Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

[Cool Hand Luke]

Read them and Weep!
The BoyScouts said No homosexual Scout leaders or members and as you know homosexuals lost the Supreme Court case. The case that claimed your constitutional rights were being violated.
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Brenda Lee Johnson Posted:
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Despite protests, Boy Scouts reaffirm policy on homosexuality

July 17, 2012, 3:42 PM

Boy-scouts After a confidential two-year review, the Boy Scouts of America on Tuesday emphatically reaffirmed its membership policy, which excludes gays from both membership and leadership.
The Scouts cited support from parents as a key reason for keeping the policy and expressed hope that the prolonged debate over it might now subside.

The Scouts’ national spokesman, Deron Smith, told The Associated Press that an 11-member special committee, formed discreetly by top Scout leaders in 2010, came to the conclusion that the exclusion policy “is absolutely the best policy” for the 112-year-old organization.

Smith said the committee, comprised of professional scout executives and adult volunteers, was unanimous in its conclusion – preserving a long-standing policy that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 and has remained controversial ever since.
The Scouts’ chief executive, Bob Mazzuca, contended that most Scout families support the policy, which applies to both adult leaders and Scouts.

“The vast majority of the parents of youth we serve value their right to address issues of same-sex orientation within their family, with spiritual advisers and at the appropriate time and in the right setting,” Mazzuca said.“We fully understand that no single policy will accommodate the many diverse views among our membership or society.”
The Boy Scouts’ policy stands in contrast to that of Girl Scouts of the USA, which allows openly gay leaders.
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I wonder what multiple acts of molestation lead to that decision?
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Colorado, Longmont - 12/2/2011
Ex-Boy Scout Charged with Child Sexual Assault
A former volunteer at San Isabel Boy Scout Ranch has been bound over for trial for sexual assault on a child in Longmont, and law-enforcement officials are worried there could be more victims from the camp.

James Rienholdt "Butch" Cahill, 56, of Leadville is free on $100,000 bail after a preliminary hearing in Longmont on Thursday. He is charged with one count of sexual assault on a child by one in a position of trust, said Longmont police Detective Stacey Graham.
"We have one charge, but multiple people have stepped forward against Cahill," she said Thursday by phone. Graham said that three alleged victims, in addition to the boy he has been charged with assaulting, are from the Longmont area.

Cahill was a volunteer at the ranch for about 10 years, as recently as last summer, according to a letter sent to more than 240 families of Scouts who attended the camp over the past decade, notifying them of the former archery/shooting instructor’s charges and asking whether any scouts had been victimized.

"We are concerned because of the longtime abuse of his victim here," Satur said. "The boy he is charged with abusing was 8 when it began and it continued until the boy was 13. Because of the nature of these crimes, and Cahill's history, we're worried about his time at the Scout camp. "Unfortunately, we would not be surprised if there were more victims."

Cahill’s 20-page arrest affidavit paints a pattern of years of sexual abuse on a boy, now 15, and similar abuse on a now 39-year-old man. Longmont police said the statute of limitations has passed when it comes to prosecuting Cahill in the older case.
Graham said Cahill is divorced, with one biological daughter and stepsons.

Jeff Berger, executive director of the Boy Scouts’ Rocky Mountain Council since last year, said he didn’t know Cahill and that Cahill quit working at the ranch mid-season.“We were shocked to hear of the allegations against James. The alleged allegations are not representative of the principles and ideals of the Boy Scouts of America”, Berger said.

[2BHCeeOh]

You've all gone mad. Mad I tell ya!

[really]

MAD is the perfect word!!!

[LeaderOfThePack2]

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

He swore to get me kicked off topix after I outed him for pretending to be a woman.
"You Know Luke, I used to be like you, 4 kids and the mini van, hilarious!
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Hmmm can you show me where you outed me for being a man? Do you have any proof of this? This morning when I showered I still had all my woman parts...ya know 50 years ago I was born a woman I have always been a woman, nothing has changed that I know of. Hubby says I still had woman parts last night LOL! When did I become a man?

I am nothing like you Puke, you see I am an honest, compassionate and sane human being - and a woman, nothing like you at all! I never once said I was like you - I did say I knew your type and spent much time with them in a fundie church.

I thought for sure you finally gave up posting here, since the mods remove 99% of your posts.

Who said Beetlejuice?

[Marengo Jon]

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/12/opini...

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/05/10/opinio...

"There is no way to stop it. There has never been a time where people can deny rights to other people. It may work for a while but it will never work forever."

http://www.nesl.edu/userfiles/file/lawreview/...

Still civilly united, 13 months. Still not a GD thing you haters can do about it. Suck it up, beehotches, and recognize that it's already game over.

The beauty, of the human experience, is that civilizations evolve over time. We're not the same people that we were 8000 years ago.

[dont agree]

This is crap No gays should not marry nor should they have children it is wrong. Being gay is a Choice agod would never make u that way. You can bitch all u want and say oh I knew when I was a kid myself well guess what that's bullshit unless ur parents or friends put it in ur head...BEING GAY IS A CHOICE!! Once ppl realize there is no gay gene so quit lookin for it that is just an excuse to munch on carpet and get it up the ass . No innocent child should have to grow up in a screwed up house with 2 moms or 2 dads.....YUCK!!!

[dont agree]

pterodactyl wrote:

Marriage is between a man and a woman...it's as simple as that. It's all about husband and wife not sex partners. True love has nothing to do with recreational sex.

I agree 100 % MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. GOD MADE US IN HIS IMAGE...IS GOD GAY NO!!! It was ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!!

[Get over yourself]

pterodactyl wrote:

Marriage is between a man and a woman...it's as simple as that. It's all about husband and wife not sex partners. True love has nothing to do with recreational sex.

And who are you to define what "True Love" is. There are MANY MANY man and woman sex partners. Love doesnt exist just because there is a man and a woman. Not everyone has your beliefs and others shouldnt be forced to have them. You don't want their beliefs forced upon you. Live and let live. A man loving a man and a woman loving a woman is doing nothing to you. Let them live their lives as they see fit. It has absolutely nothing to do with you and your life. We all know what opinions are like......

[Max]

Get over yourself wrote:

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And who are you to define what "True Love" is. There are MANY MANY man and woman sex partners. Love doesnt exist just because there is a man and a woman. Not everyone has your beliefs and others shouldnt be forced to have them. You don't want their beliefs forced upon you. Live and let live. A man loving a man and a woman loving a woman is doing nothing to you. Let them live their lives as they see fit. It has absolutely nothing to do with you and your life. We all know what opinions are like......

Then don't try to force yourselves on everybody. I don't care what you do. That dosen't mean I agree with it. Practice what you preach. Anyone that takes part in such hideous conduct can't possibly think that is normal but I could care less if you all just form a big daisy chain and bugger till your heart's content.

[KiMare]

Marengo Jon wrote:

http://articles.latimes.com/20 12/feb/12/opinion/la-oe-klarma n-gay-marriage-and-the-courts- 20120212
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/05/10/opinio...
"There is no way to stop it. There has never been a time where people can deny rights to other people. It may work for a while but it will never work forever."
http://www.nesl.edu/userfiles/file/lawreview/...
Still civilly united, 13 months. Still not a GD thing you haters can do about it. Suck it up, beehotches, and recognize that it's already game over.
The beauty, of the human experience, is that civilizations evolve over time. We're not the same people that we were 8000 years ago.

LA Times;

Gay 'marriage' is a given because;

#1 Furiously pushing the gay agenda has influenced acceptance.

*Forget that it was accomplished by being powerfully deceptive...

This has resulted in more people knowing a homosexual.

*Feeling sorry for someone is hardly a good or healthy reason to make a idiotic and ridiculous redefinition of marriage.

#2 Young people strongly support gay 'marriage'.

*Forget the voices of wisdom and experience, gays will settle for a car salesman swindle of the young and ignorant.

CBS Detroit;

The author starts by saying he has no idea why people oppose gay 'marriage'. This right after he says,“Let their be no confusion”... He than goes on to make a blatantly false doctrinal statement about Christianity and doctrine. Zero for two so far. It only gets worse. He connects dots that don't connect, reconstructs history while ignoring the applicable history lesson. Old people are racist and ignorant. They need to answer to their kids AND grand kids.

He concludes by saying he doesn't understand the debate at all. FINALLY, a accurate statement!

Lesbian Lawyer;

Legal distortion with ponderous pontification.

Marengo, have you EVER heard of critical thinking???

Seriously, this is the best you got???

Finally, this is the most significant lesson of history; We ARE our parents. And their parents. Far past 8000 years.

Gay marriage has NEVER survived, that is what is inevitable.

Smile.

[KiMare]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/opinion/pro ...

Scouts has always been segregated because of sexual orientation. Common sense dictates it. No one is stopping the establishment of gay Scouts.

We already are seeing the consequences of mixing genders in the military. It is ignorant denial to think the same and worse consequences won't occur with homosexual orientation mixed. They still don't allow coed barracks, but they do with homosexuals.

[Just Think]

dont agree wrote:

This is crap No gays should not marry nor should they have children it is wrong. Being gay is a Choice agod would never make u that way. You can bitch all u want and say oh I knew when I was a kid myself well guess what that's bullshit unless ur parents or friends put it in ur head...BEING GAY IS A CHOICE!! Once ppl realize there is no gay gene so quit lookin for it that is just an excuse to munch on carpet and get it up the ass . No innocent child should have to grow up in a screwed up house with 2 moms or 2 dads.....YUCK!!!

Every legitimate major medical and psychological organization in the world disagrees with your bizarre view that homosexuality is a choice. Please feel free to join us in the 21st century...

[Just Think]

dont agree wrote:

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I agree 100 % MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. GOD MADE US IN HIS IMAGE...IS GOD GAY NO!!! It was ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!!

There is no god and religion has no place in a discussion of law.

[nfgc]

KiMare wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/mi 07/20/opinion/pro...
Scouts has always been segregated because of sexual orientation. Common sense dictates it. No one is stopping the establishment of gay Scouts.
We already are seeing the consequences of mixing genders in the military. It is ignorant denial to think the same and worse consequences won't occur with homosexual orientation mixed. They still don't allow coed barracks, but they do with homosexuals.

You are incorrect. They DO allow coed barracks, I am a soldier and live in one. Coed barracks started around 1997 for the US Army. It takes mores rules and regs and eyes and ears but it works. I also gay soldiers here that cause NO issued. The issues caused are straight soldiers and these are only personal biases. Even if the law changes to allow gay marriage there will always be people that don't agree. There are still people that think we should enslave people, that women shouldn't have as many rights, that women have no place in the military, etc. This is simply another historical stepping stone for America that will one day be history as gay citizens earn thier rights. It is unconstitutional to deny them of rights. Time changes everything. Just read a history book. Gay couples are not asking you to attend thier marriage, come over for dinner, or tape thier sex. Therefore, not your business. Worry about your own life and let them love who they love.

[nfgc]

Just Think wrote:

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Every legitimate major medical and psychological organization in the world disagrees with your bizarre view that homosexuality is a choice. Please feel free to join us in the 21st century...

Exactly, thank you. People need to do some research before having diarrhea of the mouth. It's personal bias and not intelligent in response. How do they answer to the proof of gay animals? Do they think animals actually made the conscious choice to want to be with the same sex or is it nature and they were born this way? I don't care if it's a choice or if someone was born that way. It's their life to live, not anyone else's. However, I have met plenty of children who are obviously gay. You think they decided it with no prior knowledge to just be that way? No, they are simply being themselves and not afraid to yet.

[KiMare]

nfgc wrote:

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You are incorrect. They DO allow coed barracks, I am a soldier and live in one. Coed barracks started around 1997 for the US Army. It takes mores rules and regs and eyes and ears but it works. I also gay soldiers here that cause NO issued. The issues caused are straight soldiers and these are only personal biases. Even if the law changes to allow gay marriage there will always be people that don't agree. There are still people that think we should enslave people, that women shouldn't have as many rights, that women have no place in the military, etc. This is simply another historical stepping stone for America that will one day be history as gay citizens earn thier rights. It is unconstitutional to deny them of rights. Time changes everything. Just read a history book. Gay couples are not asking you to attend thier marriage, come over for dinner, or tape thier sex. Therefore, not your business. Worry about your own life and let them love who they love.

You are asserting that opposite gender heterosexuals room together just like gays can room with their gender orientation.

Or did you just try a little gay twirling...

[KiMare]

nfgc wrote:

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Exactly, thank you. People need to do some research before having diarrhea of the mouth. It's personal bias and not intelligent in response. How do they answer to the proof of gay animals? Do they think animals actually made the conscious choice to want to be with the same sex or is it nature and they were born this way? I don't care if it's a choice or if someone was born that way. It's their life to live, not anyone else's. However, I have met plenty of children who are obviously gay. You think they decided it with no prior knowledge to just be that way? No, they are simply being themselves and not afraid to yet.

I would suggest you take your own advice about mouth diarrhea. start by getting your info from more than just gay twirl sites...

Then learn the difference between homosexuality in animals (they know very little about the cause,just like with humans) and SSSB (same sex sexual behavior).

[KiMare]

nfgc wrote:

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You are incorrect. They DO allow coed barracks, I am a soldier and live in one. Coed barracks started around 1997 for the US Army. It takes mores rules and regs and eyes and ears but it works. I also gay soldiers here that cause NO issued. The issues caused are straight soldiers and these are only personal biases. Even if the law changes to allow gay marriage there will always be people that don't agree. There are still people that think we should enslave people, that women shouldn't have as many rights, that women have no place in the military, etc. This is simply another historical stepping stone for America that will one day be history as gay citizens earn thier rights. It is unconstitutional to deny them of rights. Time changes everything. Just read a history book. Gay couples are not asking you to attend thier marriage, come over for dinner, or tape thier sex. Therefore, not your business. Worry about your own life and let them love who they love.

Are you really asserting that the military will not have the rape/abuse problems with homosexuals that they already have with heterosexuals?

[Not Yet Equal]

KiMare wrote:

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Are you really asserting that the military will not have the rape/abuse problems with homosexuals that they already have with heterosexuals?

Most people do not rape.

Most can control themselves whether gay, straight, or bi, male or female. Many people work closely with others and even share living quarters with no problems of rape. Rape is not a result of mixing people of different genders or sexual orientations. Blame the rapist, not the situation where the rapist committed his crime. There is no valid excuse for rape.

[Get over yourself]

Max wrote:

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Then don't try to force yourselves on everybody. I don't care what you do. That dosen't mean I agree with it. Practice what you preach. Anyone that takes part in such hideous conduct can't possibly think that is normal but I could care less if you all just form a big daisy chain and bugger till your heart's content.

Force is usually responded too, well, with force. Just sayin. There will never be a complete agreement of everyone on everything, thats just a fact. No reason to get upset over it. I am a heterosexual female, married with children. I do practice what I preach. I do not judge others because of who or what they love or have sex with. I am not hear to judge anyone. It is so much easier to enjoy the many diverse people I know. I have learned so much. Sure we have arguments over what we conceive as right and wrong but I have never let it get in the way of a friendship and never will. Life is too short and I want to enjoy it. I have enough to worry about with my own family I can't worry about how others choose to live their lives.