City will help fund Litchfield museum...

City will help fund Litchfield museum after all

There are 24 comments on the Route 66 News story from Nov 26, 2012, titled City will help fund Litchfield museum after all. In it, Route 66 News reports that:

Reversing an earlier decision, the City Council of Litchfield, Ill., has agreed to use money from motel taxes for the Litchfield Museum & Route 66 Welcome Center , said the Springfield State Journal-Register . The council agreed in principle earlier this month to increase the tax from 3 percent to 4 percent beginning in May, with a half percent ... (more)

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The King

Mattoon, IL

#1 Nov 26, 2012
Well, well, well. By God, they got their way after all. What a f'ing shock. Before you know it, there will be an annual city line item expenditure for the good old "Route 66 Museum". Of course, I don't know a soul here in Litchfield for it, but I guess that doesn't mean anything.
What I would love to see, is a concerted effort on behalf of the citizens of Litchfield to run these locally elected officials that support this B.S. out of office. The fiscal fraud, waste, and abuse in Litchfield is shameful. Time to identify, replace, and repeal.
We'll turn the "Route 66 Museum" into a shrine dedicated to the awareness of the threat of run away, small town governmental malfeasance. Placard placed inside the door reading, "LEST WE FORGET!!"
fatboizs

Mattoon, IL

#2 Nov 26, 2012
just look at the bodies standing up for the Museum,pick one that hasn't or won't benefit form this little soon to be taxpayer funded interprise.
Vet

Mattoon, IL

#3 Nov 27, 2012
Taxpayer money for Dorothy and company
fatboizs

Mattoon, IL

#4 Nov 27, 2012
theres a couple of male jackles in that pack.

Since: Apr 11

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#5 Nov 27, 2012
The King wrote:
Before you know it, there will be an annual city line item expenditure for the good old "Route 66 Museum".
The only way that could/would happen is if the city took over ownership of the building. Tax payer dollars cannot be used for the support of the building due to the fact that it was built by contractors paying NON-prevailing wage. And,the only cost incurred by the taxpaying citizens of this community would be if they were to spend the night in one of our fine hotels. And that cost incurred? On an $80/night room equals about 40 CENTS to their bill. If any one of our local citizens wishes to spend 30 days in one of our local hotels,I would be more than happy to fork over the $12 of additional costs you would incur. Just think about this, for the additional cost of 10 CENTS, you could quit buying the News Herald and take advantage of the great national newspapers available in most of these hotels....just pick up the rest of the tab for the room yourselves.
I'm listening,and the deal is not actually sealed. But let's start with using facts in the argument.
fatboizs

Mattoon, IL

#6 Nov 27, 2012
the building was not put out or bids, started with no building permit ,and no zoning. BUT, when 100,000 dollar buildings cost 500,000 and the lumber comes from out of town to beat the west side tax what else could you expect.Is the city going to pay rent for office space for the tourism dept ?? or would that make the non for profit scam bite the dust. any one that thinks the people who started this little progect are not in it to make money must have just movved to Montgomery County Illinois and hit their head fallin off the truck.
The King

Mattoon, IL

#7 Nov 27, 2012
Tim Hancock wrote:
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I'm listening,and the deal is not actually sealed. But let's start with using facts in the argument.
Tim,
What about the $20K loaned to the museum from the city's "tourism" fund? If in fact the Litchfield "Tourism director's" office is re-located to said museum, would that not result in a bill sent to the City for providing workspace for said Director?
Look, if a group of private investors want to come in here and invest money in this project, then good for them! But, it seems like personnel behind this museum have consistently tried to attach their museum to Litchfield government or acquire tax payer funding.
Let me ask you this. If there had been a public referendum posed to Litchfield citizens requesting permission for tax payer funds (hotel tax, loan, etc..) to support this museum, do you think it would have passed?(Hint: not a snowballs chance in Hell)
Ed McBain

AOL

#8 Nov 28, 2012
Just another tax anyone but me scam. This is how the whole country is being run. Don't worry about raising someone elses taxes if they stay in a Litchfield motel as long as I don't have to pay.
Why is the solution to every thing is just raise someone's tax? Right from the start people on here said taxpayers would foot the bill and they were right.
The big shots pushing the museum just want their name on a big plaque showing how important they are. Just a crock of BS!!

Since: Apr 11

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#9 Nov 28, 2012
The King wrote:
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Tim,
What about the $20K loaned to the museum from the city's "tourism" fund? If in fact the Litchfield "Tourism director's" office is re-located to said museum, would that not result in a bill sent to the City for providing workspace for said Director?
Look, if a group of private investors want to come in here and invest money in this project, then good for them! But, it seems like personnel behind this museum have consistently tried to attach their museum to Litchfield government or acquire tax payer funding.
Let me ask you this. If there had been a public referendum posed to Litchfield citizens requesting permission for tax payer funds (hotel tax, loan, etc..) to support this museum, do you think it would have passed?(Hint: not a snowballs chance in Hell)
The $20,000 was an advancement on revenues that would have been collected in the 1st year. The initial plan was for them to receive funds for 5 years. Because of the advancement I had this reduced to just 4 years. As far as the Tourism Director having an office there,the current council is against that move by at least a margin of 6-2. I cannot speak for future councils but you can at the ballot box. You're right,if it were a referendum on the ballot,it would fail by a huge margin.
In reference to the comment about the tax being on other peoples backs. Do you think that every time you travel to other cities,that there is no such tax being collected on you?
Vet

Mattoon, IL

#10 Nov 28, 2012
When you travel to other cities apppx this size,There is NOBODY that has taxes this high

Since: Apr 11

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#12 Nov 28, 2012
Vet wrote:
When you travel to other cities apppx this size,There is NOBODY that has taxes this high
Please name the town in this area,of our size,and infrastructure that has a lower "tourism tax". Please, lets use real data and real facts.
Ed McBain

AOL

#13 Nov 28, 2012
My parents taught me that just because the other kids jump off a bridge, I don't have to. Good advice for tax lovers.
Great Britian thought a tax on tea was a good idea as long as they weren't paying it.

Since: Apr 11

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#14 Nov 28, 2012
Ed McBain wrote:
My parents taught me that just because the other kids jump off a bridge, I don't have to. Good advice for tax lovers.
Great Britian thought a tax on tea was a good idea as long as they weren't paying it.
Please name the town in this area,of our size,and infrastructure that has a lower "tourism tax".
Ed McBain

AOL

#15 Nov 29, 2012
You just don't seem to get it. I personally don't care what other towns do, just this town!!
You evidently are a tax loving person and I am not. I want government to control spending and live with the taxes they are currently receiving.

Since: Apr 11

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#16 Nov 29, 2012
Ed McBain wrote:
You just don't seem to get it. I personally don't care what other towns do, just this town!!
You evidently are a tax loving person and I am not. I want government to control spending and live with the taxes they are currently receiving.
If you really cared about just this town,you would already know that I AM NOT a tax loving person. And I would recommend that all of you not get distracted by the museum and start to see the bigger picture. The $20,000 doesn't hold a candle to the bomb that is about to be dropped tonight on the taxpayers. All caused by poor planning,poor investment and a desire to go against peoples wishes to further an agenda that several of us have said all along would cause great expense to the taxpayers of this community. The chickens have come home to roost.
Vet

Mattoon, IL

#17 Nov 29, 2012
FACT:What other town has a tourism tax
fatboizs

Mattoon, IL

#18 Nov 30, 2012
dam, this saying ,I TOLD YOU SO ,is gettin a little funnier every day.
Ed McBain

AOL

#19 Nov 30, 2012
You were right as usual but I don't think this is funny and I know you don't either!!
Pathetic is more like it.
CPO Sharkey

Mattoon, IL

#20 Nov 30, 2012
Get ready for this coming year. Federal tax, going up. County tax going up, and now City tax going up. Town of taxfield going to be poorville very very soon.
The King

Mattoon, IL

#21 Nov 30, 2012
Tim Hancock,
First, I appreciate your alacrity, and insight on this often devisive forum. That said, I really don't care what other municipalities choose to tax. The facts are; City of Litchfield imposed an increased hotel tax, regardless of who pays it, that supports this damned museum. This is tax that could directly increase city coffers and thereby reduce the tax burden on city residents, instead it is going to a facility that very few in this city wish to support.
I'm someone who has personally witnessed the vast fiscal fraud, waste, and abuse of tax payer money on a federal level. You become numb to it. This strikes much closer to home. In the eyes of many city residents, that museum is a monument to governmental malfeasance, and we get to see it on a regular basis.
You have acknowledged that tax payer support for this museum would have failed on a ballot referendum, yet there it is. I think this is a clear indication that our local government has failed the people they are elected to represent.
I, and I hope many others, will vote accordingly.
Good luck keeping that "Tourism Director" out of there, my guess is that it is inevitable, as is a line item expense for that damned museum.

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