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Reasonable

Little Falls, NY

#1 Mar 5, 2013
Well, going into tonight's Common Council meeting, the Mayor still has not complied with the council vote to drop the matter with respect to the Y.

Who does he think he is, anyway? What is left for this City, at this point, other than to begin impeachment proceedings?
Nope

United States

#2 Mar 5, 2013
The public outcry is already starting to dwindle, as usual. Peters just needs to wait this out. He'll be fine. The citizenry will simply roll over as they always do.
explain it to you again

Ilion, NY

#3 Mar 5, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
Well, going into tonight's Common Council meeting, the Mayor still has not complied with the council vote to drop the matter with respect to the Y.
Who does he think he is, anyway? What is left for this City, at this point, other than to begin impeachment proceedings?
You are really starting to annoy me. For the umpteenth time, the mayor can not be "impeached." Why are you so stupid? Did you fail 5th grade then quit school altogether? You anti-Mayor morons just crack me up with your stupidity...please let someone smarter than you start posts, okay?

New York law provides that a mayor may be removed from office by the governor. New York Public Officers Law section 33.2 provides:

2. The chief executive officer of every city and the chief or commissioner of police, commissioner or director of public safety or other chief executive officer of the police force by whatever title he may be designated, of every city may be removed by the governor after giving to such officer a copy of the charges against him and an opportunity to be heard in his defense. The power of removal provided for in this subdivision shall be deemed to be in addition to the power of removal provided for in any other law. The provisions of this subdivision shall apply notwithstanding any inconsistent provisions of any general, special or local law, ordinance or city charter.
Reasonable

Little Falls, NY

#4 Mar 5, 2013
OK, then, if we can't impeach the Mayor, why don't we just disband the Common Council, then?

What's the point of having a Common Council if their resolutions can just be ignored by the Mayor with inpunity?
Question

New York, NY

#5 Mar 5, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
Well, going into tonight's Common Council meeting, the Mayor still has not complied with the council vote to drop the matter with respect to the Y.
Who does he think he is, anyway? What is left for this City, at this point, other than to begin impeachment proceedings?
What do you mean? What is Peters doing to the Y still?
Future man

Albany, NY

#6 Mar 5, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
OK, then, if we can't impeach the Mayor, why don't we just disband the Common Council, then?
What's the point of having a Common Council if their resolutions can just be ignored by the Mayor with inpunity?
People have been asking that same question since 1952.
It's time to get a Manager in that Mayor's seat -a professional.
Council? Appoint a council. Appoint people with diverse and USEFUL talents.(Telling us what things were like in 1937 is NOT a useful talent)
The city may have shrunk but the world has grown much larger.
We are no longer just an isolated community on the Mohawk.
We are "global citizens".
Peters can't keep up. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Why try? Shoot, the man still licks self advesive stamps.
Where's it gonna end?

Put a forward thinking techno-wizard in there. Someone good with money. Buy properties as investments or rip them down. Get disposal permits for the quarry. Law in your way? CHANGE IT. Put powerplants on some small streams. Install LED Street lamps. Consider a small reactor. Tell NATGRID to get stuffed. Fix the water main. Stop taxing businesses out of existence. Screw Main St. It's been gone for years. No one's missed it. Obviously we don't need it. Stop with the new police cars and ambulances. Let the hospital handle the ambulance. They are the only ones benefiting from it. Clean up Ann. What are city workers and all that equipment for? And, when people show up at a council meeting, open the balcony. What? Problems up there? Paint peeling? Fix it.

Peters and most of that Council have NO Interest in the future. They won't even be there for it. HOW can we really expect them to care about our future?
mayor council govt

Ilion, NY

#7 Mar 5, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
OK, then, if we can't impeach the Mayor, why don't we just disband the Common Council, then?
What's the point of having a Common Council if their resolutions can just be ignored by the Mayor with inpunity?
Read our City Charter and learn something rather than just spout off like a child. Here's the important part...

"no resolution or ordinance of the common council shall have any force or effect, or be deemed to have been enacted by the common council, unless either it be approved by the mayor, or be not returned by the mayor to the city clerk within ten days after the receipt thereof by him, or unless it be passed over the mayor's veto in pursuance of this section."

If you don't like the way the City is chartered, change it. In the meantime, grow up and stop acting like a child. There are a lot of things I don't like but I don't drone on and whine about it on Topix.

Here's the full text:

§ 51 Mayor's approval and veto.—Every resolution or ordinance of the common council, except rules for its own government and resolutions for the appointment of officers, shall before it takes effect be presented, duly certified by the clerk, to the mayor. If the mayor approve thereof, he shall sign it within ten days after the receipt thereof by him, and file it so signed with the city clerk. If the mayor does not approve it, he shall within ten days after the receipt thereof by him return it to the city clerk with his objection thereto in writing, and a statement that he does not approve thereof, and it shall have no force or effect unless the common council shall thereafter reconsider it and pass it over the mayor's veto by the concurring vote of at least two more than one-half of the total number of aldermen, which vote shall be taken by ayes and noes and entered on the minutes together with the objections of the mayor. If any such resolution or ordinance so presented to the mayor shall not be returned by him to the city clerk within ten days after the receipt thereof by the mayor, it shall on the expiration of such ten days have the same force and effect as if it had been approved by him and filed with the city clerk. If any such resolution contain one or more items appropriating money, the mayor may sign it with a written statement appended thereto, that he objects to one or more of such items, and each item so objected to shall have no force or effect unless each such item be reconsidered separately by the common council and passed over the mayor's veto in the same manner as a resolution wholly vetoed. Except rules for the government of the common council and appointments to office, no resolution or ordinance of the common council shall have any force or effect, or be deemed to have been enacted by the common council, unless either it be approved by the mayor, or be not returned by the mayor to the city clerk within ten days after the receipt thereof by him, or unless it be passed over the mayor's veto in pursuance of this section.
a little birdie told me

New York, NY

#8 Mar 5, 2013
It turns out that Peters has been lying to the Common Council and the newspapers about dropping the witch-hunt against the YMCA. It isn't the first time he's been caught lying to the newspapers and the Common Council either; he got caught lying about the quarry rezoning and the insurance on the Ho Ho building. A leopard doesn't change its spots

Peters is still going after the YMCA with both barrels, and the Common Council caught him at it. You can kiss the Co-Op goodbye, because Peters will do whatever it takes to close it now. Now this is personal, and Peters refuses to accept defeat, even if it is the will of the people.

Don't say I didn't tell you so, because I said this is exactly what would happen the day after the Council passed Res. 18.
just speculating

New York, NY

#9 Mar 5, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
Well, going into tonight's Common Council meeting, the Mayor still has not complied with the council vote to drop the matter with respect to the Y.
Who does he think he is, anyway? What is left for this City, at this point, other than to begin impeachment proceedings?
I think there will be a real show at the common council meeting tonite. People are really angry. Bring a wet handkerchief!
Pertinent question

Little Falls, NY

#10 Mar 5, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
OK, then, if we can't impeach the Mayor, why don't we just disband the Common Council, then?
What's the point of having a Common Council if their resolutions can just be ignored by the Mayor with inpunity?
The pertinent question, it would seem, would be is the resolution binding or non-binding? If it's non-binding he has every right to ignore it. I'm not saying it would be right, but that's the black and white.
Pertinent question

Little Falls, NY

#11 Mar 5, 2013
Future man wrote:
Peters and most of that Council have NO Interest in the future. They won't even be there for it. HOW can we really expect them to care about our future?
This from someone who says "Screw Main Street, noone's missed it".
explain it to you again

Ilion, NY

#12 Mar 5, 2013
Pertinent question wrote:
<quoted text>
The pertinent question, it would seem, would be is the resolution binding or non-binding? If it's non-binding he has every right to ignore it. I'm not saying it would be right, but that's the black and white.
Read post #7 above.
Pertinent question

Little Falls, NY

#13 Mar 5, 2013
explain it to you again wrote:
Read post #7 above.
Explain it to me again would require you having explained it to me before. I hadn't read that post yet.
chirp chirp

Wethersfield, CT

#14 Mar 5, 2013
It seems Gressler and Tony have added 16 items to the originally voted on resolution. It is my understanding The mayor won't sign it until it reflects what was actually voted on. If you are looking to blame someone, look no further then Jeff.
a little birdie told me wrote:
It turns out that Peters has been lying to the Common Council and the newspapers about dropping the witch-hunt against the YMCA. It isn't the first time he's been caught lying to the newspapers and the Common Council either; he got caught lying about the quarry rezoning and the insurance on the Ho Ho building. A leopard doesn't change its spots
Peters is still going after the YMCA with both barrels, and the Common Council caught him at it. You can kiss the Co-Op goodbye, because Peters will do whatever it takes to close it now. Now this is personal, and Peters refuses to accept defeat, even if it is the will of the people.
Don't say I didn't tell you so, because I said this is exactly what would happen the day after the Council passed Res. 18.
Reasonable

Little Falls, NY

#15 Mar 7, 2013
Well, after this mornings news, does anyone still doubt we need to impeach?
my two cents

New York, NY

#16 Mar 7, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
Well, after this mornings news, does anyone still doubt we need to impeach?
At this point the YMCA or MSF needs to organize a sit-in to take over city hall. Or maybe a riot. Something has to be done, and we can never again believe anything that Booby Peters says since he has lost all credibility and shown himself to be a pathological liar.
cant impeach the mayor

Ilion, NY

#17 Mar 7, 2013
Reasonable wrote:
Well, after this mornings news, does anyone still doubt we need to impeach?
Can't impeach the mayor.

New York law provides that a mayor may be removed from office by the governor. New York Public Officers Law section 33.2 provides:

2. The chief executive officer of every city and the chief or commissioner of police, commissioner or director of public safety or other chief executive officer of the police force by whatever title he may be designated, of every city may be removed by the governor after giving to such officer a copy of the charges against him and an opportunity to be heard in his defense. The power of removal provided for in this subdivision shall be deemed to be in addition to the power of removal provided for in any other law. The provisions of this subdivision shall apply notwithstanding any inconsistent provisions of any general, special or local law, ordinance or city charter.
Pogo

Little Falls, NY

#18 Mar 7, 2013
Impeach the lying sack of s#it anyhow.
Link

New York, NY

#19 Mar 7, 2013
Pogo wrote:
Impeach the lying sack of s#it anyhow.
Exactly! Peters ignores state and local law all the time. So let's ignore local law too and just impeach the lying filthy dog.
oops

Little Falls, NY

#20 Mar 7, 2013
Here's where Bobby went wrong. Let's get on with things, then.
mayor council govt wrote:
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...If any such resolution or ordinance so presented to the mayor shall not be returned by him to the city clerk within ten days after the receipt thereof by the mayor, it shall on the expiration of such ten days have the same force and effect as if it had been approved by him and filed with the city clerk.

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