Attorney hired by schools rejects sta...

Attorney hired by schools rejects state pension

There are 24 comments on the Newsday story from Apr 12, 2008, titled Attorney hired by schools rejects state pension. In it, Newsday reports that:

A private attorney, who has accrued more than 18 years in the state pension system while also collecting retainer fees from libraries and school districts, recently asked the state to let him withdraw from the ...

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Effin eh

Port Washington, NY

#3 Apr 12, 2008
Guy tries to do the right thing, gets stuffed. Un-effin believable.
eric

Coram, NY

#4 Apr 12, 2008
are you kidding me!!! after he is caught he tries to get his name removed from pension and the says he did nothing wrong knowing he was part time but allowed the school district to call him full time whos he kidding
Hello

Hempstead, NY

#6 Apr 12, 2008
Yes, he's trying to give it back 18 years later after the AG said it was fraud and was looking into criminal and civil charges for all. What a genuine sweetheart.

And let's face it, the $2-3k per year wouldn't have made that much of a difference but the lifetime medical benefits for his golden years is worth far more.

It's a scam and actually quite interesting to see how the politicians are dealing with this (that's a real check on their moral compass) as well as the lawyers involved running for cover.
BUSTER

AOL

#7 Apr 12, 2008
What a dirt bag. He's a lawyer, and knows they won't just release him. And he wants all the money back. Typical bottom feeder wants to look good now that the heat's on.
lawyer or liar

East Hampton, NY

#8 Apr 12, 2008
Can someone with a law degree who knows intimately the in's and out's of Education law be innocent of the system he practices within?

What this would actually mean is that this lawyer, who has been inside the legal system for two decades give or take did not have a handle what so ever on the pension system of the districts and libraries he gave legal advice to.

How can that be?? How can someone give legal advice to these municipalities and not know or not care that they were putting in for his future by way of the New York State pension system.

Did he get a pay check from the schools? Did he get a pay check from the library?

Did his pay checks from each place show where he put into the system??

If that is not how it works then tell me would he know whether or not he was part of the pension system through an accountant???

Did he not receive annual or semi-annual statements from the New York State pension system??
Please tell me how he can be innocent of the knowledge in any case???
where was nystrs

West Babylon, NY

#9 Apr 12, 2008
As a member of the retirement system, I'm outraged. I taught full time before kids, then part time (at SCCC) while my kids were small. I got very minimal part time credit (1 month of credit per year per course I taught) I am now a widow, and teaching at SCCC and I get NO credit for the SCCC work, because I am now teaching full time in a school in order to feed my family and pay the bills. How can lawyers get credit from multiple districts (while getting retainer fees as well) and I can't claim that extra one month per year to get close to being able to retire before I hobble out of there? I am working extra and all I want is credit for that extra work. 1 month per course doesn't seem like too much to ask. I guess if I was a lawyer and knew how to bamboozle them, I would deserve extra credit for nothing. Working extra hard within the retirement system to catch up for years of taking time to raise my children while they were young is a reasonable way to make up for lost years of service. NYSTRS cares less about its teachers and obviously turns a blind eye to what lawyers do. Looking out for themselves I guess.
personal honor

East Hampton, NY

#10 Apr 12, 2008
where was nystrs wrote:
As a member of the retirement system, I'm outraged. I taught full time before kids, then part time (at SCCC) while my kids were small. I got very minimal part time credit (1 month of credit per year per course I taught) I am now a widow, and teaching at SCCC and I get NO credit for the SCCC work, because I am now teaching full time in a school in order to feed my family and pay the bills. How can lawyers get credit from multiple districts (while getting retainer fees as well) and I can't claim that extra one month per year to get close to being able to retire before I hobble out of there? I am working extra and all I want is credit for that extra work. 1 month per course doesn't seem like too much to ask. I guess if I was a lawyer and knew how to bamboozle them, I would deserve extra credit for nothing. Working extra hard within the retirement system to catch up for years of taking time to raise my children while they were young is a reasonable way to make up for lost years of service. NYSTRS cares less about its teachers and obviously turns a blind eye to what lawyers do. Looking out for themselves I guess.
You are a good person, and you will be rewarded on day, just remember the bible says "the last shall be first and the first shall be last."
You are better off and you have been I am certain an inspiration to your children...
As a mom, I would say to you...I am proud of you and proud to just give you a few words of wisdom...You should be commended...so please allow me to tell you so.
Southbound

Bronx, NY

#11 Apr 12, 2008
Looks like he thinks he can 'scrub off' 20 years of underhanded dealing by rejecting a pension that doesn't amount to anything. While I agree that he's not entitled to the pension, turning it down does not put hime in the clear of his past.
I think he needs to be put on trial for his stealing from the taxpayers in the past.
Get It Straight

Norwalk, CT

#12 Apr 12, 2008
where was nystrs wrote:
As a member of the retirement system, I'm outraged. I taught full time before kids, then part time (at SCCC) while my kids were small. I got very minimal part time credit (1 month of credit per year per course I taught) I am now a widow, and teaching at SCCC and I get NO credit for the SCCC work, because I am now teaching full time in a school in order to feed my family and pay the bills. How can lawyers get credit from multiple districts (while getting retainer fees as well) and I can't claim that extra one month per year to get close to being able to retire before I hobble out of there? I am working extra and all I want is credit for that extra work. 1 month per course doesn't seem like too much to ask. I guess if I was a lawyer and knew how to bamboozle them, I would deserve extra credit for nothing. Working extra hard within the retirement system to catch up for years of taking time to raise my children while they were young is a reasonable way to make up for lost years of service. NYSTRS cares less about its teachers and obviously turns a blind eye to what lawyers do. Looking out for themselves I guess.
I don't understand why you aren't getting any credit - do you mean they took away credit already earned in the part-time job? That doesn't make sense. Have you called NYSTRS? You should get that straightened out. It seems they should be giving you all you had earned. Unless of course, you were out of the system too many years w/o teaching at all. Then you'd have to start over I believe.
Another One Caught

Ronkonkoma, NY

#13 Apr 12, 2008
Well, if you are at Ingerman Smith or Ehrlich, Frazier, Feldman (it might now be Frazier Feldman because Ehlich was caught last month - maybe it will shrink even more)you should be worried. Not only the outrageous fees for bogus and self serving legal advice but pension credit to boot. Just a matter of time until all the lawyers with illegally credited pension service are caught. Right now they are still rounding up the ones who are collecting or eligible (by age) to collect. You are next.
Dogs of War

AOL

#14 Apr 12, 2008
My advice to you.....run."

Mr. Wooley is a partner at Medina & O'Brien, P.C., of Hawthorne, a law firm specializing in criminal and education law. He is certified by New York State as a special education impartial hearing officer and serves in that capacity for several school districts. He has been a member of the BOCES Board since 1998, and before that, served on the Greenburgh Central 7 Board of Education for seven years.
Bangkok Bill

Bangkok, Thailand

#15 Apr 13, 2008
The slime ball got caught with his hand in the cookie jar,all the lawyers should go to jail and be disbarred.Watching and want to see what happens.
Lynne chbrook

Glen Cove, NY

#16 Apr 13, 2008
Another piece of dog excrement ripping us off. He might as
I wonder who is cell mate will be. I hear Terrence likes the top bunk bed but snores like a race horse.
mule5150

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Apr 13, 2008
...Let him keep the pension ......put the school administrators and library administrators in JAIL... that will correct the problem..........oh ...and then maybe the state should make a law to stop it for good ..........simple
Spanky

Bronx, NY

#18 Apr 13, 2008
I wonder if he would have given it up if he didn't get caught?
Jim D

Middletown, MD

#19 Apr 13, 2008
He is a Lawyer - they are supposed to be knowledgeable about the law, and they abused the ineptitiude of the various school districts.

They should all be prosecuted for Fraud, and so should the accountants, for not picking up on this during routine audits.

There is no paying it back now - medical benis have already been paid.

Oh, I did not know it was illegal to rob a bank, here is the money back.
THOUGHTS

Lodi, NJ

#20 Apr 13, 2008
where was nystrs wrote:
As a member of the retirement system, I'm outraged. I taught full time before kids, then part time (at SCCC) while my kids were small. I got very minimal part time credit (1 month of credit per year per course I taught) I am now a widow, and teaching at SCCC and I get NO credit for the SCCC work, because I am now teaching full time in a school in order to feed my family and pay the bills. How can lawyers get credit from multiple districts (while getting retainer fees as well) and I can't claim that extra one month per year to get close to being able to retire before I hobble out of there? I am working extra and all I want is credit for that extra work. 1 month per course doesn't seem like too much to ask. I guess if I was a lawyer and knew how to bamboozle them, I would deserve extra credit for nothing. Working extra hard within the retirement system to catch up for years of taking time to raise my children while they were young is a reasonable way to make up for lost years of service. NYSTRS cares less about its teachers and obviously turns a blind eye to what lawyers do. Looking out for themselves I guess.
Contact your union rep or the retirement system directly at area code (five one eight) four seven four-seven seven three six or www.osc.state.ny.us/retire and explain to them the problem. If there are any gaps in employment you are probably elligible for tier reinstatement. You will have to buy back the missing years of service to attain continuity (about 2k to 3k per year missed depending on salary and contract). This is done through payroll deductions or lump sum payment or a combination thereof. You should also ask about purchasing prior service. This allows you to get pension credit prior to your original seniority date when you first entered the system. Prior service must be purchased before you start paying for tier reinstatement. Once you start the payment process of tier reinstatement you are barred from buying prior service. You must use pre-tax money from a 403b or 457 plan (if you have either of those; other pre-tax plans may apply) to buy prior service at about the same 2k to 3k per year rate as reinstatement. You are elligible for tier reinstatement up until the day you put your retirement papers in. Good luck.
healthy NY

Saint Johnsville, NY

#21 Apr 13, 2008
Like the Clintons-another lying sack of you know what.
Fed Up

Bronx, NY

#22 Apr 13, 2008
A translation...

Please take my pension and don't send me to jail.

Everybody gets religion when they are facing a cell with Bubba.
Franklin Sq over taxed

Forest Hills, NY

#23 Apr 14, 2008
"State comptroller's office, confirmed that Cullen asked to withdraw and that he also asked the state to refund all contributions he made into the system"
This guy missed his calling - he should have been a comedian!
He wants the money back ?? And who paid for his "off and on" benefits?

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