Amid Russian push to recast history, Russian historian blames P...

As the Kremlin presses a campaign to recast Russia's 20th century history in a more favorable light, a research paper published Thursday on the Defense Ministry's Web site blamed Poland for starting World War II .

[Edgewater]

This is troubling - yet, somehow, not surprising at all given the recent political climate there.

[Lukashenko is Dr Phil]

Maybe they are trying to make germans feel good because they need help from the krauts during the economic crisis?

[Skin flute]

Take this.

[Dr Lecter]

Hello Topix Friends,

Bolshevik Russia and Nazi Germany partnered to conquer and divide Poland and thus triggered WWII in 1939.

Russia, as Nazi Germany's partner started WWII.

Russa routinely distorts and fabricates "Russia's history" to serve its own imperial purposes.

H

[semper39]

Next the Russians will be telling us that thousands of Polish officers committed mass suicide in the Katyn Forest.

The Russians are pathetic but they are matched by the Japanese who strip their history books of all references to Nanking and their other war crimes.

[Dr Lecter]

semper39 wrote:

Next the Russians will be telling us that thousands of Polish officers committed mass suicide in the Katyn Forest.
The Russians are pathetic but they are matched by the Japanese who strip their history books of all references to Nanking and their other war crimes.

Yes, It's amazing that the US Department of Justice's Office of Special Investigations has never gone after a Japanese war criminal.

H

[semper39]

Dr Lecter wrote:

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Yes, It's amazing that the US Department of Justice's Office of Special Investigations has never gone after a Japanese war criminal.
H

They only go after war criminals who have relocated to the U.S. I guess the Jap war criminals stayed in Japan.

[Dr Lecter]

semper39 wrote:

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They only go after war criminals who have relocated to the U.S. I guess the Jap war criminals stayed in Japan.

I wonder if business with Japan had anything to do with it.

[Dr Lecter]

Here's a Russian genocide Churchill tried to hush up....

The genocide Britain hushed up: A new film tells the terrible story of Stalin's own Final Solution - and Churchill's shameful complicity
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11953...

H

[Dr Lecter]

Hello Topix friends,

In spite of other shortcomings, President Yushchenko, to his credit, has been valiant in defending Ukraine;'s right to its own undistorted history, which was smothered by three centuries of Russian colonialism, Russian chauvinism, Russian imperialism. and Russian genocide in Ukraine.

This Saturday marks the 300th anniversary of the Battle of Poltava, where the heroic Ivan Mazepa, the subject of many cultural masterworks, including the poem by Byron, tried to break Ukraine free of Peter I's of Muscovy-Russia's genocidal grip of slavery....

Mazepa, the hero, is comparable to the first U.S. President George Washington, who fought Britain's King George III for America's independence.

Ukraine, Russia battle over shared history
By MARIA DANILOVA
Associated Press
2009-06-26 07:43 PM

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.p...

Ta-ta

H

[lawless cat]

Skin flute wrote:

Take this.

haha.. funny stuff!

[Dr Lecter]

Hello Topix friends and hello to that weird allinace of Stalinists, Putinists, NASHI Putinjugend, Russian chauvinists, Russian neofascists, Russian racists and other assortedriff-raff on the Russia forum,

Russia is the kegal successor to the Russian Bolshevik empire and is responsible for all of Russia's acts of colonialism and imperialism.

Russia shamelessly rationalizes its policy of genocides and engages in decades of elaborate and costly disinformation campaigns to keep Russia's genocides secret.

Russia has continually resorted to genocide, e.g. against Belarusans, the Crimean Tatars, and now the Chechens, to keep its empire intact.

Russian imbecilities and idiocies regarding Ukraine and its people --and its heroes like Ivan Mazepa-- are the norm from Putinist Russia.

Russia's new historiography incorporates additional Russian chauvinists, such as White Army General Anton Denikin.

Putin's recent reference to Denikin's description of Russia and Ukraine as "great" and "little" Russia shows the degree to which these insulting Russian views of Ukraine remain deep seated.

Putin's insulting use of "little Russia" deliberately and purposefully infuriated all shades of Ukrainian opinion.

As Ukrainian historians pointed out, Denikin hated the idea pf Ukrainian independence more than he did the Bolsheviks, and this was his undoing.

Denikin's march on Moscow was foiled by uprisings in Ukraine, where his forces terrorized everything Ukrainian by means of atrocities and massacres.

Memoirs published in the West after the Russian revolution by white Russian émigrés described "Ukrainian separatism" as an "Austrian" plot against Russia.

"Ukrainian separatism" in the 1990's evolved into a "Western plot," while two thirds of Russians in January 2005 believed that the Orange Revolution was an "American conspiracy."

Russia's views of Ukraine's "artificiality" and "fragility" remain deeply rooted within the Russian mindset, and explain the state orchestrated campaign depicting Ukraine as a "failed state" that requires international supervision.

Putin described Ukraine as an "artificial" entity with lands given to it by Russia and the USSR during his speech to the NATO-Russia Council in Bucharest in April 2008.

The March 16 issue of Russian political scientist Gleb Pavlovsky's Ruskyi Zhurnal was devoted to "Will Ukraine Lose its Sovereignty?" (www.russ.ru ).

Russians can disparage Ukraine all they want --but they are increasingly marginalized by their xenophobic toxicity and pathologies and Russia is seen seen for the exploitive, parasitic and genocidal empire that it is.

Ukraine has every right to assert its sovereignty, its own truth and history which Russia spent millions of dollars trying to suppress and which Russia murdered and terrorized millions to colonize and exploit Ukraine.

H

[Red]

Dr Lecter wrote:

Hello Topix friends and hello to that weird allinace of Stalinists, Putinists, NASHI Putinjugend, Russian chauvinists, Russian neofascists, Russian racists and other assortedriff-raff on the Russia forum,
Russia is the kegal successor to the Russian Bolshevik empire and is responsible for all of Russia's acts of colonialism and imperialism.
Russia shamelessly rationalizes its policy of genocides and engages in decades of elaborate and costly disinformation campaigns to keep Russia's genocides secret.
Russia has continually resorted to genocide, e.g. against Belarusans, the Crimean Tatars, and now the Chechens, to keep its empire intact.
Russian imbecilities and idiocies regarding Ukraine and its people --and its heroes like Ivan Mazepa-- are the norm from Putinist Russia.
Russia's new historiography incorporates additional Russian chauvinists, such as White Army General Anton Denikin.
Putin's recent reference to Denikin's description of Russia and Ukraine as "great" and "little" Russia shows the degree to which these insulting Russian views of Ukraine remain deep seated.
Putin's insulting use of "little Russia" deliberately and purposefully infuriated all shades of Ukrainian opinion.
As Ukrainian historians pointed out, Denikin hated the idea pf Ukrainian independence more than he did the Bolsheviks, and this was his undoing.
Denikin's march on Moscow was foiled by uprisings in Ukraine, where his forces terrorized everything Ukrainian by means of atrocities and massacres.
Memoirs published in the West after the Russian revolution by white Russian émigrés described "Ukrainian separatism" as an "Austrian" plot against Russia.
"Ukrainian separatism" in the 1990's evolved into a "Western plot," while two thirds of Russians in January 2005 believed that the Orange Revolution was an "American conspiracy."
Russia's views of Ukraine's "artificiality" and "fragility" remain deeply rooted within the Russian mindset, and explain the state orchestrated campaign depicting Ukraine as a "failed state" that requires international supervision.
Putin described Ukraine as an "artificial" entity with lands given to it by Russia and the USSR during his speech to the NATO-Russia Council in Bucharest in April 2008.
The March 16 issue of Russian political scientist Gleb Pavlovsky's Ruskyi Zhurnal was devoted to "Will Ukraine Lose its Sovereignty?" (www.russ.ru ).
Russians can disparage Ukraine all they want --but they are increasingly marginalized by their xenophobic toxicity and pathologies and Russia is seen seen for the exploitive, parasitic and genocidal empire that it is.
Ukraine has every right to assert its sovereignty, its own truth and history which Russia spent millions of dollars trying to suppress and which Russia murdered and terrorized millions to colonize and exploit Ukraine.
H

Putin's Russia continues to stonewall research on Bolshevik genociders and criminals:

British academics protest after Russia closes down history website
Move reflects official efforts to rewrite Stalin's role and to cover up Nazi-Soviet pact
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/13/r...

[Kilgore Trout]

I Warsaw, they have a saying for Russian history...

"Govna Pravda"

[Red]

Kilgore Trout wrote:

I Warsaw, they have a saying for Russian history...
"Govna Pravda"

Imperial Russia's pathology requires itself to reinvent its delusional Russian history because the truth is too horrible.

[Sir Quercus]

Red wrote:

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Imperial Russia's pathology requires itself to reinvent its delusional Russian history because the truth is too horrible.

Maybe. Although Russian leaders being traditionally paranoid may have something to do with it too. the only exception being Trotsky.