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#1 Dec 13, 2008
Returning to my hometown after 32 years and seeing my first hometown Christmas Parade in over three decades, I was really saddened and hurt by the disrespect given our Countryís Flag today.

First of all, there was NO Color or Honor Guard leading the parade; no honor to our nation. Heck there wasnít even honor to our State. Secondly, of all Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Cub Scouts etc. that displayed the American flag, I saw only one troop that properly displayed the Colors. What is being taught to the children?

What I remember as being a very special time thirty plus years ago, appears to have turned into a marketing tool for local businesses, showing off the pretty girls, antique cars, special interests of the area.

I have spent the last three decades defending our country in some not so nice places and today my hometown and county didnít have enough balls to put the American Flag in an honored place in the Christmas Parade.

God Bless the hometown / county men that have died and those of us that have to live with the horrors of war so you could enjoy today.

Merry Christmas, some of us earned it for you.
My View

Byrdstown, TN

#2 Dec 13, 2008
Old and In the Way wrote:
Returning to my hometown after 32 years and seeing my first hometown Christmas Parade in over three decades, I was really saddened and hurt by the disrespect given our Countryís Flag today.
First of all, there was NO Color or Honor Guard leading the parade; no honor to our nation. Heck there wasnít even honor to our State. Secondly, of all Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Cub Scouts etc. that displayed the American flag, I saw only one troop that properly displayed the Colors. What is being taught to the children?
What I remember as being a very special time thirty plus years ago, appears to have turned into a marketing tool for local businesses, showing off the pretty girls, antique cars, special interests of the area.
I have spent the last three decades defending our country in some not so nice places and today my hometown and county didnít have enough balls to put the American Flag in an honored place in the Christmas Parade.
God Bless the hometown / county men that have died and those of us that have to live with the horrors of war so you could enjoy today.
Merry Christmas, some of us earned it for you.
Sorry you didnt see the patches on the uniforms, What local businesses abused the parade?
Thank you for your service, why were you not in our parade? You may have a chip on your soldier, but I know Pet Peterman had participated until he could no longer do so. Join us, we invite you, we want you. I want to tear up when I see our colors but this is a CHRISTmas parade and for christians and that is a huge thing. Thank all the churches who were there it was great.

“Live once, do it right!”

Since: Dec 08

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#3 Dec 13, 2008
My View wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you didnt see the patches on the uniforms, What local businesses abused the parade?
Thank you for your service, why were you not in our parade? You may have a chip on your soldier, but I know Pet Peterman had participated until he could no longer do so. Join us, we invite you, we want you. I want to tear up when I see our colors but this is a CHRISTmas parade and for christians and that is a huge thing. Thank all the churches who were there it was great.
Just remember in this country who has given the Christian, Jew and Muslim the freedom to worship as they see fit. So why not repect their flag in ALL parades.
notfrumroundhere

Shelbyville, TN

#4 Dec 13, 2008
My View wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you didnt see the patches on the uniforms, What local businesses abused the parade?
Thank you for your service, why were you not in our parade? You may have a chip on your soldier, but I know Pet Peterman had participated until he could no longer do so. Join us, we invite you, we want you. I want to tear up when I see our colors but this is a CHRISTmas parade and for christians and that is a huge thing. Thank all the churches who were there it was great.
What a butthole answer. He made an observation as a veteran. He has a right to question what he fought for.
wellawareofu

Jamestown, TN

#5 Dec 13, 2008
Old and in the way....Thank you and every soldier that has given us FREEDOM. I had a dear friend give me a sticker once that read...FREEDOM, something that only those that have fought for, truly understand. You are correct in the fact the flag is not shown respect at times. I am truly sorry about that, I have no control over what others do.
My View

Byrdstown, TN

#6 Dec 14, 2008
notfrumroundhere wrote:
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What a butthole answer. He made an observation as a veteran. He has a right to question what he fought for.
My thoughts are as simple as this, Why did the Gaurd, Arm, Navy, Marines and Coast gaurd not participate. I don't think it would be appropriate for a non-militart to carry the colors. I would invite him to orgainize a color guard with all the branches which would make a grand start of any american parade. It makes me tear up too to see them go by. But I can not do it, It is up to our men who serve. A far a butthole question, this is a direct answer. Dont complain, be the solution, we would be honored.

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Since: Dec 08

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#7 Dec 14, 2008
Dear My View;

You ask, why didnít the Guard, Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard not participate?

There maybe a few reasons why they didnít. My first question would be, did the parade committee ask them? Then I might also look to practicality; the local National Guard unit has been alerted for mobilization and deployment back to Iraq in 2009. If I were the commander of the unit,(and Iíve commanded two units that have gone to Iraq) I would use every opportunity to conduct the per-mobilization training that is required by the Army. Marching in parades isnít on that mission essential task list. The nearest Army Reserve unit is in Donelson, TN, as is the Marine and Naval Reserve. As far as active Army units, Ft Campbell or Knox would be the nearest. Marines are in Camp Lejune, NC. As far as Navy, Milian, TN is the nearest active unit and the Coast Guard is in Memphis. You forgot about the Air Force, which is located in Tullahoma. By the way, Iíve confirmed with two very close friends, one in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan, all branches of the services are still engaged in a two front war as of last night.

Did anyone ask the local veteranís honor guard to participate?

As far as being a complainer and not part of the solution, would you have known or cared that the flag or our nation wasnít properly honor during yesterdayís parade had I not posted my observation? To be part of the solution, one has to identify the problem and to get others to realize that there is actually a problem.

So My View, thank you for your opinion thatís why this country was organized the way it was; that being giving everyone the opportunity to voice his or her opinion. I too have voiced mine.

Merry Christmas
My View

Byrdstown, TN

#8 Dec 14, 2008
Old and In the Way wrote:
Dear My View;
You ask, why didnít the Guard, Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard not participate?
There maybe a few reasons why they didnít. My first question would be, did the parade committee ask them? Then I might also look to practicality; the local National Guard unit has been alerted for mobilization and deployment back to Iraq in 2009. If I were the commander of the unit,(and Iíve commanded two units that have gone to Iraq) I would use every opportunity to conduct the per-mobilization training that is required by the Army. Marching in parades isnít on that mission essential task list. The nearest Army Reserve unit is in Donelson, TN, as is the Marine and Naval Reserve. As far as active Army units, Ft Campbell or Knox would be the nearest. Marines are in Camp Lejune, NC. As far as Navy, Milian, TN is the nearest active unit and the Coast Guard is in Memphis. You forgot about the Air Force, which is located in Tullahoma. By the way, Iíve confirmed with two very close friends, one in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan, all branches of the services are still engaged in a two front war as of last night.
Did anyone ask the local veteranís honor guard to participate?
As far as being a complainer and not part of the solution, would you have known or cared that the flag or our nation wasnít properly honor during yesterdayís parade had I not posted my observation? To be part of the solution, one has to identify the problem and to get others to realize that there is actually a problem.
So My View, thank you for your opinion thatís why this country was organized the way it was; that being giving everyone the opportunity to voice his or her opinion. I too have voiced mine.
Merry Christmas
The only people who are asked/invited are the Grand Marshal/s. I did see flags sorry you missed them. As someone who knows the proper way, why did you not make sure it was done and done correctly. Complaining is easy, solving problems takes effort. Sounds like you would be just the person for the job. If the troops are out of town then we have no complains, I would think. I would think that we have enough retire military that could do the job and do it well.
sugar baby

Gainesboro, TN

#9 Dec 14, 2008
My View wrote:
<quoted text>My thoughts are as simple as this, Why did the Gaurd, Arm, Navy, Marines and Coast gaurd not participate. I don't think it would be appropriate for a non-militart to carry the colors. I would invite him to orgainize a color guard with all the branches which would make a grand start of any american parade. It makes me tear up too to see them go by. But I can not do it, It is up to our men who serve. A far a butthole question, this is a direct answer. Dont complain, be the solution, we would be honored.
Could it be they weren't invited.I am sure had they been asked they would have been there.
My View

Byrdstown, TN

#10 Dec 14, 2008
sugar baby wrote:
<quoted text>Could it be they weren't invited.I am sure had they been asked they would have been there.
You are not invited per say, everyone is invited. If you want in the parade you go get a number. They only invite the GRAND MARSHAL/S. Buy a clue, no one gets an engraved invitation. Read the posts. Sorry to say on second thought everone was invited in the both papers and radio. One of the posts said that no military person was able to attend (Hard to believe).
sugar baby

Gainesboro, TN

#11 Dec 14, 2008
O.k so Snowbird was invited and they weren't.You buy a clue and figure out who got you the freedom to post on this site.As far as a clue per say i will be happy to tell you what you can do with it.In my humble opinion you were rude to Old and in the way.Do you not have brain f@@rt and see that they are why you have the freedom to voice your opinion (as wrong as it may be).
sugar baby

Gainesboro, TN

#12 Dec 14, 2008
Old and In the Way wrote:
Dear My View;
You ask, why didnít the Guard, Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard not participate?
There maybe a few reasons why they didnít. My first question would be, did the parade committee ask them? Then I might also look to practicality; the local National Guard unit has been alerted for mobilization and deployment back to Iraq in 2009. If I were the commander of the unit,(and Iíve commanded two units that have gone to Iraq) I would use every opportunity to conduct the per-mobilization training that is required by the Army. Marching in parades isnít on that mission essential task list. The nearest Army Reserve unit is in Donelson, TN, as is the Marine and Naval Reserve. As far as active Army units, Ft Campbell or Knox would be the nearest. Marines are in Camp Lejune, NC. As far as Navy, Milian, TN is the nearest active unit and the Coast Guard is in Memphis. You forgot about the Air Force, which is located in Tullahoma. By the way, Iíve confirmed with two very close friends, one in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan, all branches of the services are still engaged in a two front war as of last night.
Did anyone ask the local veteranís honor guard to participate?
As far as being a complainer and not part of the solution, would you have known or cared that the flag or our nation wasnít properly honor during yesterdayís parade had I not posted my observation? To be part of the solution, one has to identify the problem and to get others to realize that there is actually a problem.
So My View, thank you for your opinion thatís why this country was organized the way it was; that being giving everyone the opportunity to voice his or her opinion. I too have voiced mine.
Merry Christmas
I want to thank you for our freedom.I appreciate you.
guest

Crawford, TN

#13 Dec 14, 2008
My View wrote:
<quoted text>You are not invited per say, everyone is invited. If you want in the parade you go get a number. They only invite the GRAND MARSHAL/S. Buy a clue, no one gets an engraved invitation. Read the posts. Sorry to say on second thought everone was invited in the both papers and radio. One of the posts said that no military person was able to attend (Hard to believe).
To carry the flag and honor our service people should not be in question.
There should be no need for invitation. The NUMBER AS YOU SAY should be (1)
This is a no brainer!!! How could there be a parade without our service people.
IF THEY DON'T MEAN MORE THAN THE GRAND MARSHAL THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PERADE.
As for the comment about this being a Christmas parade not a military action. Hell I remember history as being (this country was founded so we could have the freedom of worship.)
Get the connection??????
My View

Byrdstown, TN

#14 Dec 15, 2008
sugar baby wrote:
O.k so Snowbird was invited and they weren't.You buy a clue and figure out who got you the freedom to post on this site.As far as a clue per say i will be happy to tell you what you can do with it.In my humble opinion you were rude to Old and in the way.Do you not have brain f@@rt and see that they are why you have the freedom to voice your opinion (as wrong as it may be).
We love our troops and I am sure you do too. Y dont you have a parade everyday for them. By they way, let me let you know, what that parade was for, and what I (I) saw was people showing our love for Christ by a parade in His Honor. Did you forget Him? There are lots of cool parades in lots of cities Honoring the Vets and Military each year. Now if you don't think that is enough then have one in each city, Hilham, Allon, ect..... every day. Put up or shut up. Now if you think that the Military should be the center of every parade, Great. Join the parade committie and help change things. Mr.or Mrs. arm chair quarterback.
I am Woman Hear Me Roar

Cookeville, TN

#15 Dec 15, 2008
Oh, time for me to rant now!

First of all.......the Christmas parade is not a religious function. Christmas has been so adulterated over the years, that is is more commercial than spiritual, in my opinion.

Second.......there should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, be ANY gathering of American Citizens for any purpose whatsoever without the proper respect being given to our Country and those who fought for our freedom. One should not have had to notice the colors were not leading the way, displayed properly, by color guard of some group (even students or children).

Third.....Old and In the Way.........I apologize to you and any other service member who was offended by this outrageous omission. I, for one, will speak with the parade organizers to see that this does not happen again. What they do with it will then be in their hands. I thank you and those like you for my freedom.

How many of you know that our children don't have a clue how to properly display and care for our flag? How to fold it......to take it down when it is raining......not to let it touch the ground. It's something we need to be ashamed of. I bought a beautiful 48 star flag at a sale recently, it was wadded up in a heap. The first thing we did was, right there, on the auction site, fold it properly and go place it in the truck.

Folks, let's face it. If we don't teach the younger generation by word and example.........who will?

And My View........I don't think anyone said they should have been the center.......but they certainly should have been leading the way, or you might not be able to worship in the manner you see fit. You might have to really test that christianity you spout so loudly by having someone tell you to "renounce Christ or die". There are those in other countries without freedom, who have had to make that choice.

I'm done now. Sorry, I just had to get it off my chest!
darkone

United States

#16 Dec 15, 2008
Who picks the parade winners?
girl1957

Cookeville, TN

#17 Dec 15, 2008
My View wrote:
<quoted text>We love our troops and I am sure you do too. Y dont you have a parade everyday for them. By they way, let me let you know, what that parade was for, and what I (I) saw was people showing our love for Christ by a parade in His Honor. Did you forget Him? There are lots of cool parades in lots of cities Honoring the Vets and Military each year. Now if you don't think that is enough then have one in each city, Hilham, Allon, ect..... every day. Put up or shut up. Now if you think that the Military should be the center of every parade, Great. Join the parade committie and help change things. Mr.or Mrs. arm chair quarterback.
You really like to stir things up, don't you?
girl1957

Cookeville, TN

#18 Dec 15, 2008
I am Woman Hear Me Roar wrote:
Oh, time for me to rant now!
First of all.......the Christmas parade is not a religious function. Christmas has been so adulterated over the years, that is is more commercial than spiritual, in my opinion.
Second.......there should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, be ANY gathering of American Citizens for any purpose whatsoever without the proper respect being given to our Country and those who fought for our freedom. One should not have had to notice the colors were not leading the way, displayed properly, by color guard of some group (even students or children).
Third.....Old and In the Way.........I apologize to you and any other service member who was offended by this outrageous omission. I, for one, will speak with the parade organizers to see that this does not happen again. What they do with it will then be in their hands. I thank you and those like you for my freedom.
How many of you know that our children don't have a clue how to properly display and care for our flag? How to fold it......to take it down when it is raining......not to let it touch the ground. It's something we need to be ashamed of. I bought a beautiful 48 star flag at a sale recently, it was wadded up in a heap. The first thing we did was, right there, on the auction site, fold it properly and go place it in the truck.
Folks, let's face it. If we don't teach the younger generation by word and example.........who will?
And My View........I don't think anyone said they should have been the center.......but they certainly should have been leading the way, or you might not be able to worship in the manner you see fit. You might have to really test that christianity you spout so loudly by having someone tell you to "renounce Christ or die". There are those in other countries without freedom, who have had to make that choice.
I'm done now. Sorry, I just had to get it off my chest!
Well said. I also want to apologize to Old And In the Way for this. My mother's family are military.

Since: Nov 08

Carmel IN

#19 Dec 15, 2008
Not to be a pain in the rear or anything, but why doesn't Old And In the Way volunteer to show the boy scouts, cub scouts, AHG, Girl Scouts the proper way to honor the flag if he feels it is not being taught right? I know for a fact these groups are always looking for mentors and volunteers. Step up to the plate!
I am Woman Hear Me Roar

Cookeville, TN

#20 Dec 15, 2008
Yes, that would be a nice thing to do for sure. That doesn't take away the fact that there should have been a color guard at the front of the Christmas Parade.

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