Cherokee Indian tribe that lived here...
Knownothing

Columbia, SC

#42 Sep 10, 2010
concerned wrote:
yes they owned lower heard part of clay over to barnes ridge it was owned by byrd she was cherokee from north carolina I thank she had 4 sons 3 daughters.they also owened some land in overton co.
It all would have been in Overton Co. at that time. If early enough, it would have been part of Jackson Co.
stmire

North Charleston, SC

#43 Apr 24, 2011
Overton County isn't recognizing the Indian presence that was her before the county was "founded" because Andrew Jackson made the claim that "he" founded the county and its current name being that of his friend; a judge.

The original "whites" to settle in Overton Co (which was more than just one county at the time; part of Davidson, Jackson, Overton, Putnam, Fentress, Pickett) were the Copeland's. Col. Stephen Copeland and his son "Big Joe" came over from North Carolina and were the first white settlers in Overton County. It was Big Joe that married Chief Nettle Carrier's (non white name was Talotiskee Bird Clan) daughter Hannah Thatcher Ward. Chief Nettle Carrier was in charge/owned a good part of the land in Middle Upper Tennessee and apparently after his daughter married he sold the land he had to Big Joe (as the story goes, for 120 bucks and a horse). So if you want a lot of information on this area of Tennessee, you'd best look into Col. Stephen Copeland (the founding white family of Overton County).

Hannah Thacher Ward Copeland is the wife of Joseph Jefferson Big Joe Copeland, which is my current wife's 4th great grand uncle. I'm still working the history, but, I'm back into the parents of the parents of Chief Nettle Carrier.

A good bit of information can be found about Nettle through search engines and Ancestry.com . There are a TON of families that have ties to the Copeland's that have the ties to Nettle and his daughter.
Sevier

United States

#44 Apr 25, 2011
Hey my family has a lot of history here in the overton, pickett, fentress, and clay county areas.. Half native,a book I highly recommend you read, and I think by your post it will definitely shine some light on your subject is, "BLACK, WHITE, AND INDIAN". You will really enjoy this book..
want to read it too

Livingston, TN

#45 Apr 25, 2011
Sevier wrote:
Hey my family has a lot of history here in the overton, pickett, fentress, and clay county areas.. Half native,a book I highly recommend you read, and I think by your post it will definitely shine some light on your subject is, "BLACK, WHITE, AND INDIAN". You will really enjoy this book..
Where can that book be found? Thanks.
Sevier

United States

#46 Apr 25, 2011
want to read it too wrote:
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Where can that book be found? Thanks.
You can probably find this book at most any library, and definitely on amazon. I soils have mentioned the author is Claudio Saunt, and he is a very controversial author and no one knows his ethnicity as he has never revealed this to anyone. The book focuses on an oklahoma family but it shows and is a great great outline of how they got there.. I also recommend anything by Theda Purdue as she is the country's foremost expert on anything Cherokee.
Bambi

Chantilly, VA

#47 May 20, 2011
"" Evidently no one in this area who filed a claim was approved.""
As I posted above,My grandfather was born here in Overton County in 1884 and his sister 1880.
They did indeed receive payment from that fund.
In a book written by a Navy Admiral researching my surname all across the county (his wife has the same surname) there is a section in the book of people with my surname in this area.
Is your surname Raper? It is a French name. People who put names in the Rolls were illiterate when they put the name in the Rolls.I get A LOT of FLACK about it. But F those boathuggers, its not your fault. I believe it is pronounce Ray-pea-a, not sure. My Grandfather is named after Cherokee Chief Obed his mother was Martha Alice Raper sister of Lona. The Admiral of which you are speaking his last name is Doty? He is the son of Lona. My grandfather and he are cousins I have a picture of him. I say all this detail because no one believes that I am part Cherokee. Because of the blue eyes that are dominant in our family. I have brown because of my father.
wont happen

Santa Clara, CA

#48 May 20, 2011
Cheyenne wrote:
Id love to hear more about our ancestors also.
Why does the Museum in Livingston not have an area devoted to the original natives who have always lived here?
Its not like they were prehistoric creatures , they were our great great grandparents and others.
the people in livingston and overton county are for the most part racist. yes, there is a black mayor but he is just a figure head.
president andrew jackson was a racist also and was for killing all native peoples of tennessee. christopher columbus was also a murderer of indigenous peoples. overton county is deeply connected to president andrew jackson.
there will never be recognition of the native peoples of overton county because they weren't white.
the museum has a black exhibit dedicated to this group of people who's ancestors still live here after surviving slavery and being brought to this country against their will yet the native people who lived here were killed, murdered and their lands stolen are evidently nothing but dirt to these racist.
they have descendants here also and on a larger scale than the blacks. many people are ashamed of overton county for that matter.
hillbillyredneck country

Cookeville, TN

#49 Jul 15, 2011
i'm also from chief nettle carrier & i have a ancestary book with my name in it.i can't find out where chief net carrier is buried.the book says something about the tribe maybe splinting up?i'll have to reread & post on here.i welcome any info on this.i've got native's in both parents.i also would like to know what's up the museum & natives?haven't been there as of yet but i will go shortly.i will be asking about this! after all the natives where here 1st!!we owe them that much!!
Ivory Dove

Brevard, NC

#50 Jul 15, 2011
hillbillyredneckcountry wrote:
i'm also from chief nettle carrier & i have a ancestary book with my name in it.i can't find out where chief net carrier is buried.the book says something about the tribe maybe splinting up?i'll have to reread & post on here.i welcome any info on this.i've got native's in both parents.i also would like to know what's up the museum & natives?haven't been there as of yet but i will go shortly.i will be asking about this! after all the natives where here 1st!!we owe them that much!!
Actually it is thought that myans were probably the first and out of that ethnic group came what we call native americans. So,redneck, you are most likely a mexican..
hillbillyredneck country

Cookeville, TN

#51 Jul 15, 2011
ivory dove u need to fly away fast...calling me a mexican!mexican is a tribe that's true!i am talking about cherokee!!cherokee!!
hello

Lafayette, TN

#52 Jul 15, 2011
i'm 5 different types of native american indian mostly cherokee though.. i'm half native american indian, half german and a smidge irish and italian.
Ivory Dove

Brevard, NC

#53 Jul 15, 2011
hillbillyredneckcountry wrote:
ivory dove u need to fly away fast...calling me a mexican!mexican is a tribe that's true!i am talking about cherokee!!cherokee!!
Haha only joking mr. neck.. You child be mexican though..lol
hillbillyredneck country

Cookeville, TN

#54 Jul 15, 2011
we are not talking about mexicans!we are talking about cherokee indians & their ancestary!
Ivory Dove

United States

#55 Jul 15, 2011
They can date their ancestry to the myan indians of which the mexican as well as any North American tribe can be traced to. That is all I was saying.
bo peep

Cookeville, TN

#56 Jul 15, 2011
well did the copelands have any relations that were harriss that married a bilbery that come from n.c,?
wondering

Cookeville, TN

#57 Jul 19, 2011
My great great grandfather i was told was an cherokee chief, last name of TODD anyone know anything about that family
Clydene

United States

#58 Aug 17, 2011
Interesting comments. I have done genealogical research in Overton Co. for years as well as visiting there. Most are right that there is little to nothing in the way of NA/Indian literature on the shelves in that library/museum.

OK, for the person who made the comment about NA being Mexicans. Try studying DNA a little. NA's came from Asia by way of the Berring Straight during the Ice Age. This is proven by DNA. So, the North American Indians were here first with the South American Indians origins later after migrating south. No! Indians are not Mexicans - Mexicans are of Indian ancestors of early Asian origins but later than the North American Indians in the US and Canada. Indians are Indians and have their own DNA/Haplotypes separate from all other races excluding Asians.

I too have Cherokees who resided in Overton Co. near Okalona and I have discovered a Native American Cherokee Village near Okalona. This is likely where my people lived.

My 3rd GGMO, Cherokee Jane Unknown, married William Carroll Gore. Her daughter, my 2nd GGMO is Eliza Jane Gore. Jane died when Eliza Jane was young and William married 2nd ti Nancy E. Tipton, also a Cherokee.

Is anyone familiar with the Tipton Family who had a daughter named Nancy in Okalona, TN in the early 1800's - about 1820.

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The Story of the Black Robes of Death. In Tennessee, the soldiers passed out buffalo robes to the Indians tainted with Small Pox germs killing whole villages of Cherokees. Jackson was not a friend to any Indians. He made the statement that: "The only good Indian is a dead Indian" and he was the father of their country. This is why no NA likes General Jackson and I can understand that completely. Clydene

Clydene

United States

#59 Aug 17, 2011
I recognized something I have come across before.

The name Bilbery in TN is an English name from a the Bilberry that is on the health food stores of today. However, the Bilbery Family is of NA blood in TN or, at least, some of them are. Some were in Warren Co., TN and Overton Co. as well.

I would have to look up the names to give more details on these Bilberys but I know they were there. Clydene

Since: Jun 11

Livingston, TN

#60 Aug 21, 2011
half native wrote:
I read that also and the last sentence is incorrect.
"" Evidently no one in this area who filed a claim was approved.""
As I posted above,My grandfather was born here in Overton County in 1884 and his sister 1880.
They did indeed receive payment from that fund.
In a book written by a Navy Admiral researching my surname all across the county (his wife has the same surname) there is a section in the book of people with my surname in this area.
The book said the families always kept this information guarded because there was other ethnic blood lines in this family tree also.
I'll just leave it at that. In the book he had listed my grandfather and my great Aunt as recipients of this reparation fund but my family always knew this anyway.
Ms. Josepine is to be commended for her excellent writings of our culture here and everyone should support all authors and writers in our area.
what dose that mean surname?btw is there any resevers around here in overton county sorry if i missspelled anything..the reason im asking i've wanted to vist a resever and larn about they're history they don't even teach that stuff in schools it's a damn shame too!.
chicken little

Cookeville, TN

#61 Aug 23, 2011
moses harris married francis bilbery, somehow they a connected to the copelands, they were born in 1783 and died 1860. francis was born 1798 died 1880. just wondered if im related to indians.

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