Livermore MAYOR KILLED THE TURTLES AN...
springtown

Livermore, CA

#21 Apr 28, 2013
If you dont understand what the Pond is all about here is a how it helps the residents. This is a old lady probobly at the end of her life enjoying this pond. This could be your Mom are Grandmother. https://maps.google.com/...
springtown

Livermore, CA

#22 Apr 28, 2013
This could be your kids and wife. This is what JUDY and the Mayor took from us https://maps.google.com/...
Gina

Kelseyville, CA

#24 Apr 28, 2013
Why am I/we paying Association dues. They want us to keep up our properties and not have them being an eyesore, yet we have to deal with passing this mess everyday. AND it's right next to the Association office. I don't want to hear that it's not their responsibility either. What are they actually overseeing? There's my next call.

Level 2

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#26 Apr 29, 2013
springtown wrote:
<quoted text>You are Clueless. This is the only place around that kids and adults can enjoy wild life first hand. It is sad to see all of them big Bird's so confused. They don't know any other life. For the last 2 years when the pond got low they would run a hose from the Fire Hydrant to fill it up. I remember when they did that I think the idiot with the golf course opened it 24/7 for a week and ran up a big water bill. At this point that is all it needs for about a hour. I don't know why we pay all these idiots who work for the city so much money when all they do is point fingers like little fu@#ken kids all day. They have made Livermore look like a hell hole to the people who pay attention
Gina, look past the family enjoyment and look what's happening to the wild life. You should be able to realize that it is not natural for ducks to act this way, if they are dying off or confused about where to go it is only because the people have messed with their environment and they now rely on people for a constant source of food. By the way, there are plenty of places around here to see wildlife first hand, if only you didn't rely so heavily on a pond and decided to go 15 minutes outside of springtown to find them.

Level 1

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#27 Apr 29, 2013
springtown wrote:
<quoted text>You are Clueless. This is the only place around that kids and adults can enjoy wild life first hand. It is sad to see all of them big Bird's so confused. They don't know any other life. For the last 2 years when the pond got low they would run a hose from the Fire Hydrant to fill it up. I remember when they did that I think the idiot with the golf course opened it 24/7 for a week and ran up a big water bill. At this point that is all it needs for about a hour. I don't know why we pay all these idiots who work for the city so much money when all they do is point fingers like little fu@#ken kids all day. They have made Livermore look like a hell hole to the people who pay attention
There are so many places you can go to see wildlife first hand. Sycamore Grove in South Livermore. The trails at Del Valle. Morgan Territory north of town. The Arroyo Mocho creek that runs through Robertson park has tons of birds and sometimes some small fish-and is tons of fun for kids when ifs knee deep. All the surrounding hills that have open space.

I would say these are more natural than the duck pond. The birds at the pond walk up to people expecting bread and food..they've come to expect it. If you want to find birds in their natural habitat, it's not going to be at the duck pond.
Lisa

Dublin, CA

#28 Apr 29, 2013
1) Try calling PETA, ASPCA or The Lindsay Museum in Walnut Creek for assistance in re-homing the animals and/or getting action to clean up the water.

2) Call the CDC who may be interested in the stagnant water and dead birds who foster West Nile virus. There is an office in Hayward that you can call to report the problem.

3) Once the area is cleaned up, post and enforce "Please do not feed the wildlife" signs to retain a clean eco system for them. Humans are at fault for the degradation of the water by throwing food into the pond that rots etc.
MourningWood

United States

#29 Apr 29, 2013
Lisa wrote:
1) Try calling PETA, ASPCA or The Lindsay Museum in Walnut Creek for assistance in re-homing the animals and/or getting action to clean up the water.
2) Call the CDC who may be interested in the stagnant water and dead birds who foster West Nile virus. There is an office in Hayward that you can call to report the problem.
3) Once the area is cleaned up, post and enforce "Please do not feed the wildlife" signs to retain a clean eco system for them. Humans are at fault for the degradation of the water by throwing food into the pond that rots etc.
very good suggestions Lisa, hopefully people will take them into consideration.
springtown

Livermore, CA

#30 Apr 29, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
There are so many places you can go to see wildlife first hand. Sycamore Grove in South Livermore. The trails at Del Valle. Morgan Territory north of town. The Arroyo Mocho creek that runs through Robertson park has tons of birds and sometimes some small fish-and is tons of fun for kids when ifs knee deep. All the surrounding hills that have open space.
I would say these are more natural than the duck pond. The birds at the pond walk up to people expecting bread and food..they've come to expect it. If you want to find birds in their natural habitat, it's not going to be at the duck pond.
OK I see you don't get it just like the wood person. Maybe I should have not used the word wildlife. I will call them THE SPRINGTOWN BIRDS. Why would anyone who lives around Springtown drive to see ducks from a distant. You two lost the reason we are talking about the pond. ITS ABOUT THE POND HAVING VERY LITTLE WATER!!!!!!!!!! I was at it last night and the SMELL was soooooooo bad that I could smell it from 3 blocks away. It is NOW fair game for LAWSUITS. The city has known about it and has done NOTHING and now it is a HEALTH HAZARD.'Environmental hazard' is the state of events which has the potential to threaten the surrounding natural environment and adversely affect people's health.

Level 1

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#32 Apr 29, 2013
springtown wrote:
<quoted text>OK I see you don't get it just like the wood person. Maybe I should have not used the word wildlife. I will call them THE SPRINGTOWN BIRDS. Why would anyone who lives around Springtown drive to see ducks from a distant. You two lost the reason we are talking about the pond. ITS ABOUT THE POND HAVING VERY LITTLE WATER!!!!!!!!!! I was at it last night and the SMELL was soooooooo bad that I could smell it from 3 blocks away. It is NOW fair game for LAWSUITS. The city has known about it and has done NOTHING and now it is a HEALTH HAZARD.'Environmental hazard' is the state of events which has the potential to threaten the surrounding natural environment and adversely affect people's health.
I actually agree with you that the city should be keeping up with this property. I was responding to your previous post where you said that this was the only place people could go to see "wildlife firsthand". Which is not true. There are many places to go to see wildlife firsthand.
Gina

Oakland, CA

#33 Apr 29, 2013
Again, it was just a nice place to take your kids to sit, enjoy the ducks/geese and relax. "Springtown", who is a good person to contact? I don't care if they respond or not, just give me a name and number. They will be inundated with calls from our area and hopefully will do something

Level 2

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#34 Apr 30, 2013
springtown wrote:
<quoted text>OK I see you don't get it just like the wood person. Maybe I should have not used the word wildlife. I will call them THE SPRINGTOWN BIRDS. Why would anyone who lives around Springtown drive to see ducks from a distant. You two lost the reason we are talking about the pond. ITS ABOUT THE POND HAVING VERY LITTLE WATER!!!!!!!!!! I was at it last night and the SMELL was soooooooo bad that I could smell it from 3 blocks away. It is NOW fair game for LAWSUITS. The city has known about it and has done NOTHING and now it is a HEALTH HAZARD.'Environmental hazard' is the state of events which has the potential to threaten the surrounding natural environment and adversely affect people's health.
Okay so why don't you take Lisa's advice and contact the people that can make a difference? You could be sending emails or making phone calls to wildlife preserves or the CDC instead of trying to prove your point on Topix. Also, you could be seeing the other side of the argument, if your main concern is beautifying the pond, then perhaps your concerns about this issue are a little bit more selfish than helpful. The issue should be the animals, not an eyesore. I understand that you are sick of being ignored by the city, but shouldn't that tell you to branch out to people that will listen?

Level 2

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#35 Apr 30, 2013
Gina wrote:
Again, it was just a nice place to take your kids to sit, enjoy the ducks/geese and relax. "Springtown", who is a good person to contact? I don't care if they respond or not, just give me a name and number. They will be inundated with calls from our area and hopefully will do something
1) Try calling PETA, ASPCA or The Lindsay Museum in Walnut Creek for assistance in re-homing the animals and/or getting action to clean up the water.

2) Call the CDC who may be interested in the stagnant water and dead birds who foster West Nile virus. There is an office in Hayward that you can call to report the problem.

3) Once the area is cleaned up, post and enforce "Please do not feed the wildlife" signs to retain a clean eco system for them. Humans are at fault for the degradation of the water by throwing food into the pond that rots etc.
Lisa

Livermore, CA

#37 Apr 30, 2013
I emailed the mosquito control group in Hayward yesterday and I got a call back TODAY telling me that they visited this morning.

Basically, they acknowledged the pond is in bad shape BUT their role is controlling mosquito's which aren't a problem there. The guy did tell me that he'd try to find the right person to get out there to have a look re: all the dead fish, birds etc.

If I can get a response so quickly, I'm now CERTAIN that if someone else made a few calls and kept their head on straight [i.e. be NICE] that the issue would be taken care of sooner than you think.

I'm out... Quit griping and do something constructive about it Springtown residents who love their pond so much.

Level 2

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#38 Apr 30, 2013
Lisa wrote:
I emailed the mosquito control group in Hayward yesterday and I got a call back TODAY telling me that they visited this morning.
Basically, they acknowledged the pond is in bad shape BUT their role is controlling mosquito's which aren't a problem there. The guy did tell me that he'd try to find the right person to get out there to have a look re: all the dead fish, birds etc.
If I can get a response so quickly, I'm now CERTAIN that if someone else made a few calls and kept their head on straight [i.e. be NICE] that the issue would be taken care of sooner than you think.
I'm out... Quit griping and do something constructive about it Springtown residents who love their pond so much.
Way to be proactive Lisa, you've given Spingtownians the ammo they need and hopefully the drive as well.
Sleepless

Livermore, CA

#39 Apr 30, 2013
Hey why not? Save the ducks and don't feed the kids. It's tough here right now. Taxes are going up, etc. Why not just feed the ducks and geese.

Or instead, why not also clean up all the duck and geese poop that is left around so we're not always having to step on it on the sidewalk. That stuff is nasty.

Or a better idea... if you want the pond cleaned, then why don't you VOLUNTEER to do it?
Sleepless

Livermore, CA

#40 Apr 30, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text>1) Try calling PETA, ASPCA or The Lindsay Museum in Walnut Creek for assistance in re-homing the animals and/or getting action to clean up the water.
2) Call the CDC who may be interested in the stagnant water and dead birds who foster West Nile virus. There is an office in Hayward that you can call to report the problem.
3) Once the area is cleaned up, post and enforce "Please do not feed the wildlife" signs to retain a clean eco system for them. Humans are at fault for the degradation of the water by throwing food into the pond that rots etc.
There is a sign. Someone turned it upside down.

Honestly, I think people who like the pond should figure out how to help with it. Why does it always need to be the city who does everything? Most people are broke. Tax revenue is low. People want libraries, duck ponds, parks, recreation, schools, etc but no one volunteers because everyone is busy either trying to find jobs or they would rather blame the city (for being broke.)

Want a duck pond? Get rid of that ridiculously overpriced library downtown.
Anon

Pleasanton, CA

#41 May 1, 2013
springtown wrote:
<quoted text>You are Clueless. This is the only place around that kids and adults can enjoy wild life first hand. It is sad to see all of them big Bird's so confused. They don't know any other life. For the last 2 years when the pond got low they would run a hose from the Fire Hydrant to fill it up. I remember when they did that I think the idiot with the golf course opened it 24/7 for a week and ran up a big water bill. At this point that is all it needs for about a hour. I don't know why we pay all these idiots who work for the city so much money when all they do is point fingers like little fu@#ken kids all day. They have made Livermore look like a hell hole to the people who pay attention
Run a hose over there yourself. Get a bunch of hoses and connectors and run it over there. How far from a spigot is the pond? Just do it.
Lisa

Dublin, CA

#42 May 1, 2013
Sleepless wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a sign. Someone turned it upside down.
Honestly, I think people who like the pond should figure out how to help with it. Why does it always need to be the city who does everything? Most people are broke. Tax revenue is low. People want libraries, duck ponds, parks, recreation, schools, etc but no one volunteers because everyone is busy either trying to find jobs or they would rather blame the city (for being broke.)
Want a duck pond? Get rid of that ridiculously overpriced library downtown.
Guess you didn't see my first post; which was about initiating an "Adopt the pond" effort hosted by Springtowners. The net is the people complaining about how bad the pond is just wanted to complain. So, I offered alternative options because there may be some public health issues there too. Still, Springtowners wanted to complain... so I did something about it.

I agree, grab a friggin hose and clean up the space you enjoy so much - why leave it to others?
Gina

San Leandro, CA

#43 May 2, 2013
Lisa wrote:
I emailed the mosquito control group in Hayward yesterday and I got a call back TODAY telling me that they visited this morning.
Basically, they acknowledged the pond is in bad shape BUT their role is controlling mosquito's which aren't a problem there. The guy did tell me that he'd try to find the right person to get out there to have a look re: all the dead fish, birds etc.
If I can get a response so quickly, I'm now CERTAIN that if someone else made a few calls and kept their head on straight [i.e. be NICE] that the issue would be taken care of sooner than you think.
I'm out... Quit griping and do something constructive about it Springtown residents who love their pond so much.
Thanks for trying to help. Many of us have tried different avenues to resolve this, it's not that we haven't.....it just hasn't worked. We'll keep trying though
Gina

San Leandro, CA

#44 May 2, 2013
Lisa wrote:
<quoted text>
Guess you didn't see my first post; which was about initiating an "Adopt the pond" effort hosted by Springtowners. The net is the people complaining about how bad the pond is just wanted to complain. So, I offered alternative options because there may be some public health issues there too. Still, Springtowners wanted to complain... so I did something about it.
I agree, grab a friggin hose and clean up the space you enjoy so much - why leave it to others?
Ok, but one question. There is nowhere to connect the hoses around the pond. Now what?

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