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Littleton police arrest chief's son at party

There are 27 comments on the www.theunionleader.com story from Jan 20, 2010, titled Littleton police arrest chief's son at party. In it, www.theunionleader.com reports that:

A few times a year, police are called to break up underage drinking parties, as officers were late Friday night.

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Rich

Sebastian, FL

#1 Jan 20, 2010
If at 18 yrs of age one can be charged with a crime as an adult,and if at 18 yrs of age one can serve in the Armed Forces,than one should be able to drink alcohol legally in every state of the union.The law needs to be changed.
shittalker

United States

#2 Jan 20, 2010
I agree

Since: Sep 07

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#4 Jan 21, 2010
Rich wrote:
If at 18 yrs of age one can be charged with a crime as an adult,and if at 18 yrs of age one can serve in the Armed Forces,than one should be able to drink alcohol legally in every state of the union.The law needs to be changed.
The law was 18 in many states at one time and the alcohol related crimes and deaths are what caused the legal age to drink being raised in the first place. During the draft era of past wars your argument was a valid one, in our current war the reality is the military is only made up of 14.1% 18-20 year olds who enlist. Most of those 18-20 year olds who enlist see it as a means of a stable income during our current economic times. 82.1% of those who elisted in the 18-20 age group come from low income families.

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#5 Jan 21, 2010
shittalker wrote:
I agree
You got shown the door in newszap and now you bring the same nonsense into this forum.
http://md(dot)newszapforums(do t)com/forum11/102700.html

Posted: Wed Jan 20th, 2010 11:38 am
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shittalker
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if u guys dont know what u are talking about keep you mouth shut the two that got mess up by the young man got out of there car and attack him so get it right ok have a good day
shittalker

United States

#6 Jan 21, 2010
Lower Slower Delaware wrote:
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You got shown the door in newszap and now you bring the same nonsense into this forum.
http://md(dot)newszapforums(do t)com/forum11/102700.html
Posted: Wed Jan 20th, 2010 11:38 am
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shittalker
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if u guys dont know what u are talking about keep you mouth shut the two that got mess up by the young man got out of there car and attack him so get it right ok have a good day
Are you following me?

Since: Sep 07

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#7 Jan 21, 2010
shittalker wrote:
<quoted text>Are you following me?
Don't flatter yourself you aren't worth following. I was reading the topic about the "Moose Lodge" where this alleged fight took place, and low and behold there was the same name, which you just admitted is yours.
Rich

Sebastian, FL

#8 Jan 21, 2010
I'm tired of living in an increasingly intrusive nanny state.Where government "knows better" than parents . The per centage of 18 yr olds serving in the military is irrelevant,the fact that they CAN serve and possibly lose life or limb,but that same 18 yr old cannot drink a beer is absurd.I'm tired of the hypocrisy of states taxing alcohol sales reaping higher and revenue from it while bowing at the altar of MADD and and agreeing to consistently decrease the threshold for what consitutes DUI.Drinking is either legal or its not,the constant lowering of blood alcohol content is just "creating" criminals. I'm tired of not being able to buy a friggin oreo cookie in NYC because the health police have sucessfully lobbied to have any foods with transfats banned in that jurisdiction.I'm tired of zero tolerance that gets 2nd graders suspended from school for drawing a picture of a soldier with a gun.I'm tired of "drug free zones" and "bias free zones",what a total load of crap.I had a mother,i don't need any government acting as a surrogate. Maybe the police would be better off using their manpower solving coldcases instead of ambushing 18yr olds drinking beer,handing out tickets for minor infractons and generally breaking balls.How many of us did'nt partake of beer when we were 18? How many of those cops didn't? Was this a rant?You bet,and i didn't even get to the anti smoking nazis.
Poppa

Shanghai, China

#9 Jan 21, 2010
Yo Momma didnt expect youd turn out such a load of crap after loosing the rhetoric minor so yall keep needin the govmint to pay yo bills.Git a job n stop hatin on the cops and bein all stupid King.

Since: Sep 07

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#10 Jan 21, 2010
Far to many parents don't have a clue what their kids are doing at any given time. Maybe if parents acted responsibly themselves and raised their children society wouldn't need to act like the "nanny state" and create all these laws.

You are the one who brought up minors serving in the military, and when I present facts suddenly the age factor is irrelevant. You also leave out any mention of the 85.9% same age group who drink and don't serve which is far greater.
Far to many in that majority have proven themselves to be irresponsible and either injure or kill other innocent people due to their irresponsibility.

I'm tired of people who think protecting innocent children is wrong.

I'm tired of hearing that prayer and mentioning GOD is wrong in school.

I'm tired of seeing ignorant people show absolutely no respect for our nations flag when the national anthem is played or when the Pledge of Alligence is recited.

I'm tired of hearing people say that kids don't have to show respect for any form of authority including their own parents.

I'm tired of hearing parents blame their kids problems on everyone else instead of accepting the fact they suck as parents and their kids are only following their example.

I'm tired of going to an event where alcohol is served only to have some drunk moron start ranting and slobbering all over me and others near them.

I tired of people justifying criminal behavior and putting people in jail for life who are murderers,rapists and pedophiles. It's a waste of taxpayer dollars, cut out the waste and put these people to death.

I tired of hearing people piss and moan about laws that are enacted because of the morons that act irresponsibly, they are the ones that cause the laws to be passed in the first place.

What Topic

United States

#11 Jan 21, 2010
Lower Slower Delaware wrote:
<quoted text>Don't flatter yourself you aren't worth following. I was reading the topic about the "Moose Lodge" where this alleged fight took place, and low and behold there was the same name, which you just admitted is yours.
What Topic?? I don't see no topic in here about no "Moose Lodge"
what happened

Secaucus, NJ

#12 Jan 21, 2010
Lower Slower Delaware wrote:
<quoted text>Don't flatter yourself you aren't worth following. I was reading the topic about the "Moose Lodge" where this alleged fight took place, and low and behold there was the same name, which you just admitted is yours.
I tought that was yours.
Dog

Secaucus, NJ

#13 Jan 21, 2010
Lower Slower Delaware wrote:
<quoted text>Don't flatter yourself you aren't worth following. I was reading the topic about the "Moose Lodge" where this alleged fight took place, and low and behold there was the same name, which you just admitted is yours.
Thats know as trolling Bill
Rich

Sebastian, FL

#14 Jan 21, 2010
Lower Slower Delaware wrote:
Far to many parents don't have a clue what their kids are doing at any given time. Maybe if parents acted responsibly themselves and raised their children society wouldn't need to act like the "nanny state" and create all these laws.
You are the one who brought up minors serving in the military, and when I present facts suddenly the age factor is irrelevant. You also leave out any mention of the 85.9% same age group who drink and don't serve which is far greater.
Far to many in that majority have proven themselves to be irresponsible and either injure or kill other innocent people due to their irresponsibility.
I'm tired of people who think protecting innocent children is wrong.
I'm tired of hearing that prayer and mentioning GOD is wrong in school.
I'm tired of seeing ignorant people show absolutely no respect for our nations flag when the national anthem is played or when the Pledge of Alligence is recited.
I'm tired of hearing people say that kids don't have to show respect for any form of authority including their own parents.
I'm tired of hearing parents blame their kids problems on everyone else instead of accepting the fact they suck as parents and their kids are only following their example.
I'm tired of going to an event where alcohol is served only to have some drunk moron start ranting and slobbering all over me and others near them.
I tired of people justifying criminal behavior and putting people in jail for life who are murderers,rapists and pedophiles. It's a waste of taxpayer dollars, cut out the waste and put these people to death.
I tired of hearing people piss and moan about laws that are enacted because of the morons that act irresponsibly, they are the ones that cause the laws to be passed in the first place.
If the law of the land is at 18 years old you can decide for yourself to serve in the military and potentially lose your life in that endeavor you should have the right to decide whether or not you drink a beer. The "per centage" of 18 years olds who choose to serve is irrelevant,what "is" relevant is the law gives them the right to choose for themselves.Where in the constitution of the US is there a passage about the governments role in child rearing? Liberty and freedom are infringed upon with every new federal,state,county,town,city ,village law,regulation and ordinance,but government show no inclination to curtail their ongoing obsession with creating ever more restrictions.The creation of more rules only "creates" lawbreakers.Effective enforcement of exisiting laws should suffice.Hate crimes legislation is a joke,i'm sure two guys motivated to kill a homosexual by beating him with a baseball bat will be sure to refrain from calling him a faggot while they beat him for fear of breaking the new "hate crimes law" that prevents such speech.Another unfortunate side effect of over regulation is handing the assorted police agencies additional menu items to impose on a mostly compliant citizenry.Please define acting responsibly,where does it end? Do you smoke?If you do are you burdening me with extra health care costs? I don't smoke.Are you overweight? Do you exercise and have healthy eating habits?The laws are being written as we speak.Just what we need more laws regulating behavior of a supposedly free society.More ammuntion given to LE and Code Enforcement and other harpies of compliance.Thats not a road i want to follow and i don't think its a road the founders of our country had in mind.
Rich

Sebastian, FL

#15 Jan 21, 2010
We can live in a free society with common sense rules and laws,but we need not suffer being burdened and subjected to a constant flow of new regulation dictated to us by whatever political faction holds power.What we need is less government.I'm tired of assorted interest groups and their pet causes lobbying congress to impose yet another regulation that impedes ALL of us instead of just targeting the real problem.If a serious problem gets out of hand address it with common sense.Don't let pedophiles out of jail under any circumstances period.Instead we have a sex offender list that is referenced when a child goes missing.A list cluttered and inflated with names that probably don't even belong there,like college kids who streaked or a drunk caught peeing in the bushes.So LE had to weed through all those names wasting time to find the "real" bad guys.This is an example of "tough new laws" that make no sense.Instead of targeting the offenders everybody is painted with the same brush,effectively diluting any good intent and usefulness of the "new law" Just change the old law,lock them up and forget about them.

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#16 Jan 21, 2010
We obviously can't live in a society with common sense rules because people lack common sense. A perfect example is what has transpired in the Topix Franconia forum over the last 3 weeks or so.


As far as keeping pedophiles in jail as opposed to a death sentence here is the national average to house a prisoner:
This quick calculation multiplies the average cost per bed which is $24,332.00 annually.

Calculate in an annual rate of inflation of 3.5%, an inmate's lifetime cost to the taxpayers can be estimated based on how long he lives behind bars. Here are the numbers:

20 yrs =$0.7 million

30 yrs =$1.3 million

40 yrs =$2.1 million

50 yrs =$3.3 million

60 yrs =$4.9 million

I can think of far better ways to be spending taxpayer dollars.
Dog

San Jose, CA

#17 Jan 21, 2010
Me too give the $$ to me.
Rich

United States

#18 Jan 21, 2010
Lower Slower Delaware wrote:
We obviously can't live in a society with common sense rules because people lack common sense. A perfect example is what has transpired in the Topix Franconia forum over the last 3 weeks or so.
As far as keeping pedophiles in jail as opposed to a death sentence here is the national average to house a prisoner:
This quick calculation multiplies the average cost per bed which is $24,332.00 annually.
Calculate in an annual rate of inflation of 3.5%, an inmate's lifetime cost to the taxpayers can be estimated based on how long he lives behind bars. Here are the numbers:
20 yrs =$0.7 million
30 yrs =$1.3 million
40 yrs =$2.1 million
50 yrs =$3.3 million
60 yrs =$4.9 million
I can think of far better ways to be spending taxpayer dollars.
Most people know whats right and whats wrong,we can have a simple system of laws governing whats acceptable without drowning in regulation.Those who choose to break the laws that an overwhelming majority find to be reasonable and fair can pay the price for breaking them.The rest of us need not get caught up in over regulation and suffer the collateral damage of good intentions.Pedophiles can spend life in prison or fry,the specifics don't much matter to me as long as they are removed as a threat entirely and people who are not pedophiles don't become ensnared in over-reaching well intentioned laws that were written to be comprehensive but instead punish stupidity,youthful folly(mooning) etc.This approach is conducive to order not a penal code as convoluted as the tax code.
Poppa

Germany

#19 Jan 21, 2010
Was a rolling stone and his son Rich is a fraud playing on his widdle compewter awwww day.
Rich

Sebastian, FL

#20 Jan 21, 2010
Is it common for posters in Topix forums to have their identities commented on by other posters who make baseless claims or is it just prevelant in this one? Posting opinions on a variety of issues to kill some time or because one might enjoy the give and take of debate is one thing,attempting to bait posters into childish exchanges is quite another.It speaks to the absense of substance in ones life.I find the obsession some posters have with others a bit over the top,bordering on pathological in some cases.This is the last and only post i will make concerning this issue, any such post directed at me that i consider to be in this vein will be ignored.
Sherry

Castleton On Hudson, NY

#21 Jan 30, 2010
Love the ebonics. I hate when people want to sound like uneducated black wannabes.

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