Cherokee Indian tribe that lived here...
Native Son

Franklin, TN

#21 Dec 4, 2008
half native wrote:
Native son , thanks for the post . I really enjoyed reading it and would like to copy this and keep it.
Thanks for sharing.
Sorry meant to say copy and save...

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Since: Dec 08

South Bend

#22 Dec 7, 2008
Isn't the river between Crawford and Wilder the Obed?The Nolichucky runs thru Unicoi Co.I have walked the hills of Cub Mt.and found many overhangs where the smoke from their fires stained the ceilings.Thanks for the local info.
classy rose

Cookeville, TN

#23 Dec 8, 2008
my grandfather was half cherokee, Benton Wright from the Bolestown area. any connection
Laura

Tampa, FL

#24 Sep 13, 2009
My husband's 3 great grandmother was 1oo% Cherokee out of North Carolina. Her name was Dinah Ring. We are looking for any information to confirm this so we can add it to the family line. Also we were informed that he could qualify for reparation. Can anyone help me with this?

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Since: Mar 09

Livingston

#25 Sep 13, 2009
Ronnie Dale wrote:
Native Son, this is the way I understand it happened too. The author you are talking about is Jim Hunter. William Dale that was given the land was my Great, Great Grandfather.
William Dale is an ancestor of our family. If i'm not mistaken William Dale is my great great grandfather also. My mothers side has indian in the blood line, You can tell that the indian blood line runs in the family. My mother, uncle and aunt all have the high cheek bone, skin, hair, one can very easily tell they are part indian.
one feather

Jonesville, SC

#26 Sep 13, 2009
Laura wrote:
My husband's 3 great grandmother was 1oo% Cherokee out of North Carolina. Her name was Dinah Ring. We are looking for any information to confirm this so we can add it to the family line. Also we were informed that he could qualify for reparation. Can anyone help me with this?
according to the rules of the Cherokee Indian Nation , The eastern Band , Qualla , Cherokee,North Carolina, the family name , name , MUST be recorded in the roll . If the name is NOT IN THE ROLL of NAMES, you can forget it. Many members of the Cherokee were left off the roll and many were left off on purpose and many by mistake. The early part of 20th century legislation from the Cherokee government ruled a cutoff of names to be added.
YOU CAN SEE THE ROLL by visiting the Cherokee Offices / museum in Cherokee,NC.
They are very strict about the names. Even if your and all your family are 100% pure Cherokee, if your name is not on the roll, your not a member of the tribe. the last information I could gather (2007) members of the tribe were paid 2000 - 3000 dollars a year to every member. A father and mother and 5 kids would receive anywhere from $14000-$21000 a year from Tribal funds. It use to be lower than that because chiefs in the past controlled the money and kept it for other reasons, after many conflicts and fights within the tribal counsel in the past few years, this is the allotment that I last knew about. Some Indian tribes in the USA offer much much more than this meager amount but atleast it keeps many above poverty level barely, if that.
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If I may , its a damn shame Overton County does not care to recognize the history of its native people other than the invading white europeans.
It does honor the slaves from early times in Overton County. Why not a section of History at the Museum on Chief Nettle Carrier , his father Chief Obed and his brother Chief Double Head. This is a disgrace to many people of Overton County to be left out of the history books. It was a shame to be Brown or Black to the early settlers of Overton County. Its time to make amends and honor our forefathers , Brown , Black or whatever.
one feather

Jonesville, SC

#27 Sep 13, 2009
Laura, you said "" My husband's 3 great grandmother was 1oo% Cherokee ""
are you saying , your husbands GREAT-GREAT-GREAT Grandmother? or his THREE great grandmothers ?
The ROLL will only recognize down to 1/8 blood line.
This is not a lot of generation.
like this :
A is full blooded
B is 1/2 blooded
C is 1/4 blooded
D is 1/8 and the end of the line for tribal membership.
A span including a full blooded great grand parent down to a great grandchild is the limit - 4 generations.
As each generation has passed in the past 200 years you can now see that the actual lineage for claim would likely be limited to the actual members living in Cherokee,NC today. Too much time has passed and too many generations of marriage has occurred.
Now if your husbands GREAT GRAND MOTHER is on the roll , he would be the last of that line and be entitled to 2-3K a year but her name MUST be in that ROLL and you MUST PROVE it.
* PROVING YOU ARE KIN TO A MEMBER TO SOMEONE ON THE ROLL IS UP TO THE CLAIMANT AND IS SCRUTINIZED EVERY SO HARSLY BY THE TRIBAL COUNSEL.
Hope this helps.
Guest

Columbia, SC

#28 Sep 13, 2009
Thank You One Feather for all you information. Many of us would like to know more about our native connections.
TO Laura ::: I don't mean to be rude or ill but I was wondering why your husband feels he is entitiled to any money from the Nation? Just because you carry the blood does not mean you are entitled. How has the removal affected his life?
Most of the real Tribe Members really need all they get for the year.

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Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#29 Sep 14, 2009
I have enjoyed reading this. I have heard my great Uncle talk many times about being related to Chief Nettlecarrier. I can tell he has lot of the blood line in him. I also heard that nettlecarrier was buried in the Alpine area. But never could find out if it was true or not.
Also i live on Baptist Ridge as mentioned on another post. I have found many Arrow Heads and other things, while turning gardens. I guess they could be from the cheerokee tribe. Anyway thanks for the great comments. I'll enjoy reading more about this.
Ray pier

Ashburn, VA

#31 Sep 1, 2010
Just curious was the Admiral's surname Raper. The actual spelling is Rapier its is spelled Raper on the Rolls. I have a cousin who is part Cherokee and an Admiral. I think we should stop calling ourselves half cherokee or a quarter cherokee. I think its racist and it is something established by the American Governtment to dole out land back to the Cherokee. With recessive genes and dominant genes whether you are half or 1/3 of anything is impossible. You get what is it 23 chromosomes from both mother and father so its pretty much a lottery of what you inherit. If you are an Asian,Black,or Latino American no one goes I am a quarter Spanish. By the way Mexican American's are part Indian. I mean come on what is a Latino? If you have American Indian heritage you are at risk for diabetes and other health problems.
Ray pier

Ashburn, VA

#32 Sep 2, 2010
Correction his surname is Doty :P His mother's name is Raper. I guess the Cherokee is comming out in me :D
Maxfield

Columbia, SC

#33 Sep 2, 2010
My Great Great grandfather was a doctor who moved here and married a full blooded indian, I dont care about money, but Im proud to have indian in me, dont have a clue which kind, but proud.
Interested

Columbia, SC

#34 Sep 2, 2010
Maxfield wrote:
My Great Great grandfather was a doctor who moved here and married a full blooded indian, I dont care about money, but Im proud to have indian in me, dont have a clue which kind, but proud.
To PART NATIVE i would love to learn more about the storys you know or info you may have. I live in Alpine and love the history of this. It is very hard to find things on this subject. I have found several sites that talk some about Apline and Cheif Nettelcarrier, but i just want to know more. My kids thinks it great and so do i. If you could or would give me info i would be greatfull. I will keep reading.
review

Santa Clara, CA

#35 Sep 2, 2010
Sequoya the great Tennessee Cherokee Indian Chief that invented the Cherokee alphabet is related to Chief Nettle Carrier who was once the Chief of the Cherokees in this area. Chief Obed was the father of Chief Nettle Carrier and his brother Chief Double Head but I have read where Chief Sequoya is in that family also.
Double Head was located south of here and I dont know what happened to his tribe. Nettle Carrier voluntarily left here for Oklahoma just a year or so before Overton County was granted authority to establish. These Native American blood lines are mixed with many white people still living in this area.
I know where Chief Nettle Carriers daughter and Husband are buried ( Joe Copeland )
Im thinking they are buried on a small knob , to the right , as you pull into the driveway of the home of the late Benton Lee Hammock. His wife Olga still lives there.
Cheyenne

Jamestown, TN

#36 Sep 4, 2010
Id love to hear more about our ancestors also.
Why does the Museum in Livingston not have an area devoted to the original natives who have always lived here?
Its not like they were prehistoric creatures , they were our great great grandparents and others.
idiot from here

Cookeville, TN

#37 Sep 8, 2010
yes Alpine back in Conaster Holler is a site where they settled.
concerned

Walterboro, SC

#38 Sep 10, 2010
I have a grandmother her maiden name was BYRD HEARD she married tom harvey they owned 1ooo,s of acres in clay,pickett and overton county lived on heard ridge all their lives. I would like some background on my grandma if any one could help this was in late 1800-to early 1900, please help.
Agree

Rickman, TN

#39 Sep 10, 2010
This is all very interesting I would love to hear me also.
grandma

Jamestown, TN

#40 Sep 10, 2010
concerned wrote:
I have a grandmother her maiden name was BYRD HEARD she married tom harvey they owned 1ooo,s of acres in clay,pickett and overton county lived on heard ridge all their lives. I would like some background on my grandma if any one could help this was in late 1800-to early 1900, please help.
1000's of acres,then they owned the whole ridge and then some surely.
concerned

Walterboro, SC

#41 Sep 10, 2010
yes they owned lower heard part of clay over to barnes ridge it was owned by byrd she was cherokee from north carolina I thank she had 4 sons 3 daughters.they also owened some land in overton co.

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