Cuomo deal for some attorneys in pens...

Cuomo deal for some attorneys in pension scandal

There are 33 comments on the Newsday story from Apr 28, 2008, titled Cuomo deal for some attorneys in pension scandal. In it, Newsday reports that:

A dozen attorneys around the state who may have received credits for state pensions improperly but did not actually collect any money have been offered preliminary settlements by Attorney General Andrew Cuomo's ...

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citizen

Center Moriches, NY

#1 Apr 28, 2008
"The settlement offers have been made to some who apparently are believed by the attorney general's office to be the least egregious violators of the credit system, the sources said."

Permanent bars in this type of work for some of the least egregious violators? Can't be. The veracity and validity of the "sources" must be suspect...
Dogs of War

AOL

#2 Apr 28, 2008
My advice to you.....Run.

Mr. Wooley is a partner at Medina & O'Brien, P.C., of Hawthorne, a law firm specializing in criminal and education law. He is certified by New York State as a special education impartial hearing officer and serves in that capacity for several school districts. He has been a member of the BOCES Board since 1998, and before that, served on the Greenburgh Central 7 Board of Education for seven years.
B Clinton

Englishtown, NJ

#3 Apr 29, 2008
These guys could teach me a thing or two when it comes to spinning a story!

Lawyers, one of life's necessary evils.
anonymous

Yaphank, NY

#4 Apr 29, 2008
Now they want to make a deal. They didn't before throw the book at them anyway.
City

Babylon, NY

#5 Apr 29, 2008
Typical Democrat behavior - cutting a deal so the defendant wont spill the beans about even more corruption.

Throw each one of the mofos in jail period.
punishment

Wayne, NJ

#6 Apr 29, 2008
What's the punishment for the school districts who were all willing participants in these crimes?????
Anonymous

New York, NY

#7 Apr 29, 2008
This is a face-saving measure so that they won't look into the Comptroller's office and how it permitted, indeed, gave its blessing, to these arrangements for many, many years.
Dont Get It

Shoreham, NY

#8 Apr 29, 2008
If the pension credits accrued on the basis of fraud, why shouldn't there be any prosecution of all the parties taking part in the fraud? Conspirators to a crime don't have to actually commit the crime first before the law can prosecute them. Under US law, conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime in itself and is subject to prosecution.
PERFECT TOMMY

White Plains, NY

#9 Apr 29, 2008
Cuz Cuomo got no balls, that is why,
Common Sense

United States

#10 Apr 29, 2008
Why let them off the hook?

Get to the bottom of all the corruption and nepotism in the NY State System before you offer any deal.

Before you offer any deal you need them on the record with the thought of perjury for any lies they may tell. Any deal without getting the whole story is injustice to the people.
damien

Lebanon, NH

#11 Apr 29, 2008
I hope Andrew Cuomo doesn't cave into these lawyers (liars) and get soft on crime. That will cost him.
How does this happen

Forest Hills, NY

#12 Apr 29, 2008
"In several instances, particularly upstate, the sources say, attorneys took pension credits only at the prodding of BOCES officials, whose districts got state reimbursement for attorneys considered as employees."
Uh? So get rid of the officials for misuse of public funds!
And take their pensions away.
Obviously they are incompetent.
pat

AOL

#13 Apr 29, 2008
A DEAL THESE CROOKS NEED TO GO TO JAIL!!! WHY ARE DEALS MADE WITH THEIVES WHO ARE LAWYERS!!!!!
treciama

Middletown, DE

#14 Apr 29, 2008
BIG MISTAKE, CUOMO!! These theives gave no "deal" to the taxpayers. We want FULL justice. Giving these criminals a "break" when the overburdened, fraudulently billed taxpayer never got any kind of a "deal" will not play well for your political future.

If Cuomo caves, I propose he practice saying --"WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU TODAY, GOVERNOR SANDRA PEDDIE?" She's actually done her job with distinction and that should be the criteria for gaining our trust for higher office!
Common Sense

Chesterfield, MO

#15 Apr 29, 2008
Making deals is the wrong message to send to people who might perpetrate a fraud like this in the future, especially until all of this is brought out into the open. Mr. Cuomo you are jeopardizing your jump started political career.
Walt

AOL

#16 Apr 29, 2008
If you owe you payback. If they owe allis forgiven!
taxpayer

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Apr 29, 2008
treciama wrote:
BIG MISTAKE, CUOMO!! These theives gave no "deal" to the taxpayers. We want FULL justice. Giving these criminals a "break" when the overburdened, fraudulently billed taxpayer never got any kind of a "deal" will not play well for your political future.
If Cuomo caves, I propose he practice saying --"WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU TODAY, GOVERNOR SANDRA PEDDIE?" She's actually done her job with distinction and that should be the criteria for gaining our trust for higher office!
I told you there would be no criminal case because there was no fraud or conspiracy. Everybody in the Comptrollers Office and State Retirement Board knew what was going on. Governor wannabe Cuomo needs a face saving plan, so he begins offering "deals". The ball is really in DiNapolis court, since all he needs to do is decertify their pension rights. Since the actual pensions involved are small, most of the attorneys involved will just walk away rather than challenge the decision.
FIGO

Naples, FL

#18 Apr 29, 2008
If ever there was a reason for eliminating BOCES, an entity that is accountable to no one now is the time. Another layer of state fat that does not answer to the taxpayers. They have no transparency about how they bill school districts which means.... taxing the poor slobs that own property and pay property tax.

Abolish BOCES.
treciama

Middletown, DE

#19 Apr 29, 2008
taxpayer wrote:
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I told you there would be no criminal case because there was no fraud or conspiracy. Everybody in the Comptrollers Office and State Retirement Board knew what was going on. Governor wannabe Cuomo needs a face saving plan, so he begins offering "deals". The ball is really in DiNapolis court, since all he needs to do is decertify their pension rights. Since the actual pensions involved are small, most of the attorneys involved will just walk away rather than challenge the decision.
I understand what you're saying and it's justified. If history is the guide, it's hard NOT to be completely cynical about the prospects for full justice being imposed on inside cronies rip off taxpayers. I can only try to try to highlight what taxpayers seem finally to demand and urge those who can require full accountability to do so. If that fails, it's up to the voters who also, based on history, sadly have been completely complascent and asleep at the wheel.

As I've said, this is a test for all involved. If none of the "players" get serious, it's all over for the LI taxpayer. This issue presents the clearest, provable example of how the taxpayers have been systematically defrauded for DECADES--and it's pathetically typical and profoundly disgraceful that no one with the responsibility (and who was paid to do so and/or required to do so as a condition of their professional license) such as school or government officials, politicians, accountants, lawyers, etc.) did a THING to stop the fraud.(THANK YOU AGAIN SANDRA PEDDIE!)

I've tried to advocate for what should be done but I do understand the beaten-down frustration and pessimism you've expressed. Time will tell. The odds may be on your side but if we give up now, it's going to be a permanent tragedy.
treciama

Middletown, DE

#20 Apr 29, 2008
What the hey?? The deleted section in my comment was the abbreviation for et cetera. HUH?

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