cronholm story shows what double dipping really means

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JOHN J

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Apr 14, 2010
 
There is a story in the Herald News today and the fire dept. chief is taking down about 3000 dollars per week plus. Taxpayers take note, and if you have complaints just read this story and then complain to the right people. It is so telling. His daddy did not vote but his two friends did vote. Wow! I think the firefighters do a marvelous, dangerous job and make no where near that money and never will.--------- But since we have room on these boards to complain about salaries let's start with Chief Cronholm's salary. Besides that he takes down a pension, partial. I am figuring this on a work week, ha, ha. What type of education does he have? Did he go to college? Experience------based on the job which he was paid for. LETS HEAR HOW WE ARE WASTING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
Richard Cronholm

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First, let me say my son is not overpaid. I remember when little Robbie was knee-high to a fire engine and he alway wanted to be a fireman. His youthful spirit and energy alone are worth more than any job could afford to pay him.

Second, so what if he doesn't have a college degree neither. Do you?...I doubt it if your reading this site. He has job experience and you cannot learn that in a classroom or a book, you learn that at the end of ladder with flames kissing your face like my Robbie has.

Last, if you add up the following...

$3,863 per month +
"half again as much" from Oak Brook +
$155,957 per year from current job that has a DIFFERENT title than what he retired from...

Annually, all this equals a grand total of...MORE than ANY of you reading this will make combined in the next 45 years.

My son is the greatest Fire Chief this fire district has ever had the fortune to serve and be served.
CITIZEN X

Homer Glen, IL

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this is not 30 years ago, when there was only 2 stations. about 20 full time guys, and about 20 paid on call guys. now it's 6 stations, who know's how many full time guys there are? sadly it's run like a company now. but i would rather have it run the way that it is, than to have a garden hose waiting for them to arrive
JOHN P

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CITIZEN X wrote:
this is not 30 years ago, when there was only 2 stations. about 20 full time guys, and about 20 paid on call guys. now it's 6 stations, who know's how many full time guys there are? sadly it's run like a company now. but i would rather have it run the way that it is, than to have a garden hose waiting for them to arrive
He is raking the city, 300,000 dollars a year. wow! It has nothing to do with the fire dept. they are great. He is the one who is raking the city, just the same way that Waxy did. He is getting rich fast on the people's money.
Canal Boat

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JOHN P wrote:
<quoted text> He is raking the city, 300,000 dollars a year. wow! It has nothing to do with the fire dept. they are great. He is the one who is raking the city, just the same way that Waxy did. He is getting rich fast on the people's money.
Let's just clarify something. Cronholm and Waxweiler have TOWNSHIP positions. They DO NOT have City positions. They certainly are raking in the money from the taxpayers.

Lockport TOWNSHIP is not the same as the CITY of Lockport.
Lockport Opinion

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Apr 14, 2010
 
Can anyone tell me how many employees there are at the fire department? Currently we have two administrators making over $325,000 a year (not including Cronholm's pensions) AND they are looking for an assistant chief too. How much will he/she make? I'm sure we will be over $400,000 in administration salaries after they find an assistant chief. THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!

How come Cronholm worked in Lockport for only nine years and Oakbrook for 20 years, but his pension is twice as big from Lockport? How does that add up?

Listen up voters - Cronholm is receiving $18,790 a MONTH in pensions and salary and we are paying the majority of this. That is $225,480 a year for working for the fire department! That does not include his health insurance or any other paid benefits he receives.
Hardliner

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Apr 15, 2010
 
Lockport Opinion, wake up.

Do you understand the responsibility of the fire cheif? That is why he makes 320k per year. He is well worth each and every cent.

400k for the assistant is a reasonable price in today's economy. Don't you understand that these folks are critical to our success and safety as a community?

Lockport Opinion, you are a pencil pushing snob, who lies at every turn of the corner.
Lockport Opinion

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Apr 15, 2010
 
Hardliner wrote:
Lockport Opinion, wake up.
Do you understand the responsibility of the fire cheif? That is why he makes 320k per year. He is well worth each and every cent.
400k for the assistant is a reasonable price in today's economy. Don't you understand that these folks are critical to our success and safety as a community?
Lockport Opinion, you are a pencil pushing snob, who lies at every turn of the corner.
Ollie/Lockport Leroy the idiot again.
quiet contractor

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Apr 15, 2010
 
Lockport Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>Ollie/Lockport Leroy the idiot again.
Yes, just as my new ally predicted, you are as useless as tts on a bull.

You are an all around jacka$$ with a self-proclaiming attitude.

Oh, and for the record, we know who you are. You are Tom Murphy. That is why you have been criticizing him so much in your posts. It all makes sense now.

That is why you have such a hard one at Dist. 91 for so many of its staff members.

And when you refer to your children, you are reffering to the former Mayor, Tim Murphy. Which would make perfect sense.

No longer must we ponder who you are. You can go straight to hell.
Lockport Opinion

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Apr 15, 2010
 
quiet contractor wrote:
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Yes, just as my new ally predicted, you are as useless as tts on a bull.
You are an all around jacka$$ with a self-proclaiming attitude.
Oh, and for the record, we know who you are. You are Tom Murphy. That is why you have been criticizing him so much in your posts. It all makes sense now.
That is why you have such a hard one at Dist. 91 for so many of its staff members.
And when you refer to your children, you are reffering to the former Mayor, Tim Murphy. Which would make perfect sense.
No longer must we ponder who you are. You can go straight to hell.
You really are an idiot. I support District 91 and the administration, you need to go back and read my posts which you can't wait to comment on again and again. I think Tom Murphy was a useless blowhard and so was his son. His wife had some merit on the school board, but Tom was useless.
Jeff

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New job title "FIRE THIEF" and he is the best ever at that.He got to retire by hireing Pelc's daughter last March. I wonder if he still plays golf on Tuesday,that was an important part of his job as Fire Chief.
bow tie

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Lockport Opinion: There are 77 Firefighters that work on shift. That number is divided by three shifts and this number includes the three Batt. Chiefs that are on shift. Richard Cronholm: You can stop fluffing your sons ego. The lawyer that the fire district pays for to represent your son helped get him his nice new job. You said that education does not mean anything obviously you don't have one and here you are along with Dave Martis and Jim Pec are incharge of a fire district that has a budget of about $18 million dollars. You said that ROBBIE has job experience and you cannot learn that in a classroom or a book, you learn that at the end of ladder with flames kissing your face like my Robbie has. I'm not sure where you have been for the past 30 years but I know that OAKBROOK FIRE DEPT. did not have very many fire's. ROBBIE sure did learn how to reset alarms. Richard your son "ROBBIE" said something in the paper about how Orland Fire Dept. and Lisle Woodridge has the same amount of adminstrators, but ROBBIE did not tell the papers that they have about 30 to 50 more fireifghters than Lockport Fire Dept. has. HARDLINER; you need to get all the facts about ROBBIE he is not worth $320,000.00. Since he sarted the whole wet dream with the new position he is never there. He is always out somewhere. Now that nice weather is coming you can catch him at the golf course working on his short game with a golden putter. And one more thing MR. RICHARD CRONHOLM I do have a College Education and maybe you should have had your son proof read you post before you posted it. He could have used his education to correct your grammer. I am sure you know that I am a firefighter and have friends that are on your fire department. I am thankful that you or your is not in charge of the place that I work for.
Lockport Opinion

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Apr 15, 2010
 
bow tie wrote:
Lockport Opinion: There are 77 Firefighters that work on shift. That number is divided by three shifts and this number includes the three Batt. Chiefs that are on shift. Richard Cronholm: You can stop fluffing your sons ego. The lawyer that the fire district pays for to represent your son helped get him his nice new job. You said that education does not mean anything obviously you don't have one and here you are along with Dave Martis and Jim Pec are incharge of a fire district that has a budget of about $18 million dollars. You said that ROBBIE has job experience and you cannot learn that in a classroom or a book, you learn that at the end of ladder with flames kissing your face like my Robbie has. I'm not sure where you have been for the past 30 years but I know that OAKBROOK FIRE DEPT. did not have very many fire's. ROBBIE sure did learn how to reset alarms. Richard your son "ROBBIE" said something in the paper about how Orland Fire Dept. and Lisle Woodridge has the same amount of adminstrators, but ROBBIE did not tell the papers that they have about 30 to 50 more fireifghters than Lockport Fire Dept. has. HARDLINER; you need to get all the facts about ROBBIE he is not worth $320,000.00. Since he sarted the whole wet dream with the new position he is never there. He is always out somewhere. Now that nice weather is coming you can catch him at the golf course working on his short game with a golden putter. And one more thing MR. RICHARD CRONHOLM I do have a College Education and maybe you should have had your son proof read you post before you posted it. He could have used his education to correct your grammer. I am sure you know that I am a firefighter and have friends that are on your fire department. I am thankful that you or your is not in charge of the place that I work for.
These numbers are absolutely insane. Over $300,000 is being spent to manage under 80 employees and they want to hire another assistant chief? This is such a rip off to all taxpayers in Lockport Township and we need to stand up against these idiots and stop the insanity.
Jeff

Yorkville, IL

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Apr 16, 2010
 
Cronholm is over the office help, that is only 4 or 5 employee's. Don't forget the great job he did on the new fire station, it sat empty for 6 months waiting for water and sewer lines.When they finally moved into the office they used portable toliets for a month,that is the great planning we are paying him for.
cubs fan

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Apr 16, 2010
 
Maybe lockport township should have a tea party.
citizen xx

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Apr 16, 2010
 
Jeff wrote:
New job title "FIRE THIEF" and he is the best ever at that.He got to retire by hireing Pelc's daughter last March. I wonder if he still plays golf on Tuesday,that was an important part of his job as Fire Chief.
why would that have anything to do with him retiring early? and how would this "jeff" person know who is and who isn't his daughter?! maybe, you work or worked there as you seem to know an awful lot about what goes on in this place. or maybe just a jerk holding a grudge?! i guess she just magically started there and did not go thru any interview processes or training? it seems to me that your wife gave you this info as she is no longer there and missed her opprtunity to move up the ladder?! maybe she just had a bad attidude all together and no one liked her and found her difficult to work with?! next time know your role and keep your flap shut. apparently all you have is second hand info. here is some advice, believe half of what you hear and none of what you read
WHY BOTHER

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Apr 16, 2010
 
Jeff wrote:
Cronholm is over the office help, that is only 4 or 5 employee's. Don't forget the great job he did on the new fire station, it sat empty for 6 months waiting for water and sewer lines.When they finally moved into the office they used portable toliets for a month,that is the great planning we are paying him for.
wtf do you care about the city of lockport anyways!? you live in darien, which is no where close to lockport and not even the same county... worry about your own city and get on with tomorrow. you have no reason to get in the business if you do not even live in here....myob
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Jeff wrote:
Cronholm is over the office help, that is only 4 or 5 employee's. Don't forget the great job he did on the new fire station, it sat empty for 6 months waiting for water and sewer lines.When they finally moved into the office they used portable toliets for a month,that is the great planning we are paying him for.
loser, i drove by there while it was being built...the weather, called rain, is why it took so long for the pipes to be laid. not because of the planning....blame mother nature has nothing to with him
Lockport Opinion

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Apr 16, 2010
 
citizen xx wrote:
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why would that have anything to do with him retiring early? and how would this "jeff" person know who is and who isn't his daughter?! maybe, you work or worked there as you seem to know an awful lot about what goes on in this place. or maybe just a jerk holding a grudge?! i guess she just magically started there and did not go thru any interview processes or training? it seems to me that your wife gave you this info as she is no longer there and missed her opprtunity to move up the ladder?! maybe she just had a bad attidude all together and no one liked her and found her difficult to work with?! next time know your role and keep your flap shut. apparently all you have is second hand info. here is some advice, believe half of what you hear and none of what you read
The only person that would defend these atrocities has to be one of the board members or Cronholm himself. If either of these are the case, and this is how they try to formulate a response - God help us.

Ever hear of capitalizing the first letter in a sentence? I think they taught that in 2nd grade.
Lockport Opinion

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Apr 16, 2010
 
Citizen xx, WHY BOTHER and over the top - hmmmm, do you think they are the same person? All have the same typing pattern and all believe that the fire department is just fine ripping off the taxpayers. Yep, definitely Cronholm or the board.

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