A Classic Evolution Policy Blunder

A Classic Evolution Policy Blunder

There are 4 comments on the American Spectator story from Aug 4, 2010, titled A Classic Evolution Policy Blunder. In it, American Spectator reports that:

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal signed into law last year an act that sets parameters for teachers who introduce scientific supplements on Darwinian evolution, global warming, human cloning and other controversial subjects.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1 Aug 6, 2010
>>>"The scientists and political scientists at Discovery Institute -- colleagues of mine -- who actually know something about intelligent design, tried to dissuade them, but to no avail."

Bruce is lying. It was the DI who gave the school board "free legal advice" and said ID was totally legal to teach (Francis Beckwith if I recall correctly). It was only after the TMLC got involved and told them that that was probably a bad idea that the DI changed their tune.

>>>"Darwin's theory of evolution, as its main advocates assert it, presumes that there can be no scientific evidence against a totally unguided and unintelligent course to evolution. Evidence to the contrary is ruled out ahead of time."

Another lie. But what else can we expect from the president of the DI? Put simply, evidence for ID has simply never been presented. Which is why they rely on anti-evolution apologetics instead, appealing to the logical fallacy "If not A, therefore B".

They come up with a "scientific theory" of ID yet?

Didn't think so.

Since: Jun 10


#2 Aug 8, 2010
Ugh. That sixth paragraph. I'm not sure if it's all the beer,or reading that, but something is making me want to vomit.

“One voice is enough.”

Since: Jul 07

Tempe, AZ

#3 Aug 8, 2010
@MightySneeze, made it further than I managed! My eyes started to glaze over at about paragraph three.

“I am evolving as fast as I can”

Since: Jan 08

Brooklyn, in Dayton OH now

#4 Aug 10, 2010
The Discovery Institute has made one response to the situation in Livingston Parish. And those marketeers are using it, but not in their typical fashion. I guess they figured the school board is either going to back off or try and go forward losing another lawsuit. I think even the DI would have trouble raising funds after another crushing defeat!

How I see it is that Livingston has two choices to either back off or press on. If the school board backs off, the DI can claim that if they had only gone the 'smart' route and followed their tactics of marketing pseudo-science they might well be in the position to offer Creationism while safely hiding it under a lab coat. If they press ahead and suffer another crushing defeat, the DI can claim that it wasn't ID that got creamed, but Creationism -- and we all know that ID is not Creationism (wink, wink). So how is the DI playing it? Well here is one response.

Bruce Chapmam's post that reminds me of the Mission Impossible opening theme where "the Secretary will disavow all knowledge". In my opinion this is the cowardly way out. The Discovery Institute SET-UP this scenario when they, and the Louisiana Family Forum included all the right words to open the door for a non-scientific critiques of science. They are the ones who opened the door for nearly any material can be used in the science classroom. They were the ones who removed any possible teeth from the implementation procedures to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening. So when it finally does come to pass -- what does the Discovery Institute do? They cut their losses and run! See that yellow streak, that's Bruce running in the opposite direction!

He even mentioned Dover in his comments. Did he forget who was advising the former members of the Dover School Board? They cut and ran there as well. As soon it looked like a legal battle was coming and one they were not going to win -- they ran. They also ran from the minister's wife/part-time soccer coach in Tejon Ca who tried to teach a philosophy class about 'design' that was nothing more than a not-very-cleverly ID class. They are the ones who claimed, after the fact, that they suggested she settle.

So here seems to be the modus operandi. They will do anything, say anything, promise anything to string some poor school district, teacher, or politician along. Then when the going gets rough and bad publicity or a legal defeat might be in their future, they firm place their tails between their legs and run back to Seattle! Well I guess that is as expected since , in my opinion, it's not like they have principles to support.

Let this be a warning to any other school district thinking of Intelligent Design, or it's older brother Creationism. Well before things look bleak, hours before the possibility of any darkness before the dawn, you will see the Discovery Institute give up and head for home and start spinning things as if they were not responsible. The only difference in Livingston is that they are starting the spinning before the school board has taken any actual action! There you have it, the two faces of the Discovery Institute. The one face loaded with marketing muscle that makes all kinds of unsupported pronouncements about the immediate demise of evolutionary theory -- and the other face ... or rather the back of their heads ... as they cut and run leaving you in the lurch.

One last thing, Chapman called his post "A Classic Evolution Policy Blunder", but is this really about Evolution or is it about a school system making an anti-evolutionary policy decision that will make the DI look like idiots? Someone needs to help him write titles, his crayons must be getting dull.

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