State turns down lawyer who tried to ...

State turns down lawyer who tried to exit pension system

There are 110 comments on the Newsday story from Apr 11, 2008, titled State turns down lawyer who tried to exit pension system. In it, Newsday reports that:

The attorney, William M. Cullen of Lloyd Harbor, was one of 10 attorneys profiled in a Newsday story on March 28 about private attorneys who secured public benefits by being reported as public employees.

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tired of it

Andover, NJ

#1 Apr 11, 2008
How do you spell Crook? L a w y e r
Kevin

AOL

#2 Apr 11, 2008
Cullen did it, got caught and now will pay the price,he can now tell it to the attorney general
Joey

Patchogue, NY

#3 Apr 11, 2008
Throw them "ALL" in jail!!! Including the school administrators that authorized and signed the papers for these crooks!!! Yes, that mean's you, soon to retire Supt.(take the money and run) Bolton of Copiague!!! Stealing from a "poor" district such as Copiague...shame, shame on you!!!
Public Corruption

AOL

#4 Apr 11, 2008
Yeah right - Minor error - Full time vs Part time.
What a crock

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Apr 11, 2008
Minor error! As anyone knows, your job solely exists on reading every law and document so finely that every minor error benifits a lawsuit you get paid by. Step up and admit you knew exactly what you were doing. This business of ripping off us hard working taxpayers is over. The school districts will suffer come budget votes this year. The exposed smelly fish are comming in droves from all angles these days thanks to Newsday.
mister hard driver

Huntington, NY

#6 Apr 11, 2008
why does the name William Cullen sound familiar? where have I heard that name before?
Any relation to the Cullens of King Kullen supermarkets?
momma

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Apr 11, 2008
Public Corruption wrote:
Yeah right - Minor error - Full time vs Part time.
If this is what these districts consider a minor error they must all have the same incompetent people working for them... In other words PEOPLE IN EACH DISTRICT COINCEDENTLY MADE THE SAME MINOR ERROR.. I guess they all hire incompetent staff then.
midnite

Lindenhurst, NY

#8 Apr 11, 2008
Public Corruption wrote:
Yeah right - Minor error - Full time vs Part time.
Full time vs Part time, MINOR error??? How is it that my boss know's how much time I took in the bathroom?
Read before you Post

Buffalo, NY

#9 Apr 11, 2008
If you guys actually read the article and knew the facts for this specific case, you wouldn't be posting so quickly.

Mr Cullen has NOT received any pension what so ever from the districts he STILL works for.

He was only set to receive at most THREE THOUSAND dollars a year. He makes significantly more than that from his own practice and was not trying to "screw the system."

The other lawyers, many of whom are most likely guilty, have ALREADY RECEIVED TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars a year. Mr Cullen has NOT.

Unfortunately, Newdsay grouped all the lawyers together in one original article with out providing facts for each case, making them ALL seem like huge crooks that have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from the system.

Once the investigation is finished, Mr Cullen will be one of the few innocent in this case and hopefully Newsday will do the right thing and apologize for tarnishing his name.
treciama

Middletown, DE

#10 Apr 11, 2008
Read before you Post wrote:
If you guys actually read the article and knew the facts for this specific case, you wouldn't be posting so quickly.
Mr Cullen has NOT received any pension what so ever from the districts he STILL works for.
He was only set to receive at most THREE THOUSAND dollars a year. He makes significantly more than that from his own practice and was not trying to "screw the system."
The other lawyers, many of whom are most likely guilty, have ALREADY RECEIVED TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars a year. Mr Cullen has NOT.
Unfortunately, Newdsay grouped all the lawyers together in one original article with out providing facts for each case, making them ALL seem like huge crooks that have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from the system.
Once the investigation is finished, Mr Cullen will be one of the few innocent in this case and hopefully Newsday will do the right thing and apologize for tarnishing his name.
Nice try-- I guess you and your buddies have come to assume everyone else is an idiot!!

Cullen and the other lawyers should be disbarred and jailed. Nothing else is remotely adequate as a response to licensed fiduciaries using their positions of trust to steal millions for personal benefit. If a lawyer "borrows" a small amount from a real estate escrow trust fund, he is routinely disbarred and usually jailed and restitution is always required. How could anything less be acceptable in this craven, intentional, long-term fraudulent scheme. Jail is especially important for two reasons:(1) the gross abuse of public trust by those supposed to be trusted the most must be recognized; and (2) it seems a lot of these hogs are in or near retirement so the disbarment, while absolutely necessary as a statement of justice and accountability, may not constitute much of a tangible punishment.

Believe me, the "employment" issue isn't subtle or complex. These guys knew EXACTLY what they were doing and collected additional millions in fees by claiming expertise in this very issue. You can bet they also proudly collected large fees for advice on how to recast lots of traditional workers as "consultants" to enable their clients to deprive those workers of health insurance and other employment benefits!

GREED, THEFT, HYPOCRICY, ARROGANCE AND FRAUD. That's what he's guilt of and he should receive exemplary punishment.
dont get caught

East Setauket, NY

#11 Apr 11, 2008
what a tangled web we weave , once the indictments start dropping, the rats will come out of the closet and we will see a total demolition of the school system
while these "double dippers" sit in sunny florida creating their own defenses and walk
Read before you Post

Buffalo, NY

#12 Apr 11, 2008
Again, grouping Cullen with all the other lawyers. I agree that most of these other lawyers are in the wrong and should be disbarred IF proven to be guilty.

So, in Cullen's case: Greed of pension money that he did not receive? Theft of $0? Fraud for being in the pension system for districts that he currently worked for?

Unfortunately for those of you that want a public hanging -- he has not done anything illegal. Not every lawyer is out to steal and cheat.
liner

Bronx, NY

#13 Apr 11, 2008
mister hard driver wrote:
why does the name William Cullen sound familiar? where have I heard that name before?
Any relation to the Cullens of King Kullen supermarkets?
Game show host?
treciama

Middletown, DE

#14 Apr 11, 2008
Read before you Post wrote:
Again, grouping Cullen with all the other lawyers. I agree that most of these other lawyers are in the wrong and should be disbarred IF proven to be guilty.
So, in Cullen's case: Greed of pension money that he did not receive? Theft of $0? Fraud for being in the pension system for districts that he currently worked for?
Unfortunately for those of you that want a public hanging -- he has not done anything illegal. Not every lawyer is out to steal and cheat.
You obviously are not an independent voice. You are obviously also not an intelligent voice--is your point that abuse of fiduciary positions of trust is okey dokey?? Or is it your position that someone who robs a bank but doesn't get away with the bag of money is innocent??

I'm guessing you're either Cullen, his lawyer, his PR hack or maybe just a generic idiot who thinks the scam Cullen is a part of should be whitewashed without consequences for his actions. We, the abused and ripped off taxpayers, disagree vehemently and will demand our full measure of justice. Cullen should arrange his affairs assuming judgement day will come for the privileged inside crony/felon---it's overdue and unusual but nevertheless coming for a change.
Take your lumps

Forest Hills, NY

#15 Apr 11, 2008
Read before you Post wrote:
If you guys actually read the article and knew the facts for this specific case, you wouldn't be posting so quickly.
Mr Cullen has NOT received any pension what so ever from the districts he STILL works for.
He was only set to receive at most THREE THOUSAND dollars a year. He makes significantly more than that from his own practice and was not trying to "screw the system."
The other lawyers, many of whom are most likely guilty, have ALREADY RECEIVED TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars a year. Mr Cullen has NOT.
Unfortunately, Newdsay grouped all the lawyers together in one original article with out providing facts for each case, making them ALL seem like huge crooks that have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from the system.
Once the investigation is finished, Mr Cullen will be one of the few innocent in this case and hopefully Newsday will do the right thing and apologize for tarnishing his name.
Nice try!
At the very least - find out who at the districts ever approved this - and fire them.
Otherwise - soounds like this guy is just trying to save his own neck. Too little - too late ?? Only time will tell. As for a Newsday apology - I don't think so !! He doesn't deserve it.
I did read again

Forest Hills, NY

#16 Apr 11, 2008
Read before you Post wrote:
Again, grouping Cullen with all the other lawyers. I agree that most of these other lawyers are in the wrong and should be disbarred IF proven to be guilty.
So, in Cullen's case: Greed of pension money that he did not receive? Theft of $0? Fraud for being in the pension system for districts that he currently worked for?
Unfortunately for those of you that want a public hanging -- he has not done anything illegal. Not every lawyer is out to steal and cheat.
So you are saying that if none of this had ever become public, this guy would have made the same request?
In that case - why didn't he say something last year? Or why did he ever agree to have his name put on the pension list to be begin with??Hmmmm.
How does this happen

Forest Hills, NY

#17 Apr 11, 2008
"Although he also received health benefits "off and on" through the district, Cullen said he offset the cost to the district by working extra hours at no charge."
Nice - included medical benefits too!

"A private attorney, who has accrued more than 18 years in the state pension system while also collecting retainer fees from libraries and school districts, recently asked the state to let him withdraw from the system, but was turned down, according to a letter he sent to clients."
How recent?
David

Englishtown, NJ

#18 Apr 11, 2008
He maintains that he is a part time employee of the district..???? What a bunch of B arbara S tanwyk.
Incest is not best

Palm Coast, FL

#19 Apr 11, 2008
No wonder teachers cant get a lawyer to go up against the districts.
Protection money for the districts to the lawyers? Payola?
Fed-up with Phonies

New York, NY

#20 Apr 11, 2008
Read before you Post wrote:
If you guys actually read the article and knew the facts for this specific case, you wouldn't be posting so quickly.
Mr Cullen has NOT received any pension what so ever from the districts he STILL works for.
He was only set to receive at most THREE THOUSAND dollars a year. He makes significantly more than that from his own practice and was not trying to "screw the system."
The other lawyers, many of whom are most likely guilty, have ALREADY RECEIVED TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars a year. Mr Cullen has NOT.
Unfortunately, Newdsay grouped all the lawyers together in one original article with out providing facts for each case, making them ALL seem like huge crooks that have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from the system.
Once the investigation is finished, Mr Cullen will be one of the few innocent in this case and hopefully Newsday will do the right thing and apologize for tarnishing his name.
I'll settle for a private hanging Read before you Post from Buffalo. It worked for Saddam Hussein how about this Cullen Creep, and I'll throw in a half hitch around your pencil neck! Lawyer phony!

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