NoOne Ever Donate Artifacts

NoOne Ever Donate Artifacts

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Remember

Little Falls, NY

#1 Oct 2, 2010
We keep on learning.
Anyone who owns artifacts of any significance now knows they cannot be entrusted to the Little Falls Public Library.

Hopefully this knowlege will be passed on through the generations. Make certain that your children remember this betrayal of trust.

The Petrie heirs are devestated, robbed of their family heritage. Robbed also of the money this might have brought to their families had they been given the opportunity to turn their museum donation into quick cash.

Live and learn.
That seems to be all we can do now.
Learn. And don't let anything like this happen again.
Other Avenues

Syracuse, NY

#2 Oct 3, 2010
Remember wrote:
We keep on learning.
Anyone who owns artifacts of any significance now knows they cannot be entrusted to the Little Falls Public Library.
Hopefully this knowlege will be passed on through the generations. Make certain that your children remember this betrayal of trust.
The Petrie heirs are devestated, robbed of their family heritage. Robbed also of the money this might have brought to their families had they been given the opportunity to turn their museum donation into quick cash.
Live and learn.
That seems to be all we can do now.
Learn. And don't let anything like this happen again.
You can donate items that are significant to Little Falls to the Little Falls Historical Society. You can be sure they will not be sold or auctioned.
bigdummy

Little Falls, NY

#3 Oct 3, 2010
Other Avenues wrote:
You can donate items that are significant to Little Falls to the Little Falls Historical Society. You can be sure they will not be sold or auctioned.
How can you be sure? People change and boards change too.
Slush Puppy

Herkimer, NY

#4 Oct 3, 2010
I was told by a board member that the person who took the boxes of items intends to sell them for a profit! All should know who it is and buycot her business. This is theft Mrs Vincent!!!
I Wonder

Little Falls, NY

#5 Oct 3, 2010
Did anyone contact any of the Petrie descendants to inquire about their willingness to alter the purpose of the donation from "For the Museum"?

If the family considered a donation of such artifacts to a fundraiser, then the community still loses, but at least the families wishes are not being betrayed.

I'm certain that they wrote what they wrote on the invitation so that their wishes would survive the test of time.

It would have been nice for these things to have been exhibited for a short period of time before whisking them off to the auction house.

Did the current generation of Petrie's ever lay eyes on these things?
tax question

Bronx, NY

#6 Oct 3, 2010
If someone donates items and writes them off on their income tax as a donation.
Can they be sold and if so what are the ramifications of the library? Since they are a non profit don't they have to takes all monies made and reinvest in the library?
Not right

Bronx, NY

#7 Oct 3, 2010
Slush Puppy wrote:
I was told by a board member that the person who took the boxes of items intends to sell them for a profit! All should know who it is and buycot her business. This is theft Mrs Vincent!!!
if true Mrs Vincent should be asked to resign from the board.
Karma is gonna get ya

United States

#8 Oct 3, 2010
Not right wrote:
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if true Mrs Vincent should be asked to resign from the board.
Actually, all of the Library Board should resign. It's an outrage that no written policies were in place to deal with donations to the Library. There is a huge difference in selling donated books at a book sale and items of historical significance.

The Little Falls Historical Society by their mission statement and charter is to preserve items of historical nature - NOT to sell them.
Other Avenues

Syracuse, NY

#9 Oct 3, 2010
Karma is gonna get ya wrote:
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Actually, all of the Library Board should resign. It's an outrage that no written policies were in place to deal with donations to the Library. There is a huge difference in selling donated books at a book sale and items of historical significance.
The Little Falls Historical Society by their mission statement and charter is to preserve items of historical nature - NOT to sell them.
Absolutely correct on the Library Board and the LF Historical Society! The Historical Society values preservation of historical items.
Concerned With History

Syracuse, NY

#10 Oct 3, 2010
Has anyone discussing here ever visited the Little Falls Historical Society? They keep historic and valuable maps rolled up in the first floor bathroom... others on the wall with thumb tacks and scotch tape.

The basement is a disaster... dirt floor, stone walls and high water table. Sounds like the perfect place to keep historical items.

If it's truly a historical item, spend your own money and preserve it properly. Contact someone in the profession of archiving materials. Keep it in the family so that your grandkids can enjoy it.

“Do SOMETHING !!!”

Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#11 Oct 4, 2010
The real fault...
Lies with past boards and past librarians.
They didn't institute the policies needed.
Ms Phillips was trying to correct the situation.
Certain board members... had other ideas.
They frustrated her efforts.
SURELY this will be a learning experience.

As to the conditions at the Historical Society...
Better and bigger quarters, better funding, more volunteers.

Everything old... isn't historical.
Everything historical... isn't significant.
Sometimes old stuff is simply... JUNK.
Dexter K Fiddlebody PhD

United States

#12 Oct 4, 2010
If there is any more City Property housed at the Library, it should be removed and transfered to the Historical Society. Libraries, and Library asdsociation rules, are for books.
Ted Windy

New York, NY

#13 Oct 4, 2010
If Linda Vincent, or anyone else for that matter took library property and sold it for their personal profit, they should be arrested and tried, if found guilty trhown in jail.
Other Avenues

Syracuse, NY

#14 Oct 4, 2010
UTLT wrote:
The real fault...
Lies with past boards and past librarians.
They didn't institute the policies needed.
Ms Phillips was trying to correct the situation.
Certain board members... had other ideas.
They frustrated her efforts.
SURELY this will be a learning experience.
As to the conditions at the Historical Society...
Better and bigger quarters, better funding, more volunteers.
Everything old... isn't historical.
Everything historical... isn't significant.
Sometimes old stuff is simply... JUNK.
I agree with "everything old isn't historical...." The historical society does need a larger place and definitely more volunteers. As for more funding, that goes without saying. At least the historical society has the common sense and ethical values NOT to sell historically signficant items!
independent

Littleton, CO

#15 Oct 4, 2010
One persons so called 'junk' can possibly been a Treasure to someone else - do you really Trust the Judgment of a Select few calling the shots? Sounds like an Elite bunch of Arty Farty's to me....
Concerned With History

Utica, NY

#16 Oct 5, 2010
Other Avenues wrote:
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I agree with "everything old isn't historical...." The historical society does need a larger place and definitely more volunteers. As for more funding, that goes without saying. At least the historical society has the common sense and ethical values NOT to sell historically signficant items!
But do historically significant items even belong at a LIBRARY?

Donate them to the Historical Society --- or if not, have a fundraiser to preserve the items and keep them.

“Do SOMETHING !!!”

Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#17 Oct 5, 2010
I may be way off-base with this.
What if the upper floors of the library were ceded to the historical society ?
Concerned With History

Utica, NY

#18 Oct 5, 2010
Meaning that the Historical Society could use the upper floors for storage rather than their basement?
Check This Out LOL

New York, NY

#19 Oct 5, 2010
Concerned With History wrote:
Has anyone discussing here ever visited the Little Falls Historical Society? They keep historic and valuable maps rolled up in the first floor bathroom... others on the wall with thumb tacks and scotch tape.
The basement is a disaster... dirt floor, stone walls and high water table. Sounds like the perfect place to keep historical items.
If it's truly a historical item, spend your own money and preserve it properly. Contact someone in the profession of archiving materials. Keep it in the family so that your grandkids can enjoy it.
From what I've heard (from someone who was there),, at the MSF meeting last nite Gressler tried to get MSF involved in this library brouhaha, signing petitions or something like that. Apparently old man Babinec shut him right up and handed his nuts right back to him on a platter. That MSF group is out of control!
Other Avenues

Syracuse, NY

#20 Oct 5, 2010
UTLT wrote:
I may be way off-base with this.
What if the upper floors of the library were ceded to the historical society ?
Interesting concept. However, that would mean keeping library board members from having access to the 3rd floor housing the items (control issue). I don't think certain members of the library board would allow that. I still think a bigger place is needed to be able to display what the historical society has in a better way.

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