common council meeting tonight

common council meeting tonight

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taxpayer

Little Falls, NY

#1 Feb 5, 2013
for the folks who only want to bellyache... here's your chance to hear and be heard. tonight 7:00 p.m. city hall. don't say you didn't know. it's no longer valid.
LFTP

Moravia, NY

#2 Feb 5, 2013
http://www.cityoflittlefalls.net/commoncounci...

TENTATIVE
AGENDA
COMMON COUNCIL
Regular Session
February 5, 2013
Common Council Chambers
Meeting called by: Robert J. Peters Sr., Mayor
Secretary: Kira Andrilla, City Clerk
Attendees: Alderman Mark Ruffing
Alderwoman Elizabeth Deming
Alderwoman Patricia Long
Alderman Richard Congdon
Alderman Douglas Barnes
Alderman Ronald Petrie
Alderman Jeffrey Gressler
Alderman David Burleson
Agenda Topics
Pledge
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
Approval of Bills
Approval of Monthly Report
Resolution #14 – Board of Public Works – Vactor
Resolution #15 – Agreement between the City School District and the City Police Dept.
Resolution # 16 – NYS Contact Information for Vacant Structures
Resolution#17 – Herkimer County Human Society Agreement
City to City Message – Mayor Peters
Unfinished Business
New Business
Mayor Comments
Comments from the floor
Adjournment
Copies of the Agenda and attachments are available in the City Clerk’s office upon
Request. Please not that the agenda is subject to change. Thank you
Ummmmm

Long Eddy, NY

#3 Feb 5, 2013
Ok.
Now, what's the real agenda?

Meeting called to order
(Someone wake Betty)
Roll call
The Mayor addresses the group:
"My way or the Highway"
Turn off guest mic
Take questions
City lawyer gets so angry he spews
Roll call
Roll call (in case someone left)
Roll call (Double check)
Kool aide and cookies.
Adjurned
I Want to Know

Herkimer, NY

#4 Feb 5, 2013
I hear the Common Council unanimously passed some sort of resolution telling the city to give up the effort to tax the YMCA and end the law suit, and resolved that they would not pay any future legal bills relating to pursuing the law suit. I also hear that Peters is seriously contemplating just ignoring the resolution and telling the Common Council to go fly a kite. Is this what happened? And how can Peters just ignore the unanimous Council?
Herkimer Co Human Society

Little Falls, NY

#5 Feb 5, 2013
LFTP wrote:
http://www.cityoflittlefalls.n et/commoncouncil/February%2020 13%20Common%20Council%20Agenda .pdf
TENTATIVE
AGENDA
COMMON COUNCIL
Regular Session
February 5, 2013
Common Council Chambers
Meeting called by: Robert J. Peters Sr., Mayor
Secretary: Kira Andrilla, City Clerk
Attendees: Alderman Mark Ruffing
Alderwoman Elizabeth Deming
Alderwoman Patricia Long
Alderman Richard Congdon
Alderman Douglas Barnes
Alderman Ronald Petrie
Alderman Jeffrey Gressler
Alderman David Burleson
Agenda Topics
Pledge
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
Approval of Bills
Approval of Monthly Report
Resolution #14 – Board of Public Works – Vactor
Resolution #15 – Agreement between the City School District and the City Police Dept.
Resolution # 16 – NYS Contact Information for Vacant Structures
Resolution#17 – Herkimer County Human Society Agreement
City to City Message – Mayor Peters
Unfinished Business
New Business
Mayor Comments
Comments from the floor
Adjournment
Copies of the Agenda and attachments are available in the City Clerk’s office upon
Request. Please not that the agenda is subject to change. Thank you
Yes, the link to the City agenda pdf did indicate Resolution N0.17 to renew the contract with the Herkimer County Human Society. Thus, proof that there are indeed humans in Herkimer County. Please not that the agenda was subject to change, however.
Priceless

Moravia, NY

#6 Feb 5, 2013
Herkimer Co Human Society wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the link to the City agenda pdf did indicate Resolution N0.17 to renew the contract with the Herkimer County Human Society. Thus, proof that there are indeed humans in Herkimer County. Please not that the agenda was subject to change, however.
City Clerk= priceless or clueless.
I already know

Hartford, CT

#7 Feb 5, 2013
You're a moron. Keep stirring the pot....
I Want to Know wrote:
I hear the Common Council unanimously passed some sort of resolution telling the city to give up the effort to tax the YMCA and end the law suit, and resolved that they would not pay any future legal bills relating to pursuing the law suit. I also hear that Peters is seriously contemplating just ignoring the resolution and telling the Common Council to go fly a kite. Is this what happened? And how can Peters just ignore the unanimous Council?
Zombie

Little Falls, NY

#8 Feb 5, 2013
LFTP wrote:
http://www.cityoflittlefalls.n et/commoncouncil/February%2020 13%20Common%20Council%20Agenda .pdf
TENTATIVE
AGENDA
COMMON COUNCIL
Regular Session
February 5, 2013
Common Council Chambers
Meeting called by: Robert J. Peters Sr., Mayor
Secretary: Kira Andrilla, City Clerk
Attendees: Alderman Mark Ruffing
Alderwoman Elizabeth Deming
Alderwoman Patricia Long
Alderman Richard Congdon
Alderman Douglas Barnes
Alderman Ronald Petrie
Alderman Jeffrey Gressler
Alderman David Burleson
Agenda Topics
Pledge
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
Approval of Bills
Approval of Monthly Report
Resolution #14 – Board of Public Works – Vactor
Resolution #15 – Agreement between the City School District and the City Police Dept.
Resolution # 16 – NYS Contact Information for Vacant Structures
Resolution#17 – Herkimer County Human Society Agreement
City to City Message – Mayor Peters
Unfinished Business
New Business
Mayor Comments
Comments from the floor
Adjournment
Copies of the Agenda and attachments are available in the City Clerk’s office upon
Request. Please not that the agenda is subject to change. Thank you
The Herkimer County Human Society.

An outnumbered group if ever there was.
dumb yokels

Caldwell, NJ

#9 Feb 5, 2013
A bunch of blowhards on Topix. Not surprisingly, none of you attended the meeting. Too busy? Ya right. Anyone who has time to post on this site has time to spare. Typical yokel foolishness.
WTH

Herkimer, NY

#10 Feb 6, 2013
I Want to Know wrote:
I also hear that Peters is seriously contemplating just ignoring the resolution and telling the Common Council to go fly a kite. Is this what happened? And how can Peters just ignore the unanimous Council?
That is what Peters told the OD last night: http://www.uticaod.com/news/x930796097/Little... ... he said it is out of his hands and the lawsuit will proceed. WTH!!!??? Has Peters given control of city policy to some Utica shyster lawyer now??? RESIGN you stubborn old oaf!!!

And where was Rose last night? The paper said he played hooky. Was that another message the administration was sending the council? Does Peters think he has become some sort of dictator who runs the City his way regardless of what the voters and their elected representatives have to say???

It is time for IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!
WTH

Herkimer, NY

#11 Feb 6, 2013
I already know wrote:
You're a moron. Keep stirring the pot....<quoted text>
You're a moron. He/she called it like the newspaper reported it. Keep living in your fantasy world while Peters runs roughshod over every institution in this city, to include the Common Council. YOU are half the reason the YMCA is in this state now, with your conciliatory approach of trying to make peace with the beast. Well, Peters has the utmost contempt for everyone who get in his way, to include the YMCA Board and now the Common Council. He will simply ignore you all and do what he wants.
Ward 3

Little Falls, NY

#12 Feb 6, 2013
It was a GREAT meeting. Excellent job, Mr.Petrie! Mr. Gressler's remarks were respectful and spot-on. The people and their reps have spoken.

Hate to say it but perhaps impeachment of this Mayor should be looked at. I don't know what he could possibly be thinking. He is bad for this City.

Mr Rose, I submit, is a coward.

Spoken from Ward 3. But I am not alone.

Thank you.
Zombie

Little Falls, NY

#13 Feb 6, 2013
WTH wrote:
<quoted text>
That is what Peters told the OD last night: http://www.uticaod.com/news/x930796097/Little... ... he said it is out of his hands and the lawsuit will proceed. WTH!!!??? Has Peters given control of city policy to some Utica shyster lawyer now??? RESIGN you stubborn old oaf!!!
And where was Rose last night? The paper said he played hooky. Was that another message the administration was sending the council? Does Peters think he has become some sort of dictator who runs the City his way regardless of what the voters and their elected representatives have to say???
It is time for IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!
Hey, relax a day or so and let this play out, and in particular remember that Bob isn't exactly the brightest bulb. He's stupid, yes, and stubborn, but he's not the complete and utter idiot that so many people think that he is. He'll figure this out.

Now, I don't think the Common Council can order him to drop the lawsuit. But they do have the power of the purse, and they used it last night like a nuclear bomb. They resolved not to pay any further attorney fees associated with this case. Which means the attorneys know that if they continue to work for the City on this, they won't be getting paid for it. So, they won't. Which means that the only way Peters and Presta can continue this is to go into the courtroom without counsel, and explain to the judge that they City doesn't have an attorney because the City won't pay for one.

Bob's only choice now is just how much he wants to get laughed at and ridiculed. His telling the paper "it's out of my hands" is essentially his way of making the point that he is not getting ordered around by the Common Council, but he is doing nothing, in other words, letting it drop with whatever scraps of dignity he can still muster after getting humiliated last night.
Zombie

Little Falls, NY

#14 Feb 6, 2013
Ward 3 wrote:
It was a GREAT meeting. Excellent job, Mr.Petrie! Mr. Gressler's remarks were respectful and spot-on. The people and their reps have spoken.
Hate to say it but perhaps impeachment of this Mayor should be looked at. I don't know what he could possibly be thinking. He is bad for this City.
Mr Rose, I submit, is a coward.
Spoken from Ward 3. But I am not alone.
Thank you.
Hey, remember that Mr. Rose is not an elected official, and really has no role at the Common Council. Despite his tendency to comment on non-legal matters, his sole role is as a consultant on legal issues. And since there were no legal issues under discussion last night, there was no specific reason for him to attend. And surely, if the members of the council to have specific legal questions for him, they can ask outside of the meeting just as well.
I Was There

New York, NY

#15 Feb 6, 2013
Zombie wrote:
in other words, letting it drop with whatever scraps of dignity he can still muster after getting humiliated last night.
Interesting analysis. Still, I have seen Peters do some remarkably irrational things, so I am not completely convinced.

Anyway, did you see how red and tight his face got as Ron was reading the resolution? I thought the poor old guy was going to drop dead on the spot of apoplexy.

And what is up with the City Attorney's absence? Responding to a resolution like that would have been a fine time to get some qualified legal advice. Are the rumors I've heard about him true?
what advice

Moravia, NY

#16 Feb 6, 2013
I Was There wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting analysis. Still, I have seen Peters do some remarkably irrational things, so I am not completely convinced.
Anyway, did you see how red and tight his face got as Ron was reading the resolution? I thought the poor old guy was going to drop dead on the spot of apoplexy.
And what is up with the City Attorney's absence? Responding to a resolution like that would have been a fine time to get some qualified legal advice. Are the rumors I've heard about him true?
There's no advice needed.The council passed a resolution not to pay anymore legal bills.They do not need legal council to do that.
My Thought

West Hartford, CT

#17 Feb 6, 2013
I believe he said it was out of the city's hands. I would gather that the state court will follow through anyways. It never really was up to the city how this played out, it is in the process and back room deals and favors won't stop it. This should of been squashed long ago, and handled badly on both sides. I have heard the AG is involved, and we will see how it all ends.
WTH wrote:
<quoted text>
That is what Peters told the OD last night: http://www.uticaod.com/news/x930796097/Little... ... he said it is out of his hands and the lawsuit will proceed. WTH!!!??? Has Peters given control of city policy to some Utica shyster lawyer now??? RESIGN you stubborn old oaf!!!
And where was Rose last night? The paper said he played hooky. Was that another message the administration was sending the council? Does Peters think he has become some sort of dictator who runs the City his way regardless of what the voters and their elected representatives have to say???
It is time for IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!
Sea Lawyer

Utica, NY

#18 Feb 6, 2013
what advice wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no advice needed.The council passed a resolution not to pay anymore legal bills.They do not need legal council to do that.
Exactly. Anyone can decide at any time to drop a lawsuit. It's when you decide to continue a lawsuit that you need attorneys.
what advice

Moravia, NY

#19 Feb 6, 2013
Sea Lawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. Anyone can decide at any time to drop a lawsuit. It's when you decide to continue a lawsuit that you need attorneys.
We both know that will not happen. That's the mayor's ego talking.
It's dead in the water.
Bobby Mulligan

Little Falls, NY

#22 Feb 6, 2013
Never seen Bobby like that. The agony of defeat!

Perhaps now he will think about what it really ought to mean to be mayor of OUR city. He has failed to listen to the people and now WE ARE ROARING.

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