such ballot measure.
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c100-199/1150...
dollie

Arnold, MO

#1091 Apr 28, 2012
no rights here wrote:
<quoted text>
I completely agree! We are constantly paying for something. When the district doesn't have the money, then take away our children's programs, threats to cut buses, etc. they threaten to take anything they can from our kids. Gid forbid, staff take paycuts and make 90 k instead of a 100k. I am one who has always supported our district, but the teachers (the good ones) spend their own money into the classrooms and the teachers and more importantly the students suffer so higher ups can get richer all while they expect us taxpayers to continue to pay their high salaries.
OMG...both said the truth...I like it!!!
duh!

Fenton, MO

#1092 May 11, 2012
2 Sides Same Coin wrote:
<quoted text>You know what else is illegal? Using public funds to send out "Please vote for the Bond issue" flyers which my kids received in their backpacks Thursday from school. This is the same violation the Jefferson County 911 Board made under Robert Sweeney's guidance. At least The Leader called them out for it. Hope they do the same with the School Board.

[QUOTE]<quoted text> 115.646. No contribution or expenditure of public funds shall be made directly by any officer, employee or agent of any political subdivision to advocate, support, or oppose any ballot measure or candidate for public office. This section shall not be construed to prohibit any public official of a political subdivision from making public appearances or from issuing press releases concerning any such ballot measure. "

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c100-199/1150...
Nowhere does it say vote yes or no. It just ask you to vote. That is not illegal. Read the law you post a closer
Duh Really

Arnold, MO

#1093 May 16, 2012
[QUOTE who="duh!"]<quote d text>
Nowhere does it say vote yes or no. It just ask you to vote. That is not illegal. Read the law you post a closer [/QUOTE]
It just axe you to vote?
Read it Again

Arnold, MO

#1094 May 16, 2012
[QUOTE who="duh!"]<quote d text>
Nowhere does it say vote yes or no. It just ask you to vote. That is not illegal. Read the law you post a closer [/QUOTE]
You are still using district funds, still unethical. You need to have a separate entity pay for and distribute.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#1095 May 16, 2012
2 Sides Same Coin wrote:
<quoted text>You know what else is illegal? Using public funds to send out "Please vote for the Bond issue" flyers which my kids received in their backpacks Thursday from school. This is the same violation the Jefferson County 911 Board made under Robert Sweeney's guidance. At least The Leader called them out for it. Hope they do the same with the School Board.

[QUOTE]<quoted text> 115.646. No contribution or expenditure of public funds shall be made directly by any officer, employee or agent of any political subdivision to advocate, support, or oppose any ballot measure or candidate for public office. This section shall not be construed to prohibit any public official of a political subdivision from making public appearances or from issuing press releases concerning any such ballot measure. "

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c100-199/1150...
I received a letter today sent home with my kids asking us to help them to extend this bond issue. While they do not say vote yes; they most definitely without a doubt, ask for our help to extend the bond issue. Yada, yada......
remember when

Kingdom City, MO

#1096 May 22, 2012
[QUOTE who="duh!"]<quote d text>
Nowhere does it say vote yes or no. It just ask you to vote. That is not illegal. Read the law you post a closer [/QUOTE]

Since you seem to agree with this word trickery. You may very well be in the know. Who is footing the bill for this letter ? Private Party or Taxpayer ?
knower

Chicago, IL

#1097 May 22, 2012
remember when wrote:
[QUOTE who="duh!"]<quote d text>
Nowhere does it say vote yes or no. It just ask you to vote. That is not illegal. Read the law you post a closer "

Since you seem to agree with this word trickery. You may very well be in the know. Who is footing the bill for this letter ? Private Party or Taxpayer ?
Many private parties chose to give their hard earned money to pay for paper and copying. I did.
remember when

Cement City, MI

#1098 May 23, 2012
knower wrote:
<quoted text>
Many private parties chose to give their hard earned money to pay for paper and copying. I did.
So you personally donated paper for the letter going home with children on this bond issue ?
knower

Saint Louis, MO

#1099 May 23, 2012
remember when wrote:
<quoted text>So you personally donated paper for the letter going home with children on this bond issue ?
No.
duh!

Fenton, MO

#1100 May 26, 2012
knower wrote:
<quoted text>No.
it is not illegal to use taxpayer money to try and get people to vote. Again they didn't ask you to vote yes. It is a fine line but no laws would have been broken if school funds, which are your tax payer money to send out this letter. Right or wrong in your opinion not against the law.
Wrong

Arnold, MO

#1101 May 28, 2012
Yes, it is against the law to use taxpayer money to convince taxpayers to vote for a tax increase. By sending the most recent letter to parents signed by Diane Critchlow that is asking people to support the bond issue, they used district money on the postage, paper, envelope and ink. That is a violation.
wtf

Camdenton, MO

#1102 May 28, 2012
Wrong wrote:
Yes, it is against the law to use taxpayer money to convince taxpayers to vote for a tax increase. By sending the most recent letter to parents signed by Diane Critchlow that is asking people to support the bond issue, they used district money on the postage, paper, envelope and ink. That is a violation.
didn't they send they home with kids where the postage on that
Wrong

Arnold, MO

#1103 May 28, 2012
They put them in with the report cards, so yes, there was postage and an envelope and paper from the district used.
knower

Dallas, TX

#1104 May 28, 2012
Wrong wrote:
They put them in with the report cards, so yes, there was postage and an envelope and paper from the district used.
District employees were asked to donate money to promote the bond issue. I do not know exactly how much was collected or how the donations were distributed, but it is possible that the donations were used to purchase paper, postage, and defray copying costs.
Wrong

Arnold, MO

#1105 May 28, 2012
The letter came inside the same envelope that the report cards came in. That means district funds were used, not donated funds.

I wonder what kind of list teachers that don't donate are added to? They should not solicit donations for a political cause in the workplace supported by taxpayer dollars. It is a conflict.
knower

Addison, IL

#1106 May 29, 2012
Wrong wrote:
The letter came inside the same envelope that the report cards came in. That means district funds were used, not donated funds.

I wonder what kind of list teachers that don't donate are added to? They should not solicit donations for a political cause in the workplace supported by taxpayer dollars. It is a conflict.
How does that mean district funds were used??
Fox parent

Chicago, IL

#1107 May 29, 2012
You are all idiots. First you complain that schools aren't doing enough, it's because they are under funded. Do you realize that all theese people sending the kids to fox schools that live in apartments, are sending their children to our schools for free. And it is not illegal to use district funds to get you to vote. As long as they didn't say vote yes, which they didn't. So you all should dig the sand out of your viginas and go find something else to cry about. Or maybe help you children with there school work do they won't end up sitting on their fat asses bitching on the Internet while they should be at work.
Fox Parent Too

Arnold, MO

#1108 May 29, 2012
What do you think "support" means? Here is a quote from the letter:

"This year we will be asking you to extend your support on an August 7, 2012, NO Tax Increase,$18,500,000 Bond Issue..."

It is illegal to use district funds(taxpayer money) to ask you to support a tax increase, bond issue or candidate. This is clearly the case with the letter that arrived in the same envelope with district report cards.

By the way, the people who live in apartments are contributing to the taxes collected indirectly every time they pay their rent. Apartment buildings are considered commercial property and are assessed at 32% a higher rate than residential homes that are at 19%. The owner of the commercial property pays much higher taxes, as do businesses. Businesses have no children in school.

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