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curious

Syracuse, NY

#1 Apr 22, 2013
Was not able to go how was the evening?
time bandit

Herkimer, NY

#2 Apr 23, 2013
curious wrote:
Was not able to go how was the evening?
$35. Worst food ever. Ran out of most before I got there. Embarrassment. Decarlo is now a money grabber.
good time

New Britain, CT

#3 Apr 23, 2013
time bandit wrote:
<quoted text>$35. Worst food ever. Ran out of most before I got there. Embarrassment. Decarlo is now a money grabber.
Your screen name is related to crabs, how appropriate. Food was good. The speakers were well paced. Great to see Maynard honored and great to have the president of the hall of fame there.
Huh

Little Falls, NY

#4 Apr 23, 2013
time bandit wrote:
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$35. Worst food ever. Ran out of most before I got there. Embarrassment. Decarlo is now a money grabber.
I thought that Decarlo was a non-profit? How the heck did they turn into a for-profit catering and dining establishment, and still keep their property tax exemption under the watchful and ever-fair eyes of Mayor Peters and his super-assessor Presta? It's a good thing that Mayor Peters did not attend the Dawgs dinner, or the Post might be in real trouble now, since we all know he is so deeply concerned with fair-play and justice and he would never let the Italian Vets run a for-profit eatery in plain sight while he was brutally attacking the Co-Op for selling health food.
how dare they

United States

#5 Apr 23, 2013
time bandit wrote:
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$35. Worst food ever. Ran out of most before I got there. Embarrassment. Decarlo is now a money grabber.
A local business hosted a dinner for our very own baseball team. The speakers included a former major league baseball player and a hometown baseball promoter. A NYS representative was there, as well as the president of the nationally known Baseball Hall of Fame. Lots of people.

So OF COURSE the entire thing must be ripped apart on Topix! How dare anybody do anything here other than have a drunkfest during Canal Days! Everyone will pay for doing this! This is Little Falls, all attempts at something like this shall be severely punished. We'll teach them!
Just Saying

Little Falls, NY

#6 Apr 23, 2013
how dare they wrote:
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A local business hosted a dinner for our very own baseball team.
Was it a business, or was it a non-profit? Last I checked, Decarlo is a non-profit, and yet there it was hosting a for-profit restaurant activity. Our mayor, our assessor, and one of our alderman have drilled it into us that making non-profits pay property taxes if they do ANYTHING outside of their charter, especially make money at retail, is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE confronting Little Falls today, so stifle yerself. This is the Mayor's agenda!
Huh

Little Falls, NY

#7 Apr 23, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
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Was it a business, or was it a non-profit? Last I checked, Decarlo is a non-profit, and yet there it was hosting a for-profit restaurant activity. Our mayor, our assessor, and one of our alderman have drilled it into us that making non-profits pay property taxes if they do ANYTHING outside of their charter, especially make money at retail, is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE confronting Little Falls today, so stifle yerself. This is the Mayor's agenda!
No, no, no ... you have it all wrong. The politicians only want to make the non-profits they or their friends dislike pay property taxes! But their own favorite non-profits can break all the rules in the book, and they won't get in any trouble with the City. Peters will cover for the Italian Vets, and Judas-Style Dave will cover for the Historical Society no matter what they do. The words "fair" and "Little Falls government" just don't belong in the same sentence.
grocery coop

Little Falls, NY

#8 Apr 23, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
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Was it a business, or was it a non-profit? Last I checked, Decarlo is a non-profit, and yet there it was hosting a for-profit restaurant activity. Our mayor, our assessor, and one of our alderman have drilled it into us that making non-profits pay property taxes if they do ANYTHING outside of their charter, especially make money at retail, is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE confronting Little Falls today, so stifle yerself. This is the Mayor's agenda!
Yup...pretty much just like how the YMCA operates a full price, full retail grocery store.

Why don't you go back whacking off at the parks in Utica or the rest areas on the thruway...you are BBBOOOORRRIIINNNGGGGG!!!!
Just Saying

Little Falls, NY

#9 Apr 23, 2013
grocery coop wrote:
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Yup...pretty much just like how the YMCA operates a full price, full retail grocery store.
IMO, the biggest mistake that the board of the YMCA made was to assume that because they are prominent citizens and because they are doing good things for the city, that Peters would not throw them under the bus. But, imo, Peters thinks only of himself and his impulses, so he caved-in to the demands of the out-of-town assessor and her three new friends, and coughed up the YMCA to a very expensive and wasteful property tax dispute. And now the rest is history: we live in a bitter, dysfunctional and divided community owning to the incompetence and selfishness of the mayor. Go Team Peters (as in, go far, far away)!
YMCA

Herkimer, NY

#10 Apr 23, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
Was it a business, or was it a non-profit? Last I checked, Decarlo is a non-profit, and yet there it was hosting a for-profit restaurant activity.
According to the YMCA, it's perfectly legal for a non-profit to turn a profit, so long as the profits are used to further the mission of the non-profit. Or have I misunderstood the Y's reasoning behind the co-op and the Garden Street house, which has been repeated on here ad nauseum?
YMCA

Herkimer, NY

#11 Apr 23, 2013
Huh wrote:
No, no, no ... you have it all wrong. The politicians only want to make the non-profits they or their friends dislike pay property taxes! But their own favorite non-profits can break all the rules in the book, and they won't get in any trouble with the City.
Ah, so now you're saying the Y is "breaking all the rules in the book"?
Just Saying

Little Falls, NY

#12 Apr 23, 2013
YMCA wrote:
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According to the YMCA, it's perfectly legal for a non-profit to turn a profit, so long as the profits are used to further the mission of the non-profit.
But .... according to Joy Presta and Bob Peters, if a non-profit engages in for-profit activities, it should lose its property tax exemption. But ... here's the rub ... Peters and his assessor tried to tax charities they do not like, such as the YMCA and the AOG church and the hospital, and they let the charities they like have a free-pass, like the Italian vets and the Historical Society.

In the normal world, they call that hypocrisy and sometimes even corruption.
YMCA

Herkimer, NY

#13 Apr 23, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
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But .... according to Joy Presta and Bob Peters, if a non-profit engages in for-profit activities, it should lose its property tax exemption. But ... here's the rub ... Peters and his assessor tried to tax charities they do not like, such as the YMCA and the AOG church and the hospital, and they let the charities they like have a free-pass, like the Italian vets and the Historical Society.
In the normal world, they call that hypocrisy and sometimes even corruption.
Just like in a normal world people would call attacking Decarlo for something they defend the Y for doing hypocrisy...

In fact, this might be the first time in my life where I've seen someone be a hypocrite for calling someone else a hypocrite. That's impressive.
duh

Windsor, CT

#14 Apr 23, 2013
YMCA wrote:
<quoted text>According to the YMCA, it's perfectly legal for a non-profit to turn a profit, so long as the profits are used to further the mission of the non-profit. Or have I misunderstood the Y's reasoning behind the co-op and the Garden Street house, which has been repeated on here ad nauseum?
According to the Y? Also according to the state of New York
Just Saying

Little Falls, NY

#15 Apr 23, 2013
duh wrote:
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According to the Y? Also according to the state of New York
No, actually not. We have been over this dozens of times, but non-profits are allowed to earn a profit. In fact, a strong case can be made that the Co-Op and the Decarlo Post both serve important charitable missions with their activities. My point was to showcase the enormous hypocrisy of our mayor in singling out "unpopular" non-profits to attack.
Just Saying

Little Falls, NY

#16 Apr 23, 2013
YMCA wrote:
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Just like in a normal world people would call attacking Decarlo for something they defend the Y for doing hypocrisy...
In fact, this might be the first time in my life where I've seen someone be a hypocrite for calling someone else a hypocrite. That's impressive.
Yeah, we are both on the verge of reversing roles in this debate. It wouldn't be the first time ...

Anyway, I am fine with Decarlo and its catering. It is Peters and his hypocrisy that I object to.
YMCA

Herkimer, NY

#17 Apr 23, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
No, actually not. We have been over this dozens of times, but non-profits are allowed to earn a profit.
So you are attacking Decarlo because...
HaHa

Herkimer, NY

#18 Apr 23, 2013
YMCA wrote:
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So you are attacking Decarlo because...
and turned this into a thread about the Y and co-op again.....really? Oh, and the mayor was there. Food was awful, drinks expensive for there.
CuRiOuS

Little Falls, NY

#19 Apr 24, 2013
HaHa wrote:
Oh, and the mayor was there.
Then how can he sleep at night, knowing what an obvious hypocrite he is? Is he blind, corrupt, or just amazingly stupid?

BTW I have nothing against the Post or the YMCA and I think both are good for Little Falls and should be left alone. I just loathe corrupt and hypocritical politicians who misuse their office for personal vendettas.
Same old sheeot

Little Falls, NY

#20 Apr 24, 2013
Once again, another thread has to be directed back on track. The other posters were right on target. The food was awful (especially for the price), drinks pricey, the speakers rather mediocre (except Buddy, he was good), no auction, and it was not as well attended as past ones. All in all, a pretty piss poor effort put forth by whoever is in charge of this. Well, lets hope it gets improved next year.

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