New Subdivison between Bruce and Oak Ave (off Briggs)

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Since: Sep 08

L-Town

#1 Sep 29, 2008
Does anyone have any information on this and when and if they are going to start building? When I first heard about all the building in that area and south of Bruce Road I was shocked. I truly didn't think they would want to put new houses into Fairmont school district.
Lockport Opinion

Wheaton, IL

#2 Sep 29, 2008
A lot of builders have announced plans to build there and some have even tried. They just aren't very successful or aren't doing their due dilligence when they plan their developments. The only thing that has sold well in this school district in the last few years has been Lago Vista and that is a senior community and their taxes are outrageous.

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Since: Sep 08

L-Town

#3 Sep 29, 2008
So are they planning on just leaving it as it is for awhile or is it going to be developed soon? I know some residents in that area were fighting the developers at a meeting as there are many horse farms and the residents wanted it to remain rural. The developers than said they would put in trails for the horseback riders to utilize. Also, they were worried about flooding as the last subdivision that was put in on the other side of Farrell caused flooding in some families back yards.
Lockport Opinion

Wheaton, IL

#4 Sep 30, 2008
I'm not sure, but the lot on Farrell Road across from the entrance to Broken Arrow has had several owners/developers over the years that have put up signs, developed plans, opened sales offices and all have failed because it is in Fairmont. Luckily for these builders/developers, they never started moving dirt.

This could just be another builder that didn't do their due dilligence before starting a project and if that is the case, it could very easily sit empty. One of the builders that bought the land where Lago Vista is now tried to quietly redistrict the land into District 91 many years ago, but once the school got wind of it, the deal was dead. The school was already overcrowded at the time and the builder knew they couldn't sell houses in Fairmont. This was probably 10 years ago and builders still haven't learned.

New construction is not going well in good areas and the housing market stinks. When you see big builders pulling out of neighborhoods and closing up shop like Neumann homes, you know there is a problem out there. Those guys built 100's of homes a year and then just closed the doors one day and there were many others. It doesn't look good. Who is the builder? Have you tried calling them?

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Since: Sep 08

L-Town

#5 Sep 30, 2008
Lockport Opinion wrote:
I'm not sure, but the lot on Farrell Road across from the entrance to Broken Arrow has had several owners/developers over the years that have put up signs, developed plans, opened sales offices and all have failed because it is in Fairmont. Luckily for these builders/developers, they never started moving dirt.
This could just be another builder that didn't do their due dilligence before starting a project and if that is the case, it could very easily sit empty. One of the builders that bought the land where Lago Vista is now tried to quietly redistrict the land into District 91 many years ago, but once the school got wind of it, the deal was dead. The school was already overcrowded at the time and the builder knew they couldn't sell houses in Fairmont. This was probably 10 years ago and builders still haven't learned.
New construction is not going well in good areas and the housing market stinks. When you see big builders pulling out of neighborhoods and closing up shop like Neumann homes, you know there is a problem out there. Those guys built 100's of homes a year and then just closed the doors one day and there were many others. It doesn't look good. Who is the builder? Have you tried calling them?
That I do not know, I will have to check into it! It seems like such a waste (and possibly) a hazard with all that pavement laid and water and sewer lines in without being used at all. Plus there are at least 2 retention ponds there as well.
Lockport Guy

Villa Park, IL

#6 Sep 30, 2008
http://www.tcbdevelopment.com/pg.118.139.871_...

Is the development you talking about. TCB Development is the same company that is suppose to be building the Target/Home Depot, and thats going nowhere fast.
Lockport Dude

Lockport, IL

#7 Sep 30, 2008
Seriously, if those pesky workers and giant pieces of machinery would just go away!!! These posts would have so much more believability!!! Its a good thing my eyes are still functioning as I drive by the site.

There was only a 20-30 large peices of equiptment and maybe a hundred or so workers out there today and one large masonry building going up to the West and another was breaking ground to the East. That site is going nowhere fast...it's practically a cornfield.

I am happy about the progress...any progress in this economy:-) The much touted Mall of America down the road in new Lenox was just declared a cornfield...forever...this site is not...unless you read it here.
Lockport Guy wrote:
http://www.tcbdevelopment.com/ pg.118.139.871_766_621.aspx?li stItemID=12932&listFilter= FH
Is the development you talking about. TCB Development is the same company that is suppose to be building the Target/Home Depot, and thats going nowhere fast.
Lockport Opinion

Wheaton, IL

#8 Oct 1, 2008
Lockport Dude wrote:
Seriously, if those pesky workers and giant pieces of machinery would just go away!!! These posts would have so much more believability!!! Its a good thing my eyes are still functioning as I drive by the site.
There was only a 20-30 large peices of equiptment and maybe a hundred or so workers out there today and one large masonry building going up to the West and another was breaking ground to the East. That site is going nowhere fast...it's practically a cornfield.
I am happy about the progress...any progress in this economy:-) The much touted Mall of America down the road in new Lenox was just declared a cornfield...forever...this site is not...unless you read it here.
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Thanks for the update Mayor Murphy, but those are small outbuildings being built, not Target, Home Depot or Lowes. Why doesn't the city or the press get involved in this and tell everyone the truth (whatever that is) so all of this speculating and rumors could end.
Lockport Guy

Homer Glen, IL

#9 Oct 1, 2008
Lockport Dude wrote:
Seriously, if those pesky workers and giant pieces of machinery would just go away!!! These posts would have so much more believability!!! Its a good thing my eyes are still functioning as I drive by the site.
There was only a 20-30 large peices of equiptment and maybe a hundred or so workers out there today and one large masonry building going up to the West and another was breaking ground to the East. That site is going nowhere fast...it's practically a cornfield.
I am happy about the progress...any progress in this economy:-) The much touted Mall of America down the road in new Lenox was just declared a cornfield...forever...this site is not...unless you read it here.
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Ok Mayor Murphy, I mean Mr Dude why does it take a year and half to do site work....I drive past there every day and I count maybe 25-30 people there and not working on any type of building...just let your residents know that you failed and can not follow through with the rest of Lockport Square...its ok it wont be your problem much longer beacue your almost out of office.
Lockport Dude

Lockport, IL

#10 Oct 1, 2008
Lockport Guy wrote:
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Ok Mayor Murphy, I mean Mr Dude why does it take a year and half to do site work....I drive past there every day and I count maybe 25-30 people there and not working on any type of building...just let your residents know that you failed and can not follow through with the rest of Lockport Square...its ok it wont be your problem much longer beacue your almost out of office.
Wow!!! I guess if I'm someone important then that would make you somebody important...You must be the Mayor's Lex Luther...I like role playing. I would like to be someone more important if were goona pretend Like maybe Larry Walsh.

These are offically some high level discussions!
Lkpt Homerowner Also

AOL

#11 Oct 1, 2008
Lockport Dude wrote:
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Wow!!! I guess if I'm someone important then that would make you somebody important...You must be the Mayor's Lex Luther...I like role playing. I would like to be someone more important if were goona pretend Like maybe Larry Walsh.
These are offically some high level discussions!
They called you the mayor NOT someone important. There is a differnce.

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Since: Sep 08

L-Town

#12 Oct 2, 2008
Lockport Guy wrote:
http://www.tcbdevelopment.com/ pg.118.139.871_766_621.aspx?li stItemID=12932&listFilter= FH
Is the development you talking about. TCB Development is the same company that is suppose to be building the Target/Home Depot, and thats going nowhere fast.
It doesnt look like that page has been updated recently at all! I really hope they scratch that project! Thanks so much for the info!

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Since: Sep 08

L-Town

#13 Oct 2, 2008
Lockport Guy wrote:
http://www.tcbdevelopment.com/ pg.118.139.871_766_621.aspx?li stItemID=12932&listFilter= FH
Is the development you talking about. TCB Development is the same company that is suppose to be building the Target/Home Depot, and thats going nowhere fast.
Also, if you pull op the site plan on that link there is a lighter grey portion that shows a road ending in someones backyard! Why is that portion lighter than the others? They should be required to put up some sort of fencing to separate the yards as (if im not mistaken) those families have horses and such and have all been living there a very long time (save for the one property that was bought last year and now there are horses and sheep there). The plans are a joke IMHO considering all the families with horses and other animals right next door. The large L shaped land I know for a fact has a VERY large barn back in the corner with many sheep and horses. So basically 5 or 6 homeowners would open their windows to the lovely odor of horse and sheep every morning! LOL
It figures---

Lemont, IL

#14 Nov 1, 2008
Herald News today.
Families to start moving in to Liberty Meadow Estates, a subdivision that may be the future of public housing
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November 1, 2008
By BOB OKON Staff Writer
JOLIET -- Henry Morris walks from room to room in the 1,725-square-foot, three-bedroom, single-family detached ranch home called The Barber model, and it's obvious that the world of public housing has changed.
Morris is executive director of the Housing Authority of Joliet, and The Barber (named after Housing Authority board Chairwoman Susie Barber) is the model home being shown at the authority's new Liberty Meadow Estates subdivision.
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Jesus Garcia (left) and his brother, Pedro Garcia, with Beary Landscaping, roll out mats of grass seed in the parkway park at the Joliet Housing Authority's Liberty Meadow Estates development on Briggs Street in Joliet. Renters will begin moving into the new single family homes and duplexes in a few weeks.
LIZ WILKINSON ALLEN/STAFF PHOTOGRAPHER
"To be very honest, I wish I could get one," Morris said of the new houses. "It shows how much progress public housing has made."
The first 20 families are expected to move into Liberty Meadow Estates during the second week of November. The subdivision is at Briggs and Rosalind streets.
Mixed-income housing
The subdivision is what is called mixed-income housing. The concept is aimed at creating public housing for working people with low to moderate incomes who otherwise could not afford a house.
One big difference in Liberty Meadow is that about 90 percent of the people moving into the homes are working, Morris said. In a traditional public housing apartment complex, about 90 percent are unemployed, he said.
"In this development," he said, "we have a preference for working families."
Residents move into homes on a rent-to-own basis. The homes have to be rented for at least 15 years before they can be purchased.
Rents are set based on income levels. Depending on income and the type of house, monthly rents range from $588 to $1,273.
Residents can be evicted for offenses including criminal activity or not keeping up their property.
Applicants with felony records are not accepted.
The Housing Authority has had more than 400 applicants for 38 single-family homes and 36 duplex units opening in the development's first phase.
Most applicants have been on the lower end of the income scales accepted by the Housing Authority.
There are four income categories, ranging from 30 percent to 60 percent of average median income. A family of four can earn up to $22,620 to qualify at the 30 percent level. At the 60 percent level, a family of four can earn up to $45,240. A certain number of houses are reserved for people in all four income categories.
Attracting higher-income residents has been a challenge, Morris said. But he believes that will change as more people see the subdivision.
Opportunity knocks
Seeing the homes makes a difference, said Michael Simelton, chief operating officer for region one of the Housing Authority.
Simelton tells the story of one couple who had seen Liberty Meadow Estates going up.
"They thought it would be nice to live there," Simelton said, but the couple knew they could not qualify for a mortgage. Once the "Leasing Opportunities" sign went up, he said, "That's when they decided,'Here's an opportunity to lease a house.'"

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