New Vactor for Little Falls

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Let us hope so.
He did well at the meeting. Gressler was fantastic but he was a close second, asking sensible questions.
Only wish these two were MY ward reps. Burls is worse than disappointing.
Burls? Ya mean ol Don Ho? Jesus, what a get up. Instead of pretending to represent his ward, he should take up the ukulele and sit on top of Asbestos Mountain singing bad versions of Aloha Oe.
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Feb 1, 2013
 
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He voted yes for an ambulance didn't he? They had no financial information, how much the city makes in ambulance calls, how many we do per month and if we are in the red or black? So because contracts were signed with other towns they voted yes?
No Petrie voted no, him and Gressler. I know the ambulance makes money every year, my family has used the ambulance in the past. It is probably the best service the city offers. I think our alderman are led by to many people who really don't know what they are talking about.
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Feb 1, 2013
 
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Burls? Ya mean ol Don Ho? Jesus, what a get up. Instead of pretending to represent his ward, he should take up the ukulele and sit on top of Asbestos Mountain singing bad versions of Aloha Oe.
You mean Don Homo don't ya.
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I know the ambulance makes money every year, my family has used the ambulance in the past.
Nobody knows, because the city won't share the financials. If the city gets medicare rates, they are probably in the red.
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Tell me how much the vactor makes in revenue. Zero, and every 10 years you buy another one. C'mon man that's bull$hit.
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huh wrote:
Tell me how much the vactor makes in revenue. Zero, and every 10 years you buy another one. C'mon man that's bull$hit.
That's not necessarily the criterion. That's one the reasons to have government...to do things which are collectively necessary, but not necessarily profitable.

So, whether or not a factor is profitable really isn't the question. The question is what needs to be done, and what's the best and most cost-efficient way of doing that.

But of course in a City with no financial accountability whatsoever, there's absolutely no telling what is cost-efficient, and what is not.
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#89
Feb 1, 2013
 
I've said all along city government is not a business . But a service provider. We as a city needs to determine what and how much service we are willing to pay for . As the last poster stated we need to be frugal but still provide. We can bring in an ambulance service. Switch to a volunteer fire dept, ( it takes 5 to 10 years) many larger towns have great volunteer fire corps. We should at least study it to determine if it is for Little Falls.

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#90
Feb 1, 2013
 
What larger places have volunteer fire departments?
Are they cities?
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I've said all along city government is not a business . But a service provider. We as a city needs to determine what and how much service we are willing to pay for . As the last poster stated we need to be frugal but still provide. We can bring in an ambulance service. Switch to a volunteer fire dept,( it takes 5 to 10 years) many larger towns have great volunteer fire corps. We should at least study it to determine if it is for Little Falls.
Excellent idea. Agree.
This would happen in a town with an open and a competent govt but as you notice we don't have that in LF. Bobby never "studies" anything, he just shoots from the hip.
Partly this is because he is not willing or able to listen to competent people.
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Sssuuuppp wrote:
I've said all along city government is not a business . But a service provider. We as a city needs to determine what and how much service we are willing to pay for . As the last poster stated we need to be frugal but still provide. We can bring in an ambulance service. Switch to a volunteer fire dept,( it takes 5 to 10 years) many larger towns have great volunteer fire corps. We should at least study it to determine if it is for Little Falls.
Right. But if these threads are correct, we cannot decide "how much service we are willing to pay for" because the Treasurer refuses to provide sufficient data to our elected representatives to make the call based on actual figures. "Frugal" has no specific meaning without specific numbers. Why does the Treasurer not provide this data?
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Hmm wrote:
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Right. But if these threads are correct, we cannot decide "how much service we are willing to pay for" because the Treasurer refuses to provide sufficient data to our elected representatives to make the call based on actual figures. "Frugal" has no specific meaning without specific numbers. Why does the Treasurer not provide this data?
The boards are making the decisions and he does not provided to them either.
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Feb 1, 2013
 
New Hartford , whitesboro. For starters
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Why won't one of our elected officials stand up and demand the figures at a public meeting ? Oh yeah gutless.
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#96
Feb 1, 2013
 
The treasurer must be publicaly pressured to
Provide the info needed Thru the paper or asked at the meeting. He certainly has too much say and power in the city. He's a bean counter thats all. We should be more creative in our financing. That aspect of the city should be run as a business.
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#97
Feb 1, 2013
 
When the budget process begins. We can see what revenues were brought in thru the ambulance service we must also factor in fire station coverage while on a amb call. I have seen the process up close and yea it is hard to pull the numbers out.
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When the budget process begins. We can see what revenues were brought in thru the ambulance service we must also factor in fire station coverage while on a amb call. I have seen the process up close and yea it is hard to pull the numbers out.
A outside vendor does the billing for the ambulance. One needs to dissect to see what type of ambulance call is revenue generating and what ones leave us in the red. I'm not so sure the budget numbers are the total picture.The city has to take assignment from the insurance carriers,Medicare and Medicaid.
Have you ever seen that broken down by type of calls and reimbursement rates?
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Great point Wonder. I've never seen it broken down that far. I have pulled total numbers for the year then tried to pull the cost numbers from the budget lines. Not easy but it can be done. Anyone involved has always stated that the ambulance service pays for itself. I think it is close to even or maybe cost the city some. Whenever trying together real costs for any given thing it is difficult to get all of the personnel costs involved. Benefits health care costs. We would certainly need less firemen and cost us less in training.
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#100
Feb 1, 2013
 
This thread is about a vactor, the ambulance is a done deal. All the points about the ambulance are correct, somewhat. The vactor is a complete fiasco, 300,000 and no chance of a payback, why worry about an ambulance that is bought and lose track of a vehicle that costs twice as much.
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#101
Feb 1, 2013
 
What direct payback do you get from dump trucks snowplows or any other equipment we have. None of it produces income but it provides service. The vactor is not some luxury we want but a tool that is used and used often. I agree that we cannot afford it but there are countless items we own that have no direct payback.
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#102
Feb 1, 2013
 
shhh wrote:
This thread is about a vactor, the ambulance is a done deal. All the points about the ambulance are correct, somewhat. The vactor is a complete fiasco, 300,000 and no chance of a payback, why worry about an ambulance that is bought and lose track of a vehicle that costs twice as much.
The information on the ambulance provides future support as why this is not a good expenditure at this time.

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