Inmates Use Newspaper's Gun Map to Threaten Guards

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Indy

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Jan 5, 2013
 
Inmates Use Newspaper's Gun Map to Threaten Guards
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/...
The entirely predictable consequences of the Journal News' decision to publish a map of gun-owners marches on…
Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco, who spoke at a news conference flanked by other county officials, said the Journal News' decision to post an online map of names and addresses of handgun owners Dec. 23 has put law enforcement officers in danger.
"They have inmates coming up to them and telling them exactly where they live. That's not acceptable to me," Falco said, according to Newsday.
Robert Riley, an officer with the White Plains Police Department and president of its Patrolman’s Benevolent Association, agreed.
"You have guys who work in New York City who live up here. Now their names and addresses are out there, too," he said adding that there are 8,000 active and retired NYPD officers currently living in Rockland County.
Local lawmakers also say that they intend to introduce legislation that prevents information about legal gun owners from being released to the public.
Please don't offer the Journal News' editorial staff an easy out by claiming they're too dumb or ill-informed to have possibly seen this coming. That a decision to publish the names and addresses of legal gun owners would prove useful to our criminal class had to be part of the editorial team's calculation. But because they're obviously a bunch of out-of-control, anti-gun zealots, they likely considered the fallout worth it.
There is one consequence the editors might not have seen coming, though, and that was the map spooking those who didn’t own a firearm into getting one:
Legis. Aron Wieder (D-Spring Valley) called the publication of the list "irresponsible journalism" and said he now fears for his safety because the map broadcast that he does not have a gun license. At the news conference Friday morning, he handed a $150 certified check and a completed pistol permit application to Rockland County Clerk Paul Piperato.
"I never owned a gun but now I have no choice," Wieder said. "I have been exposed as someone that has no gun. And I'll do anything, anything to protect my family."
This is what happens when you allow left-wing activists to control a newsroom. In a fit of misguided, self-righteous indignation, they run amok. This is also what happens when a newsroom operates in what we can only assume is a left-wing bubble. As we all know, the Left's idea of "diversity" never includes a diversity of opinion. So when everyone thinks exactly alike, there's no one with a different and more grounded worldview to talk you down.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/ex-burgl...
Ex-Burglars Say Newspaper’s Gun Map Would’ve Made the Job Easier, Safer
Reformed crooks say the New York newspaper that published a map of names and addresses of gun owners did a great service – to their old cronies in the burglary trade.
“That was the most asinine article I’ve ever seen,” said Walter T. Shaw, 65, a former burglar and jewel thief who the FBI blames for more than 3,000 break-ins that netted some $70 million in the 1960s and 1970s.“Having a list of who has a gun is like gold - why rob that house when you can hit the one next door, where there are no guns?
"What they did was insanity," added Shaw, author of "License to Steal," a book about his criminal career.
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Jan 5, 2013
 

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This is a perfect example of why I have such a love hate relationship with the first amendment. The freedom of speach can never be taken from us even when abused by misguided organisations to push for their own misguided agendas at the expense of completely inocent people. I sometimes wonder if there should have been an additional amendment restricting the use of one amendment against another.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
That newspaper was completely irresponsible.

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Jan 6, 2013
 
BUT...
The information was available to any who asked.
It is public information, although not readily available.
Burglar's and ex-cons could all avail themselves of it...
and seemingly still can.
read it and weep

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By the end of the day today I can find out the name of every member of that newspaper's staff, publish their name, address, DOB and Social Security Number complete with their credit scores, civil liens, judgments, bankruptcies, tax information, driving records, employment records, education records, criminal records etc... Anyone can do it with the newspaper employee's name
Indy

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http://bossip.com/705189/shook-ones-ny-newspa...
Shook Ones: NY Newspaper That Printed Gun Owners Home Addresses Hires Armed Guards To Protect Headquarters!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/...
Gun Owner-Outing Newspaper User Database Hacked, Customers Outed
SGT Friday

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Jan 6, 2013
 
UTLT wrote:
BUT...
The information was available to any who asked.
It is public information, although not readily available.
Burglar's and ex-cons could all avail themselves of it...
and seemingly still can.
The law allowing it was written before the advent of the internet.
The man who let the info out is a pedant -"letter of the law"- kinda idjit. I saw him on TV. He is clearly unable to think on his feet and has no business being a county clerk. He doesn't know the difference between doing things right, and doing the right thing.
Just because he could release that info doesn't mean he should have and any reasonably prudent clerk would not have.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
Indy wrote:
http://bossip.com/705189/shook -ones-ny-newspaper-that-printe d-gun-owners-home-addresses-hi res-armed-guards-to-protect-he adquarters-43081/
Shook Ones: NY Newspaper That Printed Gun Owners Home Addresses Hires Armed Guards To Protect Headquarters!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/...
Gun Owner-Outing Newspaper User Database Hacked, Customers Outed
ROFL

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Jan 6, 2013
 
The law may have been written before the internet...
granted!
But the internet doesn't increase, or decrease, the right of the public to be aware of public information.

The request could be made the old-fashioned way.
The information could be disseminated in printed form.

Point is...
Creeps and villains could still access the info...
regardless of the internet.

Si?
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Jan 6, 2013
 
UTLT wrote:
The law may have been written before the internet...
granted!
But the internet doesn't increase, or decrease, the right of the public to be aware of public information.
The request could be made the old-fashioned way.
The information could be disseminated in printed form.
Point is...
Creeps and villains could still access the info...
regardless of the internet.
Si?
so what. Why should you care.
Indy

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Jan 7, 2013
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/...
Buried at the bottom of a New York Times piece might be the real reason to explain why New York's Journal News did something as sensationally stupid as publishing the names and addresses of over 30,000 legal gun owners living in two New York counties. In just five years, the Journal News' Monday through Friday circulation rate has plummeted almost 40%, "from 111,536 in September 2007 to 68,850 in September 2012."

What the paper did with respect to law-abiding gun owners might have been morally wrong, and it most certainly created a ripple of consequences no reasonable person would consider positive, but this fit of left-wing journalistic activism did win the Journal News some national infamy. And if we've learned nothing else during this 21 Century-era of reality TV, it's that immoral behavior can have its rewards -- especially when that immoral behavior is directed at something the Left despises, like law-abiding gun owners
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I heard an interesting question. The names and addresses of everyone in the same counties that receives welfare, public assistance and unemployment benefits is also public record. Would these left wing activists using a newspaper as a front to advance their twisted agenda publish those as quickly?

The newspapers are all dinosaurs that are outdated self serving enterprises - they can't go bankrupt fast enough for me. They have slowly degraded from reporting what is happening to having their main goal be to actively influence what is happening.

They are simply PAC's with printing presses void of both dignity and integrity.
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UTLT wrote:
The law may have been written before the internet...
granted!
But the internet doesn't increase, or decrease, the right of the public to be aware of public information.
The request could be made the old-fashioned way.
The information could be disseminated in printed form.
Point is...
Creeps and villains could still access the info...
regardless of the internet.
Si?
No, you moron, because the criminal could be traced to the acqusition of the information. Now all he has to do is buy a newspaper.

Thanks for the thoughtful response though.
Not right

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Jan 8, 2013
 
UTLT wrote:
The law may have been written before the internet...
granted!
But the internet doesn't increase, or decrease, the right of the public to be aware of public information.
The request could be made the old-fashioned way.
The information could be disseminated in printed form.
Point is...
Creeps and villains could still access the info...
regardless of the internet.
Si?
Yes. They could have accessed individual files and waited for the mail.
This man sent the entire library at the click of a mouse.
If I were him, I'd hide. In fact, I think it was reported that he is in fact hiding.

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Jan 8, 2013
 
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Yes. They could have accessed individual files and waited for the mail.
This man sent the entire library at the click of a mouse.
If I were him, I'd hide. In fact, I think it was reported that he is in fact hiding.
Does this constitute an admission on your part that there are a sufficient number of NRA members/legal gun owners who might be so easily provoked to homicide that he should have legitimate
worries?
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CoffinMaker wrote:
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Does this constitute an admission on your part that there are a sufficient number of NRA members/legal gun owners who might be so easily provoked to homicide that he should have legitimate
worries?
Sounds like the script of a movie: anti gun liberal nutjob journalist publishes the addresses of hangun owners in order to try to provoke one to actually shoot him (the journalist) with the handgun, thereby proving that gun owners are irresponsible. It would be a bit of legal drama. Grand standing politicians on both sides. Samuel L Jackson could play the shooter and in the courtroom yell, "Ya I did it! And I hope he burns in hell!"
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UTLT wrote:
The law may have been written before the internet...
granted!
But the internet doesn't increase, or decrease, the right of the public to be aware of public information.
The request could be made the old-fashioned way.
The information could be disseminated in printed form.
Point is...
Creeps and villains could still access the info...
regardless of the internet.
Si?
I'm still chuckling thinking about a criminal filling out a request for information (with his name on it) for a list of handgun owners in his entire county (not like anyone would remember that request, right?) Then the criminal goes and commits a crime against a bunch of people on his list. That wouldn't be suspicious!

What is this, "world's dumbest criminals"?

Or "world's dumbest Topix posts"?
Indy

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Jan 14, 2013
 
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/13/ny-newspape...
NY newspaper’s gun permit disclosure leads to burglary, new legislation

Newsday reported Sunday that burglars broke into a 70-year-old man’s home intending to steal his gun safe. The resident, and his address, were among 44,000 disclosures of lawful firearm permits that the Journal News, a Westchester County, N.Y. newspaper, published on Dec. 24.

“The Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs,” Ball said in a statement Sunday.

Robert Buckley, the vice president of the Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County, added in a letter that his organization was “putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper.”
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Jan 14, 2013
 
Indy wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01 /13/ny-newspapers-gun-permit-d isclosure-leads-to-burglary-ne w-legislation/
NY newspaper’s gun permit disclosure leads to burglary, new legislation
Newsday reported Sunday that burglars broke into a 70-year-old man’s home intending to steal his gun safe. The resident, and his address, were among 44,000 disclosures of lawful firearm permits that the Journal News, a Westchester County, N.Y. newspaper, published on Dec. 24.
“The Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs,” Ball said in a statement Sunday.
Robert Buckley, the vice president of the Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County, added in a letter that his organization was “putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper.”
If the paper is held responsible, they will cry that their free speech rights are being attacked. Who cares about the second ammendment though.
Indy

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Jan 14, 2013
 
http://www.littlefallstimes.com/features/x114...
“Remington Arms is Herkimer County and without it there is no Herkimer County. This company employs people who live here, raise families here and put their kids through college here. We cannot let the state pull the trigger on these jobs,” said Herkimer County Legislature Chairman Vincent Bono.
“Frankly, I don’t know if this is something we can stop due to the amount of time we have, but this bill could devastate our area manufacturer,” said Assemblyman Anthony Brindisi, D - Utica.“For us, manufacturing is not dead it’s here and I want to keep it alive and make it even stronger.”

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