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19 Year old stabbed in his bed at party

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girly

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#42
Aug 15, 2008
 
no i wasnt at either party, but the only person here to blame is ryne. he stabbed someone. drugs or no drugs, he did it. he confessed and feels no remorse. and he is being tried as an adult because of how VIOLENT the crime was (7/2007 the law changed to 18+ is automatically tried as adult, it was 17+). and did you read all the places he stabbed cully? i dont care what his family life was like, you dont stab people, period. he made the decision to drink or do drugs. he stabbed someone several times, trying to kill him. if cully's friends werent there he would be dead right now.
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Lisle, IL

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#43
Aug 16, 2008
 
It sounds as if you were with Ryne while he was seduced into taking illicit substances and did nothing. Why didn't you stop him? It also sounds like you were in the room when Ryne attempted to murder Cully because you claim that Cully threatened Ryne. I assume the alleged threat came that evening since the two young men haven't attended school for over a year. Cully has no enemies because he is a great kid that gets along with everyone. Ryne may be your friend but trying to pin Ryne's criminal and heinous actions on others, especially the victim, is absurd and misplaced loyalty or maybe guilt for not having done more yourself. Cully, his family and his friends are all going to be scarred by this crime and it will take time to heal and with God's help they will heal. I pray for all involved, including Ryne, that the healing will be complete. Everyone's emotions are running high over this senseless act of violence and fueling the fire with angry rants against Ryne are not going to help anyone involved. The only thing that can completely give healing is forgiveness and because of the quality people that the McGrath's are I know that at some time they will be able to forgive Ryne. My final comment is to the gossips in Lisle that outright lie about facts surrounding this unfortunate situation, one being Debbie F., do everyone a favor and just keep your mouths shut you only hurt innocent people by acting as if you and what you have to say matters.
C- friend wrote:
You scum bags need to get the real story before you start condemning people. ryne is a good person, he never drank before that night. his so called "friends" (the real people who should be rotting in jail) got him to drink for his first time by repeatedly pressuring him. after he was quite drunk, one idiot boy offered him a pack of triple c's and ibuprofen, and since they had goten ryne so drunk, he took them because he thought they were for his shoulder he had hurt earlier. this combination made him extremely intoxicated and he was even tripping as if he was on shrooms or acid. the boy who he stabbed threatened him before he did it. it was not premeditated murder. it was a mistake caused by the teens who gave him the liquor and drugs which he had never used before. i hope all of you suffer for saying these things about such a good kid. i've never heard him say anything bad or remotely disturbing. he was always happy and laughing. he never touched alcohol or triple c's before that night. you all need to get your facts straight and stop talking lies just because you're bored with your own lives. i hope those kids who gave ryne the drugs and alcohol get what they deserve. everyone here needs to shut up
Uncle

Joliet, IL

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#44
Aug 16, 2008
 

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girly wrote:
if it was your child.. your friend.. your brother who was stabbed, you would be saying ryne should rot too. he is 17 years old, legally, an ADULT. many people have bad home situation, and they dont stab people. there are people being beaten and molest by their own parents, people who dont have parents and people who just have bad parents and there are ALOT of them who dont try to KILL people. and him being 17, if he really hadnt drank before that night he can clearly handle peer pressure, and could've chose not to. i HIGHLY doubt it was the first time alcohol or drugs were offered to him. no one poured the alcohol down his throat or shuved the pills in his mouth and NO ONE put a weapon in his hand and caused him to stab cully, who IS a good guy. ryne wasnt invited to his house and had no business being there in the first place. he made the decision all on his own that night and feels no remorse for what he did. he obviously has issues and deserves to be in jail. if i still went to LHS i would not set foot in the same building as him. allowing him at that school would be putting every student and teacher at risk. who is to say he won't hurt someone else. he has no business being in society. he is a danger to himself and others. so before people go defending him, think about how you would feel if it was your son, friend, etc who was stabbed, almost to death, in his own house. if you want to defend him, call up his lawyer because no one else wants to hear it. just as no one wants to hear defense of a child molester or rapist. if there is any justice in the world though, he WILL be in jail.. for a VERY VERY long time.
You obviously are not a Christian! Forgiveness has been blessed upon ALL of us who seek the Lord our savior. Our hearts are hardened by the evil one. The bible tells us to pray for those who hate us or persecute us. I suggest you read the best selling book of all time and find peace! God Bless!
Uncle

Joliet, IL

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#45
Aug 16, 2008
 
concerned wrote:
First I want to say that I am very thankful that this young boy is ok, I have been praying for him and his family. I hope that one day him and his family could find the strength to forgive Ryne. There is no denying this is a horrible incident that happened. I do not know who the victim is personally, but I know Ryne very well and he is a boy in need of Gods help and love. He is a good boy who also fell victim into bad surrondings. He is living up to this evil event and he is not nor was in the right frame of mind and I pray that God enters his heart again. I am a person who has been on the victim side and all the advice I can give anyone is, think before you say something and forgive for everyone is in need of forgiveness. Ryne will and is paying for his action, and I hope finally he gets the help that he needs. And I will continue to pray for these young boys.
You are obviously a Christian! I think you hit it right on the head! God Bless!
Uncle

Joliet, IL

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#46
Aug 16, 2008
 
I have read through all of these posts about Ryne. First I am so glad that the boy is going to be ok. I have prayed hard for him and the Lord is awesome! Praise God! Secondly I pray for Ryne and his soul. I pray that Ryne finds the light of Jesus Christ and asks for forgiveness and seeks repentance for his sins. I hate to burst all of your bubbles that hope he rots in hell but Ryne has the chance to see heaven! I understand all of your pain in what happened to your friend. I too was in pain when I found out about what happened. But Cully can find real peace if he can forgive Ryne which I pray he and his family do. All you who spew the hate might want to step back and seek the Lord too as your hearts are hardened. Ask the Lord to forgive Ryne and see what peace comes to you in return! Here is the key when you pray don't ask for anything for yourselves and amazing things will happen in your life. No I am not a preacher just a former soldier of satan, who bought his lies for many years, that has found the light and love of our savior Jesuse Christ! I do know for a fact that both Satan and Jesus are for real. I have been with them both and Jesus is the King of King and Lord of Lords! Don't be fooled by the evil one as he is crafty and wicked. Turn from his darkness and get into the light of the Lord!
God Bless all of you!
Uncle

Joliet, IL

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#47
Aug 16, 2008
 
cullys friend wrote:
Ive been cullys friend for 4 years and went to school and played football with him. Im so glad to hear that hes going to be ok. I hope ryne rots in prison he deserves it. Your the man cully hang in there our prayers are with you.
I find it conflicting that you say you are praying for Cully but it in the same breath want Ryne to rot. Who do you pray to the God of Love or the evil one? The God that I pray to loves Ryne as well as Cully!
Uncle

Joliet, IL

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#48
Aug 16, 2008
 
Lisle High School Alumni wrote:
From what I heard, Ryne's grandmother is planning to post bail (10% of 1 million dollars) by re-mortgaging her home. This means that he will be back on the street until his court date. He is allowed to go to school. Now here's the thing. He said he wanted to kill someone... that was his goal, and he failed (thank god!!!) so doesn't that mean that Ryne is extremely likely to go out and succeed this time with some other kid?? This kid might not be as lucky as Cully (which i am SOOO glad he was). And if he (ryne) is allowed to go back to LSHS, what's to say he wont bring a gun or knife there?? he knows he's going to jail, what does he have to lose? I mean, do these lawyers and judges think about this stuff?? Does the school think about this?? If i were a parent of any student going to Lisle High this fall, I would be scared to death with them in the same building/hallways/classrooms/g yms/buses as an attempted murderer!! Girls, guys, keep your pepper spray close in that school. Don't go to any parties PLEASE until this kid is back in jail getting the punishment and correction he needs.
Hang in there Cully, I am so glad you are recovering quickly!! Take a look at facebook when you get a chance, you've got a LOT of people who love you!!
Sorry to report that your sources are flawed. It would be more appropriate for you to speak truth instead of rumors. Ever hear of the ten commandments? Exodus 20-16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Uncle

Joliet, IL

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#49
Aug 16, 2008
 
human wrote:
I dont understand why so many people are giving Ryne sympathy. It was he who made the decision to do what he did and nobody else. You people have to stop blaming your parents for all of your troubles in the world. He deserves no sympathy and needs to own up to his actions. There have been many people who have come from a broken background with family issues that have contributed as positive members of society. Whether how well you know Ryne or not, he is not one of these people so stop trying to make loaded excuses to justify what he did!
There is no excuse for Ryne doing what he did. Sympathy he is not what Ryne needs. He needs to seek forgiveness for his actions. You do not know the pain Ryne has inside him but I do. Compassion and love are what is needed for both Ryne and Cully. Anger and hate only come from satan himself. So in my opinion if you hate Ryne, which it sounds like you do, then you need to seek forgiveness. Is your heart that hardened that you cannot forgive? Didn't Jesuse Christ die on the cross so we all can be forgiven?
D O Lisle kid

Aurora, IL

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#50
Aug 20, 2008
 
Ryne McGovern was allways one of those kids i wanted to be friends with. a big reason to be honest is because he didnt really have that many. i could never figure out why. then i remember how quick people are to judge others. if u met ryne today without knowing who he was or what he did he'd make u laugh and youd see that he was such a quite but cool kid. The people that are his friends, My friends, would say the same thing. He was allways laughing and had a smile. I never met or even heard of cully unitl i heard what ryne did to him. Ryne never hurt anyone before as long as i can remember. Yes he was on triple Cs, yes he was drunk, and an un-confirmed yes to shrooms and possibly acid. He was angry, he was high, and he wanted to kill someone. i read about all the posts on here and i havent seen someone ask why. And im sure if you asked Ryne why he did it. He couldnt tell you. He knew it wasnt right and he'd go to jail and it would F**K his life up and everything. but something made him do what he did. Drugs and Booze aside, something else was in play that night. The days before hand i wanted to call ryne to hangout. But i never did...and who knows maybe if i did this would never had happened. maybe if i did he woulda stabbed me. who knows. i dont. but i dont care. i know ryne and i can see why he would want to end someone elses life. Because if you end someone elses life, your also ending your own. Deep down i know Ryne wasnt happy. He was deppresed and poor. He wanted all the messed up things in his life to just go away He had to find an escape. He tryed to get on the High rocket and sail away to another planet where he didnt have to worry about all the day-to-day bullshit that people pretend to be content with. Ryne like SO many other teenagers, kids, adults. like so many other people were searching for the thing that would get them out of there rut. Ryne found his way. He found his way to another planet...and theres no place that feels more like another planet then prison.
forever friend

Chicago, IL

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#51
Aug 29, 2008
 
NONE of you speak about ryne unless you know him. i dont know cully, and i pray for his soul. i have known ryne since birth, and shame on you for twisting the stories around. he should never rot in hell, in fact, you all should rot in hell for talking that way. yes what he did was wrong, but none of you know exactly what happened that night, so dont go around acting like you do. of course, i dont know either, but what i do know is people make mistakes, and this one of ryne's happend to be HUGE, we should all just thank god that cully is ok. even tho i know ryne i dont have much sympathy for the fact that he should not suffer as well. he should in fact, suffer the consequences, and he will. so everyone else go on back to your lives, and hope everyone recovers from this terrible ACCIDENT. get off ryne's back and just hope that cully is doing well.
love you ryne. praying my hardest for you cully.
somebody

Lisle, IL

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#52
Aug 30, 2008
 
so, if this kid wasn't invited to this party and people noticed that he was walking around weird, why didn't anybody say something? i heard that people watched this guy go into the room... and nobody did anything. i heard that people use to make fun of this kid, and they probably thought nothing would happen... see columbine. then they let this kid walk out of the house... i heard people angry that he's back at the school... well folks, he has the right to due process... meaning he's innocent until proven guilty. i heard some rumor i don't know if it's true is the victim's older brother was at the party and he's a cop. anybody know if that's true or not?
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Lisle, IL

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#53
Sep 1, 2008
 
the victim's older brother was there but he's not a cop, and ryne mcgovern is still in jail smart guy
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Lisle, IL

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#54
Sep 8, 2008
 
Ryne dosen't doeseve life as he tried to take one. May that scumbag be punished? I certainly hope so. Sub-humans like him need to be locked away forever without parole.
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Sep 10, 2008
 

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you guys are idiots for calling ryne a scum bag and you dont even know the whole story. your going off of what your reading. try knowing someone before you judge them. im just glad that cully is better and alive.unlike everyone else im praying for ryne everyday.
AN HONEST FRiEND

Lisle, IL

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#56
Oct 4, 2008
 
I have known Ryne since he started going to the Lisle schools, and personally, this was not an action i would have ever imagined him doing. Ryne is an awesome person, what people need to realize is that pepole make mistakes. Everyone needs to learn to forgive. I don't know Cully that well, i have heard plenty of stories. Quite honestly, from the things i have heard and witnessed, Cully was not always the nicest to people less fortunate than he. I have heard many variations on what actually happened that night, but the only logical one was this: Cully and a few of his friends were speaking to Ryne at some point before this happened, telling him that he was no good at baseball and wouild never make it ot the Major Leagues. Now, if you know anything about Ryne, baseball was his passion, his one true love. I can say that for a fact. I can't recall how many of his games i attened with his family. Even for his birthday's everything was baseball. So someone telling him he was not good enough to make it would really set him off, especially being under the influence of some many contradicting drugs.

So i don't know, maybe instead of all of you parents pointing the finger at Ryne and putting all the blame on him, you should really examine how your kids are acting toward other people. I am not trying to justify ryne's actions, but i am just trying to make it known, had Cully never degraded Ryne, this may have never happened. So next time you go to point the finger, remember you have three pointing back at you.

-Ryne, you're in my prays everyday and so many elses. This will make you stronger in the end and just take it as a growing experience. You'll learn so much from this! I love you kiddo! Hang in there!-

-Cully, I didn't know you that well and a few of my really good friends are really good friends with you, and i know you are in the prayers of some many. I am glad to hear you are in stable condition. just think of your words before you say them next time. See where they get ya!
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#57
Dec 3, 2008
 
I don't know where you got you "facts" about that night but you are way off and this is posted by someone who has privy to statements from all those involved. Instead of speculating about people you "know" and people you have "heard things about", let the justice system do it's job with the actual facts and let these families try to move forward.
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#58
Dec 24, 2008
 
Ryne was a dickhead.
That's what dickheads do.
Jayz

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Jan 18, 2009
 
What is the outcome on this?
an actual friend

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Aug 11, 2009
 
dear an honest friend please never post anything about this situation ever again anywhere. the way you disgrace cully by hearsay and claim that he was not the nicest to people less fortunate than him is absolutely false. although he may have been in the more popular crowd, everyone who went to that school would tell you that group of kids were stand up people, and cully would never and has never been one to tease and demean other. and cully and his friends were not having a conversation with ryne telling him he as not good at baseball. thats actually why we let him inside when he showed up unexpectedly he was the only sophomore on varsity so the older kids welcomed him an. this is what he did when we invited him in cullys home. so honest friend why dont you keep your mouth shut and think about your words before you say them.

i am extremely grateful cully survived this, if he did not i think my life would be drastically messed up and scared for many years. thats how imporant and loving cully is to me and the people around him, so please do not disgrace him or accuse him of bringing this on him self, this was not personal this was ryne wanting to take another human life regardless of who it was. He repeatedly stabbed cully in his defenseless sleep and for that he should, no he will ROT.
Old classmate

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Tuesday Dec 22
 
I think this is a horrible and shocking event that happened, but I knew Ryne and this isnt anything like him, there must be some mental instabilities. Obviously something is wrong because that just isnt normal and no one would have seen that coming.

I dont think Ryne should go to hell or burn there, and just for saying that someone should do that will make you go there too.

We should pray for Cully and Ryan, but never say that someone should go to hell unless you are god.
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