cronholm story shows what double dip...
concerned citizen

Gilberts, IL

#44 Apr 16, 2010
Lockport Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>So please, correct the Herald News. Where are they wrong? Does Cronholm make $155,957 a year from the Lockport Fire Department? Does Cronholm receive $3,863 a MONTH for his Lockport pension? Does Cronholm receive "half again as much" from his Oakbrook pension? Does all of that not come out to nearly $19,000 a MONTH?
How can you defend this type of abuse? Can you honestly say that there is nobody else out there in the world that could have filled his shoes? How about some man or woman out of a job, not able to pay the mortgage, losing their home, etc.? Couldn't they have helped manage a department with less than 80 employees for a heck of a lot less than $155,957? I am sure we would get a line of people wrapped around Lockport for half of that money with the type of benefits we are giving away too.
Don't forget that this is a brand new position that the board added over $155,000 to the budget without even thinking twice about it in this economy AND they promoted the current Chief for $169,000 AND are looking for an assistant chief too. How much excess should there be? How many firemen could we have hired for the wasteful spending in administration? How many of those fireman would be willing to take up some of the extra load and do some administration work too, just so they can have a job?
Anyone who supports this is absolutely pathetic or involved.
As I said before you should not beleive everything you read! But some people do! I feel very sorry for you! Name calling is very childish by the way!
CITIZEN X

Lockport, IL

#45 Apr 16, 2010
concerned citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said before you should not beleive everything you read! But some people do! I feel very sorry for you! Name calling is very childish by the way!
no need to worry. there are only 4 or 5 people that live on this topix. they go buy diffrent names. they think they can make a diffrence, this is the only thing they live for. they have no life. they are timid little cowards that sit behind a keyboard, but never show up for board meetings etc. the keyboard is what makes them, or i should say makes them manly men.
Weenie Roast

Homer Glen, IL

#46 Apr 16, 2010
CITIZEN X wrote:
<quoted text> no need to worry. there are only 4 or 5 people that live on this topix. they go buy diffrent names. they think they can make a diffrence, this is the only thing they live for. they have no life. they are timid little cowards that sit behind a keyboard, but never show up for board meetings etc. the keyboard is what makes them, or i should say makes them manly men.
I guess your mommy names you "Citizen X" on the way out of the salmon hole. Welcome to the board Lynn Cronholm. Hate to burst your bubble but your on the take with your husband, more than likely your getting a bigger cut of Robbys theft of the taxpayers or you wouldn't be here defending his illiterate a$$. Lets be honest nobody would leap on here and make a feeble attempt at defending someone unless they had a stake in the matter and really nobody but his wife would do it as we all know his pappy is too old to know what a computer is. Along with that Lynn his friends are talking and BTW check a little deeper into his private affairs you might be surprised. I plan on divulging a little teaser and some tasty morsels of what Robby his been doing in his spare time here in the next few days.

As for you Todd Randich Bravo for your defense but it is nauseating. Lets be honest, if your dad was not the Mayor of Crest Hill for 87 years you would be stacking shelves at Wal-Mart instead of frying steaks and watching TV at the fire house.

This whole thing is a disgrace it is almost on par with the Township scandals and waste of pay, but actually way worse.

This has only begun.

Shame on you Cronholm, your time to scam and play on the side is up pal. Your going to see what happens when you support relatives over more qualified people.
CITIZEN X

Lockport, IL

#47 Apr 17, 2010
Weenie Roast wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess your mommy names you "Citizen X" on the way out of the salmon hole. Welcome to the board Lynn Cronholm. Hate to burst your bubble but your on the take with your husband, more than likely your getting a bigger cut of Robbys theft of the taxpayers or you wouldn't be here defending his illiterate a$$. Lets be honest nobody would leap on here and make a feeble attempt at defending someone unless they had a stake in the matter and really nobody but his wife would do it as we all know his pappy is too old to know what a computer is. Along with that Lynn his friends are talking and BTW check a little deeper into his private affairs you might be surprised. I plan on divulging a little teaser and some tasty morsels of what Robby his been doing in his spare time here in the next few days.
As for you Todd Randich Bravo for your defense but it is nauseating. Lets be honest, if your dad was not the Mayor of Crest Hill for 87 years you would be stacking shelves at Wal-Mart instead of frying steaks and watching TV at the fire house.
This whole thing is a disgrace it is almost on par with the Township scandals and waste of pay, but actually way worse.
This has only begun.
Shame on you Cronholm, your time to scam and play on the side is up pal. Your going to see what happens when you support relatives over more qualified people.
what name are you gonna go buy next post?
Lockport Opinion

Schiller Park, IL

#48 Apr 17, 2010
concerned citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said before you should not beleive everything you read! But some people do! I feel very sorry for you! Name calling is very childish by the way!
Then please, old wise one, tell us what the truth is.
SMITHY

Homer Glen, IL

#49 Apr 18, 2010
I just got through reading all the comments on this story in the Herald News. They are priceless. Anyone and everyone is in agreement that this former Chief does not and should not earn this kind of a salary. His father did not vote, well, great balls of fire, his father's two friends did and how do you think they voted. It is a smelly deal that is for sure.
bow tie

Joliet, IL

#50 Apr 18, 2010
concerned citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
THAT is absolutely WRONG bowtie! How do you know that? I will tell you for a FACT that Pelc's daughter went through the entire hiring process! And she is qualified for the job! You have NO idea about what you are talking about!
Mr. Cronholm there may have been a hiring process but what news paper was it posted in. It's lind of funny when no one else applied for it. Maybe it was posted at the MOOSE LODGE :)
bow tie

Joliet, IL

#51 Apr 18, 2010
Richard Cronholm wrote:
First, let me say my son is not overpaid. I remember when little Robbie was knee-high to a fire engine and he alway wanted to be a fireman. His youthful spirit and energy alone are worth more than any job could afford to pay him.
Second, so what if he doesn't have a college degree neither. Do you?...I doubt it if your reading this site. He has job experience and you cannot learn that in a classroom or a book, you learn that at the end of ladder with flames kissing your face like my Robbie has.
Last, if you add up the following...
$3,863 per month +
"half again as much" from Oak Brook +
$155,957 per year from current job that has a DIFFERENT title than what he retired from...
Annually, all this equals a grand total of...MORE than ANY of you reading this will make combined in the next 45 years.
My son is the greatest Fire Chief this fire district has ever had the fortune to serve and be served.
Richard this comment, "My son is the greatest Fire Chief this fire district has ever had the fortune to serve and be served" is a big punch in the face to your buddy Martis and Buzz Beverly. I heard that there is a saying going around the fire stations "Rob Cronholm before he Robs you". Thats priceless!!!
The Truth

Plainfield, IL

#52 Apr 19, 2010
Please do not confuse the integrity of the employees of the Lockport Township Fire District with the actions of one person and the Fire District Trustees. Most of us realize who pays the bills. Thank-you to the taxpayers of the Lockport Township Fire District for giving us a competitive salary and state of the art equipment. Reading through all these posts here are the facts to some common misconceptions. The Lockport Township Fire Distinct is their own taxing body; they are not affiliated with the City of Lockport or Lockport Township. The District Trustee’s are elected to answer to the taxpayers. Rob Cronholm does have a master’s degree. Jennifer Pelc was hired because of her back ground in insurance billing, that she does not do anymore as it is contracted out. She is not having an affair with any employees. Todd Randich is a Competent Lieutenant and held fire dept jobs elsewhere before being hired by Lockport using a very stringent testing process and background check. Whether paid or volunteer we are still public servants. I can assure you none of the sworn personnel agree with this and are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated.
Finally the truth

United States

#53 Apr 19, 2010
The Truth wrote:
I can assure you none of the sworn personnel agree with this and are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated.
Thank you for this very courageous post!

You've just said what everyone else already knows. "All sworn personnel are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated."

You're not embarrassed one bit that this theft from the taxpayers happened and is not being rescinded. You all are only embarrassed that it was exposed.

Shame on all of you for staying silent and merely waiting for your turn at the public trough, and especially the trustees.

I doubt anything will happen as a result of this, but I sure hope the taxpayers remember this vividly when re-election time comes around.
Weenie Roast

Homer Glen, IL

#54 Apr 19, 2010
The Truth wrote:
Please do not confuse the integrity of the employees of the Lockport Township Fire District with the actions of one person and the Fire District Trustees. Most of us realize who pays the bills. Thank-you to the taxpayers of the Lockport Township Fire District for giving us a competitive salary and state of the art equipment. Reading through all these posts here are the facts to some common misconceptions. The Lockport Township Fire Distinct is their own taxing body; they are not affiliated with the City of Lockport or Lockport Township. The District Trustee’s are elected to answer to the taxpayers. Rob Cronholm does have a master’s degree. Jennifer Pelc was hired because of her back ground in insurance billing, that she does not do anymore as it is contracted out. She is not having an affair with any employees. Todd Randich is a Competent Lieutenant and held fire dept jobs elsewhere before being hired by Lockport using a very stringent testing process and background check. Whether paid or volunteer we are still public servants. I can assure you none of the sworn personnel agree with this and are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated.
Oh well in that case it's all OK, thanks for clearing everything up for us Rob Cronholm and...... Rob, from the bottom of my heart thank you for visiting and posting on Topix. It has been a pleasure having you take the time to tell us a little about you and your cronies at the fire department.

Seriously, this site is real funny when it's about somebody else but when it's about you and yours it's not so humorous anymore is it.

Do you take us for complete idiots??? Rob Cronholm is a disgraceful unqualified crook, if he had any integrity he would resign. HE and all of us know he has a gravy job that was intended to be outlawed by state law and he is using a loophole. What he and the board have done is shameful. If he had a doctorate he would not be worth what he is getting paid. The Fire Dept is a den of nepotism. Martis's kid also works there right? Pelc's daughter and Ron Cronholm and Mayor Randich's boy....the list goes on. YOU ARE ALL CROOKS.

As for Ron being faithful to his wife, well if I were you I would have left that one alone. It is common knowledge at the firehouse and you know what Rob has done. It is common knowledge to everybody but Robbies wife. Lets just say, like father like son. Dick Cronholm and I go way way back and Dick has had more women than he could count over the years and Robbie has followed in dear old dad's footsteps. Lets just also say Todd Randich, and many more at the fire house have similar or worse history when it comes to marital vows. But who cares right?

You all are a disgrace and disgrace the uniform and city you claim to serve. People are starving in this city for money and jobs and you are all robbing the taxpayers blind, shame on you all.
The Truth

Plainfield, IL

#55 Apr 19, 2010
Finally the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for this very courageous post!
You've just said what everyone else already knows. "All sworn personnel are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated."
You're not embarrassed one bit that this theft from the taxpayers happened and is not being rescinded. You all are only embarrassed that it was exposed.
Shame on all of you for staying silent and merely waiting for your turn at the public trough, and especially the trustees.
I doubt anything will happen as a result of this, but I sure hope the taxpayers remember this vividly when re-election time comes around.
You left out the part about the fact that we do not agree whith their actions. The rest is YOUR opionion not the facts!
Weenie Roast

Homer Glen, IL

#56 Apr 19, 2010
Finally the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for this very courageous post!
You've just said what everyone else already knows. "All sworn personnel are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated."
You're not embarrassed one bit that this theft from the taxpayers happened and is not being rescinded. You all are only embarrassed that it was exposed.
Shame on all of you for staying silent and merely waiting for your turn at the public trough, and especially the trustees.
I doubt anything will happen as a result of this, but I sure hope the taxpayers remember this vividly when re-election time comes around.
Great post!

They, the Fire Dept. are a great example of unchecked power and government run out of control. Only friends get hired, relatives get multi-million dollar contracts and choice jobs i.e. Piazzas get contract to do the masonry for multi-million dollar Taj Mahal type fire barns with museums and lavish extras. Relatives get on the payroll at will and its explained away with righteous indignation.

They (the FD cronies) are mad at the newspaper and then the public for daring to criticize...I know it for a fact, I am there to hear it.

Folks, this is what you get with the FD and the township. Unfortunately the truth is the general public does not even know these boards exist and what they do such as the Fire department board of trustees and the Lockport township government. Most people know they have a mayor and maybe a school board but they really don't know about these other boards and to make matters worse they are on control of massive budgets and millions of dollars.

For instance, Judy Batusich, Township Stupervisor has no responsibility and nothing to do and she just gave herself a raise into the $70,000+ range and oh BTW her son is also a firefighter. Common people all over this area are hurting, but not these people who rape and plunder the system via the use or misuse of our tax dollars.

Robbie, please resign and show you have some dignity. You still will get more money than most everybody else anyway.
The Truth

Plainfield, IL

#57 Apr 19, 2010
Weenie Roast wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh well in that case it's all OK, thanks for clearing everything up for us Rob Cronholm and...... Rob, from the bottom of my heart thank you for visiting and posting on Topix. It has been a pleasure having you take the time to tell us a little about you and your cronies at the fire department.
Seriously, this site is real funny when it's about somebody else but when it's about you and yours it's not so humorous anymore is it.
Do you take us for complete idiots??? Rob Cronholm is a disgraceful unqualified crook, if he had any integrity he would resign. HE and all of us know he has a gravy job that was intended to be outlawed by state law and he is using a loophole. What he and the board have done is shameful. If he had a doctorate he would not be worth what he is getting paid. The Fire Dept is a den of nepotism. Martis's kid also works there right? Pelc's daughter and Ron Cronholm and Mayor Randich's boy....the list goes on. YOU ARE ALL CROOKS.
As for Ron being faithful to his wife, well if I were you I would have left that one alone. It is common knowledge at the firehouse and you know what Rob has done. It is common knowledge to everybody but Robbies wife. Lets just say, like father like son. Dick Cronholm and I go way way back and Dick has had more women than he could count over the years and Robbie has followed in dear old dad's footsteps. Lets just also say Todd Randich, and many more at the fire house have similar or worse history when it comes to marital vows. But who cares right?
You all are a disgrace and disgrace the uniform and city you claim to serve. People are starving in this city for money and jobs and you are all robbing the taxpayers blind, shame on you all.
I was only stating the facts. Not throwing stones. You obviously write with much emotion and little facts to back it up.
TO WEENIE ROAST

Carpentersville, IL

#58 Apr 19, 2010
So now you know about everything that is going on behind closed doors at the fire house. So you will be at the next fire district meeting expressing your thoughts right? It is going to do no good to sit here and write all these blogs if you are going to do nothing about it.
Weenie Roast wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post!
They, the Fire Dept. are a great example of unchecked power and government run out of control. Only friends get hired, relatives get multi-million dollar contracts and choice jobs i.e. Piazzas get contract to do the masonry for multi-million dollar Taj Mahal type fire barns with museums and lavish extras. Relatives get on the payroll at will and its explained away with righteous indignation.
They (the FD cronies) are mad at the newspaper and then the public for daring to criticize...I know it for a fact, I am there to hear it.
Folks, this is what you get with the FD and the township. Unfortunately the truth is the general public does not even know these boards exist and what they do such as the Fire department board of trustees and the Lockport township government. Most people know they have a mayor and maybe a school board but they really don't know about these other boards and to make matters worse they are on control of massive budgets and millions of dollars.
For instance, Judy Batusich, Township Stupervisor has no responsibility and nothing to do and she just gave herself a raise into the $70,000+ range and oh BTW her son is also a firefighter. Common people all over this area are hurting, but not these people who rape and plunder the system via the use or misuse of our tax dollars.
Robbie, please resign and show you have some dignity. You still will get more money than most everybody else anyway.
TO WEENIE ROAST

Carpentersville, IL

#59 Apr 19, 2010
And you will be sitting right next to him at the meeting correct?
Finally the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for this very courageous post!
You've just said what everyone else already knows. "All sworn personnel are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated."
You're not embarrassed one bit that this theft from the taxpayers happened and is not being rescinded. You all are only embarrassed that it was exposed.
Shame on all of you for staying silent and merely waiting for your turn at the public trough, and especially the trustees.
I doubt anything will happen as a result of this, but I sure hope the taxpayers remember this vividly when re-election time comes around.
Lockport Opinion

Schiller Park, IL

#60 Apr 19, 2010
Finally the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for this very courageous post!
You've just said what everyone else already knows. "All sworn personnel are embarrassed by all the negative publicity this has generated."
You're not embarrassed one bit that this theft from the taxpayers happened and is not being rescinded. You all are only embarrassed that it was exposed.
Shame on all of you for staying silent and merely waiting for your turn at the public trough, and especially the trustees.
I doubt anything will happen as a result of this, but I sure hope the taxpayers remember this vividly when re-election time comes around.
If Cronholm were half the man that people say he is, he would walk away from this debacle and start working on earning the taxpayer's respect again. He may have served this city well for the last 9 years, but this is totally out of line. If he chooses to stay on, we all know he is a money grubbing scumbag. NO ONE deserves this much pay from a township/fire department of this size.
Weenie Roast

Homer Glen, IL

#61 Apr 19, 2010
The Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
I was only stating the facts. Not throwing stones. You obviously write with much emotion and little facts to back it up.
What are the facts Rob? You are screwing the taxpayers and your dad's cronies gave it to you, is that not a fact. Pelc's daughter got a sweetheart job under the table just like Batusich in Joliet, Randich's son, Dan Martis, etc. etc. etc., is that not a fact? Rob Cronholm can barely string a sentence together and earns more than a wall street executive, is that not a fact? Pelc is a drunken loser, is that not a fact?

What you recipients of the cronyism don't get is thousands of taxpayers who pay your bloated salaries and ridiculous benefits would like a equal shot at getting the jobs but instead you get them because your cronies have feathered the nest for you and your buddies, is that not a fact?

Some of you have not been faithful to your wives and you were not careful of who you told and who took pictures of you, is that not a fact? Granted, you didn't know they were taking pictures of you of course.

So since you get the crony jobs and bloated paychecks at least understand your the recipients of cronyism and it's not deserved. Don't fool yourselves into thinking you were the best candidates or that you deserved it, OK. What the Herald did was just expose the tip of the iceberg. Rob, you shouldn't have been greedy and just retired. Your daddy shouldn't have passed people over for promotions for his cronies.

What I am going to do for you Robbie and your buddies in the next few days is publish a website just for you guys. You can find the link to it here so be sure to check back often OK. You and your wives will get to see first hand what you do in your free time (and the people's time with pay) and the what goes on in your lives. When you play sometimes you need to pay. This is just good old fashioned reporting of what our public officials do, don't you want to know. If you have never done anything wrong or anything your wives or the public wouldn't approve of then you have nothing to worry about right. If you keep your nose clean you can rest your little heads on your pillow tonight with confidence.

You want facts??? I will give you facts, pictures and more OK.

Some of you may have to start paying 1/3 of salary in child support after the wives take a peekaboo.

Your quiet little world of taxpayer theft may come to an abrupt end and you may start to get some more coverage like Jack Waxweiler got. Remember Jack when he took the government truck on vacation to sunny Florida and blamed it on his hearing aides when channel 2 caught up with him and his giant wrinkly face.

Did you ever think when you were using government cars for misuse and taking days with pay anybody was watching? Did you ever think when you entertained women other than your wives anybody was watching? The answer my fellow Fireman is...yes they were.

Riddle me this...Who am I you are wondering...the answer is I walk among you every day.

See you soon.
The Truth

Plainfield, IL

#62 Apr 19, 2010
Hey Weenie Roast I am not Rob Cronholm or one of his cronies. Chill out.
Blah blah blah

United States

#64 Apr 19, 2010
TO WEENIE ROAST wrote:
Tough Guy behind a computer now are we not? Like I stated previously go to a meeting and voice your opinion. Sitting on this web site is going to accomplish nothing. Oh one more thing grow a pair of nuts you P***Y.
<quoted text>
Sounds to me from reading your post like you're the one trying to be the "tough guy behind the computer." What are you, 13?

Instead of whining incessantly about what people "should" do, why don't you come to terms with reality and realize that each person is going to act as he/she sees fit? You wanna go to a meeting? Knock yourself out.

Me? I read earlier in this discussion how the "uniformed members" of the LTFPD don't agree with this, so I'll let them show up at the meetings as a united front to oppose this underhanded skirting of state law via a loophole. I'm fairly sure that won't happen, however, so I'll do what I see as my best course of action and remember this incident when I vote in all future elections. LTFPD referendum 20 or more years from now? I already know I'm voting NO. Maybe if the more junior FF's have to use military surplus fire fighting equipment from the 1950's, they'll be a little more inclined to speak up when they see an outrage like this one. AFAIK, if they live in the township, they're paying for this guy's luxurious lifestyle as well.

As for WEENIE ROAST, well, he/she is going to do what he/she will do regardless of what anyone else thinks, so why not do us all a favor and stop parroting your same tired message?

That new web site sounds like it could be really interesting, though, if it comes to fruition. To be honest, I'm not going to hold my breath, but I will keep an eye out for it.

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