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erika2012

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Oct 10, 2012
 
i don't understand why good fathers have to suffer cause of un - fit fathers? i think child support should stop whats they are out of highs school. Also, i love when the child stops going to day care and the mothers don't report right away to child suport or to the fathers.they get away with it. and when do get caught by both, they dont pay the fathers back. mothers should pay them back cause its there money. i dont think its right.
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Oct 10, 2012
 
Who r u complainig, dads girlfriend? The one that said dad shoulnt "bother" fighting for visitation with dauughter?
time for a change

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I don't know what's going on between you two, but the whole child support system and the laws in place do need work. I am happily married. My husband and I have a few children together and he had one from a previous relationship. The amount he is expected to pay each week for that child, on top of covering him on his health insurance and paying half the Co pays is outrageous. he also has to provide the child with clothes, food, shelter, on the weekends. And of course there are birthdays and Christmas. Why is it that the father is basically expected to cover nearly All the mothers expenses. He should only be responsible for half. I did the math and figured out how much of my husbands check goes to that child each week, in comparison to our other children, and it is nearly three times as much as is left over for each of other children. Of course he should take care of all his kids, but this seems unfair. Just because his relationship didn't work out, the rest of his life he will struggle. We're not on welfare. We both work and take care of our family, but his first child will always have more than the rest. Meanwhile, her mother doesn't work, never will, and makes a career out of having children with men, them kicking them out to collect child support. I won't even mention how many. Its really tough on my husband, because he never feels he is able to contribute enough to our home. I think judges need to start thinking of both families when making their rulings. Relationships don't always work out, that's a part of life, but men shouldn't have to be punished for it for the rest of their lives. Life goes on for mom and it should for dad too.
Prince velveeta

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Oct 19, 2012
 
time for a change wrote:
I think judges need to start thinking of both families when making their rulings. Relationships don't always work out, that's a part of life, but men shouldn't have to be punished for it for the rest of their lives. Life goes on for mom and it should for dad too.
Everything the government touches, turn to crap. They want families to break up, and to emasculate fathers. The powers want to lower the population but, wars don't work efficiently and the power of a woman's desire to have children is too powerful for them to control. So, they make men evil and use the system for women to arbitrarily end the family unit and supplement her existence by enslaving the father. How do they convince women to end the family? Exploit their sexual power and convince them they're entitled to be a complete irresponsible whore. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
What is left for fathers to do? Give up. You'd be surprised how many men go through a marriage raising children that aren't their own. All this has created a industry for government and feminists. Why is it there is no male pill? Feminists don't want one and fight it tooth and nail, like this one :http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=JymN5yu-K_o
Judges are afraid to use fairness in fear of retribution of feminist groups. http://articles.submityourarticle.com/the-fut...

Men have no other recourse but to resist. How? giving up and shutting the system down by bankrupting it through passive aggression.
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I saved a ton of cash on my child support by switching to condoms.
Prince velveeta

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Oct 20, 2012
 

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Dude wrote:
I saved a ton of cash on my child support by switching to condoms.
You just lucked out you haven't had a little tart pin hole them. Always bring your own and keep you eye on them.
Windy City

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Oct 21, 2012
 
Prince velveeta wrote:
<quoted text> You just lucked out you haven't had a little tart pin hole them. Always bring your own and keep you eye on them.
You are hilarious! Thanks for the good laugh!

(man, if I ever thought you believed half of what you post, I would be really worried).

At any rate, perhaps a blow-up doll would suffice, in lieu of the above precautions. After all, those "little tarts" (feminists all, I'm sure, because there is nothing a feminist wants more than to be insemininated by some broke hillbilly) have many "wicky wicky ways" of casting spells to loosen the holds of a "French letter" and thereby set free your precious precious seed! O Joy! ;)
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Windy City wrote:
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You are hilarious! Thanks for the good laugh!
(man, if I ever thought you believed half of what you post, I would be really worried).
At any rate, perhaps a blow-up doll would suffice, in lieu of the above precautions. After all, those "little tarts" (feminists all, I'm sure, because there is nothing a feminist wants more than to be insemininated by some broke hillbilly) have many "wicky wicky ways" of casting spells to loosen the holds of a "French letter" and thereby set free your precious precious seed! O Joy! ;)
You might actually be weirder than PV.
Not alone

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Oct 22, 2012
 
time for a change wrote:
I don't know what's going on between you two, but the whole child support system and the laws in place do need work. I am happily married. My husband and I have a few children together and he had one from a previous relationship. The amount he is expected to pay each week for that child, on top of covering him on his health insurance and paying half the Co pays is outrageous. he also has to provide the child with clothes, food, shelter, on the weekends. And of course there are birthdays and Christmas. Why is it that the father is basically expected to cover nearly All the mothers expenses. He should only be responsible for half. I did the math and figured out how much of my husbands check goes to that child each week, in comparison to our other children, and it is nearly three times as much as is left over for each of other children. Of course he should take care of all his kids, but this seems unfair. Just because his relationship didn't work out, the rest of his life he will struggle. We're not on welfare. We both work and take care of our family, but his first child will always have more than the rest. Meanwhile, her mother doesn't work, never will, and makes a career out of having children with men, them kicking them out to collect child support. I won't even mention how many. Its really tough on my husband, because he never feels he is able to contribute enough to our home. I think judges need to start thinking of both families when making their rulings. Relationships don't always work out, that's a part of life, but men shouldn't have to be punished for it for the rest of their lives. Life goes on for mom and it should for dad too.
I totally agree with this. I pay a ridiculous amount of money to my ex, that sits on her ass, and collects as well. I struggle to keep gas in my car, just to hold my job, so she can be lazy! Fathers get it stuck in their ass, and that's the way it is
Prince velveeta

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Oct 22, 2012
 
Windy City wrote:
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You are hilarious! Thanks for the good laugh!
(man, if I ever thought you believed half of what you post, I would be really worried).
At any rate, perhaps a blow-up doll would suffice, in lieu of the above precautions. After all, those "little tarts" (feminists all, I'm sure, because there is nothing a feminist wants more than to be insemininated by some broke hillbilly) have many "wicky wicky ways" of casting spells to loosen the holds of a "French letter" and thereby set free your precious precious seed! O Joy! ;)
Who said anything about feminists popping holes? I happen to know a guy that this happened to, and she felt so guilty she admitted it to his sister . She felt that they were about to break up, so she sabotaged his condoms. Your reply is a Feminist standard procedure of denial. Who's desire to procreate is stronger, a man's or woman's? What guy these days in his right mind, wants to be attached to some wacko and lose 17% or more of his income for 21 years? Your reasoning is so laughable. So, why the resistance to the male pill?
Right

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Nov 6, 2012
 

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erika2012 wrote:
i don't understand why good fathers have to suffer cause of un - fit fathers? i think child support should stop whats they are out of highs school. Also, i love when the child stops going to day care and the mothers don't report right away to child suport or to the fathers.they get away with it. and when do get caught by both, they dont pay the fathers back. mothers should pay them back cause its there money. i dont think its right.
You are absolutely right. That's exactly what goes on. Good fathers that try hard, get it stuck right in their ass, just so the lazy mother, can sit around and collect. And yes, they always get away with it! Lazy Bitch!
00 buck

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Nov 6, 2012
 
amen
now holdup a min

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I have a friend who has worked all her life n supports her children. She asked help from her ex who was being a good guy and helping but then started up with some other woman n just like that child support ceased and she was forced to take him to court n now he pays something like 11 a week what a joke you know he sits around getting drunk/high but cant do more to help out with their daughter..point is hes not struggling and she is...courts need to realize games like his n force parents to get a job n actually pay child support hell she cant even buy her daughter a pair of jeans with
Paula

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Nov 9, 2012
 
erika2012 wrote:
i don't understand why good fathers have to suffer cause of un - fit fathers? i think child support should stop whats they are out of highs school. Also, i love when the child stops going to day care and the mothers don't report right away to child suport or to the fathers.they get away with it. and when do get caught by both, they dont pay the fathers back. mothers should pay them back cause its there money. i dont think its right.
It's what it is but if you're a girlfriend / wife I don't think it's any of your business . He has a child ...support it & maybe he's behind in support , reason he don't get it back . Don't have anymore .
Father

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Nov 11, 2012
 
Prince velveeta wrote:
<quoted text> Who said anything about feminists popping holes? I happen to know a guy that this happened to, and she felt so guilty she admitted it to his sister . She felt that they were about to break up, so she sabotaged his condoms. Your reply is a Feminist standard procedure of denial. Who's desire to procreate is stronger, a man's or woman's? What guy these days in his right mind, wants to be attached to some wacko and lose 17% or more of his income for 21 years? Your reasoning is so laughable. So, why the resistance to the male pill?
17%, where you been? They can take up to 65% of your disposable income if you are in the arrears.
Prince velveeta

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Nov 11, 2012
 
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17%, where you been? They can take up to 65% of your disposable income if you are in the arrears.
DAYUUUuuummmm!
time for a change

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Nov 15, 2012
 
Paula, first off i can barely understand what you are saying. He is not behind, only makes twelve dollars an hour and pays 600 a month. That is a mortgage payment! And like I said, he takes damn good care of all his kids, or he would just quit working, be a bum and not pay child support like some men do. just think it a little unfair that we have to buy big screen tvs for a baby factory with a father for every day of the week. His kid doesn't benefit from that 600 a month like he should. I wish we could spend 600 a month on each of our kids. Dads should most certainly be paying half the childs expenses, but mom knew what she was getting into having a baby, and she should have to get a job and support her kids too. It doesn't cost me 1200 a month (600 * 2, moms half + dads half) per child to raise my kids, thats outrageous.
time for a change

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Nov 15, 2012
 
Now holdup a min, your just trying to argue. Obviously i was not implying that we should cut dead beat dads a break. That guy is obviously a scumbag and I am very sorry that she has to deal with that, but she can fight to either make him get a job or go to jail. Paying support is the law, and 11 dollars sounds a bit ridiculous. She should go back to court. Her situation and the one i am talking about are very different.
On the boat

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Nov 15, 2012
 

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The court will not make him get a job. The best you can hope for if he's not working is $25 a month which is the state minimum for one child. If he still does not pay you can take him back for a violation of the order. Which then you have to prove that he is willfully violating the support order, which then he is entitled to a free lawyer to defend himself and you have to pay for one if you choose to have one. The most he would get is 5 days in jail, and that's only if he does not pay anything in the 4 months it takes you to get this verdict. If he starts making payments herkimer court will throw the whole case out with no punishment for the deadbeat dad.
No I'm not wrong, no I'm not stupid. I have been doing this for years. Working mothers get no where with the Herkimer court
Deadbeat Father

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I guess it's a matter of a man's priority. My Dad was ordered to pay $15 a month for each child, meaning he was supposed to pay $30 a month! He and my stepmonster fought that and whined and complained until the day he died. My sibling and I went without in every way while his other children had BMW's, Mustangs, and other brand new cars, as well as private schools and the best clothing. That's my example of a man: pathetic loser who avoided responsibilty for kids he chose to have and spent money on who and what he wanted.

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