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nobias

Lemont, IL

#42 Jul 5, 2012
public enemy number one wrote:
The taxpayer in this town needs to know exactly where EVERY DOLLAR HAS GONE SINCE THE TURNER GANG TOOK HOLD OF THEIR MONEY! NO MORE EXCUSES, LET THE TOWNSPEOPLE KNOW THE FACTS. LET THE TOWNSPEOPLE KNOW WHERE EVERY PENNY IS GOING AND HAS GONE. LET THE TOWNSPEOPLE LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THIS TOWN (THAT IS IF THEY CAN SEE AROUND THE LIMBS AND TREES THAT ARE ALL PILED UP)
You want to know where the dollars went ??? Very easy...it's called FOIA....Freedom Of Information Act. Submit whatever specific request you have to City Hall....you will get your answers. One place you WILL NOT get accurate answers is from this forum ,which is inundated with blowhards and complainers always asking for answers when they know they won't get any ! It's always the same old crap....the "turner gang"....the henchmen....the "majority" this ...the majority that.... If any of you want the REAL FACTS...submit an FOIA request to the City staff and you will receive "accurate" information. Where the hell were all you "accountants" during the last 10 or 20 years asking where "every last penny went" or "why the streets were not fixed" ...or "where is my tax money going" ????? I know...you all were nowhere to be found. None of you will EVER get REAL FACTS on this silly forum. One thing is certain....NONE OF YOU COMPLAINERS will make the effort to send in an FOIA request.....cause if you did..and you got an "ANSWER"...you would'nt have anything to bitch about.
Thanks for nothing

Lockport, IL

#43 Jul 5, 2012
nobias wrote:
<quoted text> You want to know where the dollars went ??? Very easy...it's called FOIA....Freedom Of Information Act. Submit whatever specific request you have to City Hall....you will get your answers. One place you WILL NOT get accurate answers is from this forum ,which is inundated with blowhards and complainers always asking for answers when they know they won't get any ! It's always the same old crap....the "turner gang"....the henchmen....the "majority" this ...the majority that.... If any of you want the REAL FACTS...submit an FOIA request to the City staff and you will receive "accurate" information. Where the hell were all you "accountants" during the last 10 or 20 years asking where "every last penny went" or "why the streets were not fixed" ...or "where is my tax money going" ????? I know...you all were nowhere to be found. None of you will EVER get REAL FACTS on this silly forum. One thing is certain....NONE OF YOU COMPLAINERS will make the effort to send in an FOIA request.....cause if you did..and you got an "ANSWER"...you would'nt have anything to bitch about.
We do not listen to your preaching so stop when you are ahead. We do not want any of your excuses. We do not file foia's and let you know who we are. You are full of it. You and your gang have meant your waterloo come election time. You know it and we know it! You do not give answers at the meetings when asked by residents. You want to know who your rivals are...wait until election time. The other councils did not act like this council with their own special people. The other councils were fair and went out for bid. This council has pay back time. We know more than you think we know. Have a great evening thinking about some more lies! You were elected to serve, not lie and if you had told people about the fact of no bid contracts, your own lawyers, payback to keep silent of forty thousand plus, you would not have been elected. This is also just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much you have to answer for, and it will not surprise you to get beat again at the election. You have many, many defeats under YOUR belt. The cronies or bobbleheads are going down at election time. Don't want to hear it, good. We don't want to hear your garbage either.
nobias

Lemont, IL

#44 Jul 5, 2012
Thanks for nothing wrote:
<quoted text> We do not listen to your preaching so stop when you are ahead. We do not want any of your excuses. We do not file foia's and let you know who we are. You are full of it. You and your gang have meant your waterloo come election time. You know it and we know it! You do not give answers at the meetings when asked by residents. You want to know who your rivals are...wait until election time. The other councils did not act like this council with their own special people. The other councils were fair and went out for bid. This council has pay back time. We know more than you think we know. Have a great evening thinking about some more lies! You were elected to serve, not lie and if you had told people about the fact of no bid contracts, your own lawyers, payback to keep silent of forty thousand plus, you would not have been elected. This is also just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much you have to answer for, and it will not surprise you to get beat again at the election. You have many, many defeats under YOUR belt. The cronies or bobbleheads are going down at election time. Don't want to hear it, good. We don't want to hear your garbage either.
Well...I am not Napoleon...so Waterloo does not apply..but thanks for making me an emperor ! So you are worried that if you submit an FOIA for the REAL FACTS...."someone" will find out who you are !!!!! Wow....and what may I ask do you think will happen ??? YOU ARE A TAXPAYER..YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK THE CITY STAFF...ie. The Finance Director..the City Manager....for ACCURATE information not the city council members. The TRUE financial data is known FULLY by the Finance Director...who is NOT a vengeful person or a criminal. He is VERY KNOWLEGEABLE on the City's finances...including contracts, salaries and ALL the budgeted items. Are you saying he is a crook....an embezzler...or a "bobblehead" ??????? Stop wasting your own precious time and TAKE the time to submit an FOIA....you will feel much better ! And please do worry about "being found out". It might be a very liberating experience !! I did it twice and received very interesting information on salaries, overtime pay and much more. If you do not.....you may find that iceberg you are toting around will melt very quickly !! Remember...."Ignorance is Bliss" so you must be one happy person !! Whine On !!!!
Thanks for nothing

Lockport, IL

#45 Jul 5, 2012
nobias wrote:
<quoted text> Well...I am not Napoleon...so Waterloo does not apply..but thanks for making me an emperor ! So you are worried that if you submit an FOIA for the REAL FACTS...."someone" will find out who you are !!!!! Wow....and what may I ask do you think will happen ??? YOU ARE A TAXPAYER..YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK THE CITY STAFF...ie. The Finance Director..the City Manager....for ACCURATE information not the city council members. The TRUE financial data is known FULLY by the Finance Director...who is NOT a vengeful person or a criminal. He is VERY KNOWLEGEABLE on the City's finances...including contracts, salaries and ALL the budgeted items. Are you saying he is a crook....an embezzler...or a "bobblehead" ??????? Stop wasting your own precious time and TAKE the time to submit an FOIA....you will feel much better ! And please do worry about "being found out". It might be a very liberating experience !! I did it twice and received very interesting information on salaries, overtime pay and much more. If you do not.....you may find that iceberg you are toting around will melt very quickly !! Remember...."Ignorance is Bliss" so you must be one happy person !! Whine On !!!!
I am happier than you are! Stop wasting our time with your excuses as you are going nowhere. I do not need your preaching so save your breath. You are a disgrace and the voters will verify that. You are a failure! As you said, your ignorance is bliss! Preach on! We do not care! You cannot pull your ploys on us, old guy! How are your bobbleheads? Have you made your phone calls yet? What instructions did they get? How many more studies are you doing? I am not and you know it talking about the administrator, we are talking about the slimy five.
The twister Kelly

Lockport, IL

#46 Jul 5, 2012
nobias wrote:
<quoted text> Well...I am not Napoleon...so Waterloo does not apply..but thanks for making me an emperor ! So you are worried that if you submit an FOIA for the REAL FACTS...."someone" will find out who you are !!!!! Wow....and what may I ask do you think will happen ??? YOU ARE A TAXPAYER..YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK THE CITY STAFF...ie. The Finance Director..the City Manager....for ACCURATE information not the city council members. The TRUE financial data is known FULLY by the Finance Director...who is NOT a vengeful person or a criminal. He is VERY KNOWLEGEABLE on the City's finances...including contracts, salaries and ALL the budgeted items. Are you saying he is a crook....an embezzler...or a "bobblehead" ??????? Stop wasting your own precious time and TAKE the time to submit an FOIA....you will feel much better ! And please do worry about "being found out". It might be a very liberating experience !! I did it twice and received very interesting information on salaries, overtime pay and much more. If you do not.....you may find that iceberg you are toting around will melt very quickly !! Remember...."Ignorance is Bliss" so you must be one happy person !! Whine On !!!!
Stop.....Stop....Stop Twisting people's words as you did in your article to the Legend. You are insanely unpopular! You are going to lose in any election for any office you run for....that is a surety! You are an old politician that has seen better days and we do not want you in office! Stop thinking you are important! You are not! In a few months at election time, you are going to get another defeat for yourself and defeats for your cronies! Whine on, old man! We do not like your under the table politics. The administrator is doing what he has to do. YOU RAN ALL THE QUALIFIED EMPLOYEES OUT THE DOOR! WHAT A DISGRACE! There are not too many people like you, thankfully, in this life. You .... are a carpetbagger....and Lockport is too good for you! Go somewhere else! Whine on, and answer this you twister, name changer, isp changer. Stop!!!!!!!

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