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Since: Jul 12

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#1 Aug 24, 2012
Tell me the average education level in the Valley.
That depends

Syracuse, NY

#2 Aug 25, 2012
That depends on what you consider education to be. There are many graduates who can not start a weed-whacker or drive a car.

Since: Aug 12

Little Falls, NY

#3 Aug 25, 2012
RCOA wrote:
Tell me the average education level in the Valley.
The Utica-Rome Metropolitan Statistical Area % of adults with:

Level Utica-Rome NY State US
HS Degree 85.5% 84.2% 84.6%
College Degree 20.1% 31.8% 27.5%
Mr Obvious

Syracuse, NY

#4 Aug 25, 2012
education levels can be found here
http://www.city-data.com/city/Little-Falls-Ne...

21% less than HS
34% HS
7% under 1 yr college
8% AS
12%BS
1% PhD
etc see link
go bigger

Leominster, MA

#5 Aug 25, 2012
Mr Obvious wrote:
education levels can be found here
http://www.city-data.com/city/Little-Falls-Ne...
21% less than HS
34% HS
7% under 1 yr college
8% AS
12%BS
1% PhD
etc see link
Hey, Obvious, he said the "valley."
Educator

Herkimer, NY

#6 Aug 25, 2012
It's almost impossible to get statistics for the vernacular region called the "Mohawk Valley," because it is composed of parts and pieces of several counties, cities, etc.

You also need to be a good consumer of the statistics which are available.

When, for example, we see that the Mohawk Valley tends to be just at about the national average of High School Graduates, keep in mind that for some time High School education has been heavily nationalized, and that High Schools are under extreme pressure to graduate roughly the same percentages, regardless of the actual academic achievement levels of the students themselves. A long winded way of saying that the High School Diploma really doesn't mean much anymore.

The really telling and important number is that the Valley has a whole is roughly 35-40% below the Statewide and National percentage in college graduates. Education is not prized as a local cultural value, indeed, it is often denigrated, in order, I suppose, that uneducated and ignorant folk can pretend that they are just as good as anyone else.

Since: Aug 12

Little Falls, NY

#7 Aug 25, 2012
Educator wrote:
It's almost impossible to get statistics for the vernacular region called the "Mohawk Valley," because it is composed of parts and pieces of several counties, cities, etc.
You also need to be a good consumer of the statistics which are available.
When, for example, we see that the Mohawk Valley tends to be just at about the national average of High School Graduates, keep in mind that for some time High School education has been heavily nationalized, and that High Schools are under extreme pressure to graduate roughly the same percentages, regardless of the actual academic achievement levels of the students themselves. A long winded way of saying that the High School Diploma really doesn't mean much anymore.
The really telling and important number is that the Valley has a whole is roughly 35-40% below the Statewide and National percentage in college graduates. Education is not prized as a local cultural value, indeed, it is often denigrated, in order, I suppose, that uneducated and ignorant folk can pretend that they are just as good as anyone else.
I agree with you, for the most part, however I believe that post-secondary education is becoming more of a local cultural value than it used to be.
Mr Obvious

Syracuse, NY

#8 Aug 25, 2012
go bigger wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Obvious, he said the "valley."
Hey Bigger, Utica/Rome is on a flat plain.

The link I provided is the best source.
Just type in St J, Ft Plain, Nelliston, Palatine Bridge, Canjo, and Fonda.

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Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#9 Aug 25, 2012
Why is this of interest.
Whatever the education level... hopefully you are striving for more.

Of course it is relatively low in LF.
The scarcity of jobs in general...
and very few 'office' or administrative jobs.

No surprise.

Since: Aug 12

Little Falls, NY

#10 Aug 25, 2012
Mr Obvious wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Bigger, Utica/Rome is on a flat plain.
The link I provided is the best source.
Just type in St J, Ft Plain, Nelliston, Palatine Bridge, Canjo, and Fonda.
Hey Mr. Obvious-ly dumb, "Utica-Rome" is the name of the statistical area which is comprised of Herkimer & Oneida counties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_census_...
Utter Fool

Little Falls, NY

#11 Aug 25, 2012
UTLT wrote:
Why is this of interest.
Whatever the education level... hopefully you are striving for more.
Of course it is relatively low in LF.
The scarcity of jobs in general...
and very few 'office' or administrative jobs.
No surprise.
Oh great, North Carolina is weighing in! "Of course" higher education is so important in NC that it has an even lower rate of college education attainment than NY State!!
Just Saying

Little Falls, NY

#12 Aug 25, 2012
What the statistics tell us is that our economic development people have been lying for years when they boast about our well trained work force. It doesn't exist and it is a huge problem.
Wondering

Clinton, NY

#14 Aug 25, 2012
RCOA wrote:
Tell me the average education level in the Valley.
Just curious as to why you would and be asking for statistical data on topixs?
Mr Obvious

Syracuse, NY

#15 Aug 25, 2012
Fair PIay wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Mr. Obvious-ly dumb, "Utica-Rome" is the name of the statistical area which is comprised of Herkimer & Oneida counties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_census_...
I don't care. It's not "here" nor is it representative of anything from Frankfort to Fonda. Amsterdam on is "The Capital District.
Utica-Rome is metro as well.
prune juice

United States

#16 Aug 25, 2012
The schools system here is mediocre in every measure of record. The community postures about how wonderful our schools are yet our graduation rate stinks, our kids have lousy test scores and we have a board that is a train wreck.

Old farts like me have been around forever. We know that LF has always been and will continue to be a community that celebrates mediocrity. Successful families are mocked and villified. Success here, especially financial success has always been treated as a bad thing. People in this town would rather have the community ruined by section 8 trash than have to deal with the threat of a successful generation of young families in this community.

Status quo above all else. You can mock my opinions all you want, but it is the truth. Welcome to LF!
SunnySideUP

Herkimer, NY

#17 Aug 25, 2012
prune juice wrote:
People in this town would rather have the community ruined by section 8 trash than have to deal with the threat of a successful generation of young families in this community.
SO TRUE!

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Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#18 Aug 25, 2012
North Carolina is surely behind mighty NYS in education.
But...
NYS... includes NYC and Long Island.
UPSTATE... is a totally different matter.
RURAL UPSTATE... is a special case!

But I still say...
Why ask... what's the difference?
Prince velveeta

Fort Plain, NY

#19 Aug 26, 2012
What does school really teach our children?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m937bjTLwd1...

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Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#20 Aug 26, 2012
PV...
All of those are good lessons as a starting point of education.
Prince velveeta

Fort Plain, NY

#21 Aug 26, 2012
UTLT wrote:
PV...
All of those are good lessons as a starting point of education.[http://www.topix.co m/sports
Why we're one of the last in the free world. I think you're taking that literal, rather thinking deeper.

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