Church confronts sex issue

Church confronts sex issue

There are 47 comments on the Augusta Chronicle story from Oct 4, 2010, titled Church confronts sex issue. In it, Augusta Chronicle reports that:

Darryl L. Foster was near suicide after leaving the church. Accused pastor reiterates his resolve He was gay, black and Christian.

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“Barbie Doll Queen”

Since: Sep 08

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#1 Oct 4, 2010
Churches are homophobic and violate your civil rights and most Churches are simply afraid of people and they make their own laws

“Barbie Doll Queen”

Since: Sep 08

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#2 Oct 4, 2010
Kremmling Community Church where there are bathroom guards because they are homophobic towards people http://www.onlinekcc.com go ahead and ask them for yourself??

“Barbie Doll Queen”

Since: Sep 08

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#3 Oct 4, 2010
This town of Kremmling just sucks big time Kremmling Colorado
Lenny

Cedar Rapids, IA

#5 Oct 4, 2010
Mrs-Jessica-D wrote:
Churches are homophobic and violate your civil rights and most Churches are simply afraid of people and they make their own laws
Churches are not Homophobic, and they don't make their own laws.
If a person doesn't agree with the doctrine of a Church, why would they be there?
No one forces someone to go to Church. If this man was this mentally and emotionally weak, only he can be blamed.

Why would a stable person commit suicide because of someone eles opinion of him? Proof once again that using the word gay for homosexual is a real oxymoron.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#6 Oct 4, 2010
There are many Christian denominations, and individual churches that welcome openly gay and lesbian people.

Stop saying that ALL Christian churches reject and condemn gay people.

THAT is a lie.

Since: Mar 07

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#7 Oct 5, 2010
Lenny wrote:
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Churches are not Homophobic, and they don't make their own laws.
If a person doesn't agree with the doctrine of a Church, why would they be there?
No one forces someone to go to Church. If this man was this mentally and emotionally weak, only he can be blamed.
Why would a stable person commit suicide because of someone eles opinion of him? Proof once again that using the word gay for homosexual is a real oxymoron.
No, it's proof that the word "christian" does not necessarily mean that those who wear it actually follow in the footsteps of Christ.

A great many churches are indeed homophobic, because the people in them are, and yes, they make their own rules. Even rules which harm others.

If you start teaching children from a very young age that gay is bad, that being gay is evil, and that the feelings that come naturally to you are going to damn you in the eyes of the God you love, is it any wonder that so many young gay people grow up unstable?

It isn't their orientation, it's the lies that they were surrounded with, and the ignorance they were raised with.

“I'm not gay, I'm celisexual!”

Since: Jul 10

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#8 Oct 5, 2010
Quest wrote:
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No, it's proof that the word "christian" does not necessarily mean that those who wear it actually follow in the footsteps of Christ.
A great many churches are indeed homophobic, because the people in them are, and yes, they make their own rules. Even rules which harm others.
If you start teaching children from a very young age that gay is bad, that being gay is evil, and that the feelings that come naturally to you are going to damn you in the eyes of the God you love, is it any wonder that so many young gay people grow up unstable?
It isn't their orientation, it's the lies that they were surrounded with, and the ignorance they were raised with.
While I can agree that churches can change the way they exprss their rhetoric to gay teens, people still have a right to their religious doctrine and it is wrong of you to suggest they change that doctrine because it is not something you personally agree with.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#9 Oct 5, 2010
If people took the time they normally do to attend church-related activities, and instead used that time to study religion, reading all sorts of beliefs, they could find their god within themselves. No one "needs" religion to guide their lives for them. There was a recent study that came out that indicated atheists and agnostics were much more educated on religion, than are the adherents to those religions. I am not saying that atheism or agnosticism is the way for everyone to go, but I do believe that you can only come to a thoughtful and knowledgeable conclusion by actually studying the religion, rather than just adhering to whatever is told you by the leader of the flock.

We have been shown in the last few years just how twisted are some of the people who lead these supposedly "religions". Yet people let them off the hook after a "I'm sorry. I sinned and repent". The damage these people do to the followers and to the victims is enough to shake the very core beliefs of the congregations. In the end, learning from many sources will give one the foundation they need to live whatever future good life they may have. The truth is within ourselves, not within religions.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#10 Oct 5, 2010
RalphB wrote:
If people took the time they normally do to attend church-related activities, and instead used that time to study religion, reading all sorts of beliefs, they could find their god within themselves. No one "needs" religion to guide their lives for them. There was a recent study that came out that indicated atheists and agnostics were much more educated on religion, than are the adherents to those religions. I am not saying that atheism or agnosticism is the way for everyone to go, but I do believe that you can only come to a thoughtful and knowledgeable conclusion by actually studying the religion, rather than just adhering to whatever is told you by the leader of the flock.
We have been shown in the last few years just how twisted are some of the people who lead these supposedly "religions". Yet people let them off the hook after a "I'm sorry. I sinned and repent". The damage these people do to the followers and to the victims is enough to shake the very core beliefs of the congregations. In the end, learning from many sources will give one the foundation they need to live whatever future good life they may have. The truth is within ourselves, not within religions.
So much truth. Thank you. The main problem with many fundamentalists is control. If you indeed carry the truth within yourself, they can not effect it at all. That is their fear.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#11 Oct 5, 2010
Gay Mom wrote:
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So much truth. Thank you. The main problem with many fundamentalists is control. If you indeed carry the truth within yourself, they can not effect it at all. That is their fear.
Education is empowering. And education on religion is necessary, in order to avoid its' grasp for power.
theothermrsmcfad den

Rockford, IL

#12 Oct 5, 2010
Lenny wrote:
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Churches are not Homophobic, and they don't make their own laws.
If a person doesn't agree with the doctrine of a Church, why would they be there?
No one forces someone to go to Church. If this man was this mentally and emotionally weak, only he can be blamed.
Why would a stable person commit suicide because of someone eles opinion of him? Proof once again that using the word gay for homosexual is a real oxymoron.
these are mere children commiting suicide not all adults that boy in texas was 13 and tortured just read some of your pro marriage propagana or hate what is a questioning child supposed to think now that they are bombarded with all this hate and they should what go to their church, parents, in a perfect world maybe but if all they hear is your going to hell they are all alone
Lee

Lancaster, PA

#13 Oct 5, 2010
The church must continue to stand on the word of God, regardless of what names are given to them. Homophobic my eye, when the church disagree to the movement they are called homophobic. Meaning of this word, irrational fear of antipathy atoward homosexuals and homosexuality. Homosexuality is sin, we speak against, we fear that our children may accept this lifestyle through the propagandy. It is the church right to offset this, by preaching and teaching truth.

“Proud to be an American”

Since: Oct 09

Clarksville TN

#14 Oct 5, 2010
Quest wrote:
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No, it's proof that the word "christian" does not necessarily mean that those who wear it actually follow in the footsteps of Christ.
A great many churches are indeed homophobic, because the people in them are, and yes, they make their own rules. Even rules which harm others.
If you start teaching children from a very young age that gay is bad, that being gay is evil, and that the feelings that come naturally to you are going to damn you in the eyes of the God you love, is it any wonder that so many young gay people grow up unstable?
It isn't their orientation, it's the lies that they were surrounded with, and the ignorance they were raised with.
I agree 100%. Instead of preaching hell and damnation, they should look to preaching tolerance and love.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#15 Oct 5, 2010
Lee wrote:
The church must continue to stand on the word of God, regardless of what names are given to them. Homophobic my eye, when the church disagree to the movement they are called homophobic. Meaning of this word, irrational fear of antipathy atoward homosexuals and homosexuality. Homosexuality is sin, we speak against, we fear that our children may accept this lifestyle through the propagandy. It is the church right to offset this, by preaching and teaching truth.
The trouble is that no one can HEAR any "word of god". All we can hear is the words of MEN who CLAIM to speak for gods. That means that we are only hearing what MEN say is sinful, what lifestyle MEN want us to live. But until I actually hear any gods tell me what to do, I will not believe the controlling lies of men.

Why is homosexuality a sin? Who does it harm? I hear people, mostly religious people, often compare it to murder, rape, theft, pedophelia, bestiality, but does it really compare? Those are crimes that cause pain and harm to their victims. But how does it harm any "victim" just because someone expresses love slightly (and only slightly) differently from the majority?

There is no point in calling homosexuality a "sin". There is no purpose in classifying it as a crime. It isn't. It's just another facet of humanity. If you reject it, then you reject the humanity of others. You've let other people tell you who to hate and fear, all while claiming it is the will of gods you've never see, spoken with, or heard from.

Since: Jan 07

Northeast, Ohio

#16 Oct 5, 2010
Mrs-Jessica-D wrote:
Churches are homophobic and violate your civil rights and most Churches are simply afraid of people and they make their own laws
Huh? Few comments...
1) Churches don't feel homosexuals, they just believe homosexuality is a sin.
2) How do churches violate civil rights?
3) Churches don't make laws, they define their own belief system. There's nothing wrong with that.

I get what you're trying to say, but its an winable argument. Churches will always believe homosexuality is wrong and act accordingly, just as you believe its ok and act accordingly. Nothing wrong with either of those things.

I do think churches spend way to much time on a few select sins though.

“Barbie Doll Queen”

Since: Sep 08

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#17 Oct 5, 2010
tidho wrote:
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Huh? Few comments...
1) Churches don't feel homosexuals, they just believe homosexuality is a sin.
2) How do churches violate civil rights?
3) Churches don't make laws, they define their own belief system. There's nothing wrong with that.
I get what you're trying to say, but its an winable argument. Churches will always believe homosexuality is wrong and act accordingly, just as you believe its ok and act accordingly. Nothing wrong with either of those things.
I do think churches spend way to much time on a few select sins though.
Here in Kremmling Colorado the Churches around here they go above the law and make their own laws to suit them and their needs and they have this attitude that they are God himself holy and mighty are they or so they seem to think but this is Kremmling Colorado
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#18 Oct 5, 2010
Many of you here seem to be very anti-Christian.

There are many Christian denominations, and individual churches, that welcome openly gay and lesbian people. Some of these denominations ordain gay and lesbian people, and marry gay and lesbian people in the church.

Stop saying that ALL Christian churches reject and condemn gay people.

THAT is a lie.
Andrea S

San Jose, CA

#19 Oct 5, 2010
Mrs-Jessica-D wrote:
Churches are homophobic and violate your civil rights and most Churches are simply afraid of people and they make their own laws
Agreed.

Since: Nov 09

Stone Mountain, GA

#20 Oct 5, 2010
Mrs-Jessica-D wrote:
Churches are homophobic and violate your civil rights and most Churches are simply afraid of people and they make their own laws
Really? do you go to church? lol I don't so I can't say that and if you do shame on you, because you're just as much to blame. If you don't then how do you know?

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#21 Oct 5, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
Many of you here seem to be very anti-Christian.
There are many Christian denominations, and individual churches, that welcome openly gay and lesbian people. Some of these denominations ordain gay and lesbian people, and marry gay and lesbian people in the church.
Stop saying that ALL Christian churches reject and condemn gay people.
THAT is a lie.
Absolutely true. Many do not reject gay people. Some welcome them warmly into their congregations.

Wouldn't matter to me. Those that ARE welcoming only do so because they STILL believe that invisible creatures are telling them to do it.

Humans should simply accept one another, without supernatural "guidance", on the basis that it is good for society to do it. Don't pretend that you take your rules from a being that I can't see. This still gives you the license to change your rules based on the "whims" of this so-called being, and to absolve yourself of any responsibility of following those rules.

Think for YOURSELF. It doesn't matter what the gods think. They aren't telling us anyway.

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