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Lino Lakes English-only proposal may have city council majority nee...

There are 24 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 8, 2010, titled Lino Lakes English-only proposal may have city council majority nee.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Lino Lakes City Council member Dave Roeser is pushing the ordinance. A controversial proposal to declare English as the official language in Lino Lakes could be on its way to passing.

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seriously

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jul 8, 2010
I e-mailed the Mayor and gave him my support, it is not about being anti-anything, it is about coming to America-legally, working hard, obeying laws and being a upstanding citizen. And YOU HAVE TO SPEAK ENGLISH, and if you don't you pay for it yourself to learn it. What's wrong with that?
I don't think if I went to France, they would spend their resources teaching me French. Do you?
Veteran

AOL

#2 Jul 8, 2010
Go for it! This is great. There is a tsunami of anti-illegal immigrant fever and I'm all for it. We'll see this November. And Obumbler and the DFL'ers want to sue Arizona, eh? The Republicans will overwhelm the liberals. Praise the Lord.
Terrible Idea

Burnsville, MN

#3 Jul 8, 2010
This is a terrible idea, no matter your political stance. I hope the city council understands that passing this resolution will be detrimental to the city. It will end up costing the city's taxpayers more money for the legal battles that will likely ensue with civil rights organizations. Plus, the first few people I have told about this resolution have stated that they will no longer visit Lino Lakes because of it. Compare the benefits (not much, Hispanic/Latino minority only constitutes 1% and the city doesn't currently spend anything on translation) with the risks (legal battles, loss of visitors and revenue, and a tarnishing of the city's reputation).
Kessler

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jul 8, 2010
This is America.... love it, learn the language, go by the rules or LEAVE!
Common Cents

Rockville, MD

#5 Jul 8, 2010
Terrible Idea wrote:
... Plus, the first few people I have told about this resolution have stated that they will no longer visit Lino Lakes because of it.....
That's funny, everyone I have told said they might just sell there house and move to Lino Lakes.
Bright Guy

Schaumburg, IL

#6 Jul 8, 2010
Terrible Idea wrote:
This is a terrible idea, no matter your political stance. I hope the city council understands that passing this resolution will be detrimental to the city. It will end up costing the city's taxpayers more money for the legal battles that will likely ensue with civil rights organizations. Plus, the first few people I have told about this resolution have stated that they will no longer visit Lino Lakes because of it. Compare the benefits (not much, Hispanic/Latino minority only constitutes 1% and the city doesn't currently spend anything on translation) with the risks (legal battles, loss of visitors and revenue, and a tarnishing of the city's reputation).
I'm sure the city council is re-thinking their position now that they know you and your friend won't visit there, that would be devastating for them.
The Real Deal

Long Lake, MN

#8 Jul 8, 2010
Terrible Idea wrote:
This is a terrible idea, no matter your political stance. I hope the city council understands that passing this resolution will be detrimental to the city. It will end up costing the city's taxpayers more money for the legal battles that will likely ensue with civil rights organizations. Plus, the first few people I have told about this resolution have stated that they will no longer visit Lino Lakes because of it. Compare the benefits (not much, Hispanic/Latino minority only constitutes 1% and the city doesn't currently spend anything on translation) with the risks (legal battles, loss of visitors and revenue, and a tarnishing of the city's reputation).
What typical racist,liberal tripe. This ordinance covers ALL languages other than english. Why, I wonder, did you just mention the latinos? You neoprogs need to start playing a different card.
Jabber

Saint Cloud, MN

#10 Jul 8, 2010
There should be an amendment to the resolution. Fine any employer in Lino Lakes who uses illegal employees $100,000 per illegal immigrant working in Lino Lakes. This will make the resolution stringer and make a lot of money for the city.
buck

Cold Spring, MN

#12 Jul 8, 2010
Big deal, Lino Lakes isn't even a real freaking town. It sounds like a couple of big fish in a small pond that want to create an imaginary issue so the can solve the imaginary problem. What was the latest bit of news coming out of Lino Lakes prior to this? A cock fighting ring. Pretty much tells you everything you need to know about this little redneck hamlet.
Human

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Jul 9, 2010
Redneck and bigoted are the right words for this place.

If they could think they might be ashamed of the proposal.
Magic

Long Lake, MN

#14 Jul 9, 2010
Human wrote:
Redneck and bigoted are the right words for this place.
If they could think they might be ashamed of the proposal.
And you are racist to a fault.

IF you let people drive a car without the ability to read traffic signs you are stupid!

How many wrecks occur because someone couldn't read a warning sign?
Terrible Idea

Burnsville, MN

#15 Jul 9, 2010
None of you actually responded to the argument I was making.

* Lino Lakes currently spends nothing on translation.

* There is no current loss of revenue because English is not the official language

* This law puts the city at risk of legal battles with civil rights groups that will cost taxpayers more money

* It will tarnish the city's reputation. It will be the only city in Minnesota with an "official language"

Do you see the downsides to the law? Do you understand that there are no upsides? What do you all think the benefits are? The only benefits that you could possibly support would be the following:

* A feeling of superiority over the immigrant popultation

* Knowing that this "immigrant vermin" is unwelcome in your city

* Reinforcing your feelings of xenophobia

Do you all understand that we or our ancestors came here as immigrants (unless you're a native american)? You know that we all came here unable to speak English? I might understand a little bit if making such a law would decrease expenses for the city -- however this law doesn't! You are spending nothing on translation. So the only thing this law does is make your city look xenophobic and racist.
True Patriot

Burnsville, MN

#16 Jul 9, 2010
As comedian Jay Leno once said:
"This problem with illegal immigration is nothing new. In fact, the Indians had a special name for it. They called it “white people.”"

Lino Lakes, for shame. Show some tolerance.
Terrible Idea

Burnsville, MN

#17 Jul 9, 2010
Plus, like I said before this city doesn't even have an immigration problem, so there is not even a little bit of justification! Your population is 92% white. And of the 8% group of minorities, many of them are US Citizens or immigrants who speak English.

*** Also, I thought I would to you to your city's website ***

http://www.ci.lino-lakes.mn.us/index.asp... {054CD843-BBA3-46F6-99F8-FB297 743D1D0}

"Those who settled on the west side of the lake had names like Ramsden, Speiser and Wenzel. Those who settled on the east side of the lake included the Cardinals, LaMottes, Houles and Dupres. Many of their descendants still live in the area today.

The first unit of local government, the township of Centerville, was organized August 11, 1857, encompassing an area of 36 square miles. The population of just under 300 was organized into three loosely knit communities, the "German settlement" west of the lakes, the "Swede settlement" south of the lakes, and the "French settlement" east of the lakes."

You're a city of immigrants. Try to quell your xenophobia. Realize that you don't have an immigration problem or any revenue loss by not an official language. Don't make an unnecessary law to make yourselves feel better about yourself while alienating your city from the rest of the state.
Sophie

Maple Grove, MN

#18 Jul 9, 2010
My ancestors did not speak English at home either. They were expected to learn it in a hurry at school, and were reprimanded if they spoke French. However - they did not learn it at the expense of the city, county, state or otherwise. None of the immigrants until recent years have expected anything from their new host countries. If they wanted to live here, they figured it out on their own.
Look, I think some ESL in schools is great. It helps them learn and assimilate more quickly, which is good for their social well-being, as well as academics. Having community resources is also a great idea. However, I agree that a city should not be expected or required to provide those services. THAT is becoming the crux of the matter. That assistance is becoming so taken for granted that it it is looked upon as being an entitlement. The city is taking a stand now before it comes to that. They are not saying they will not ever provide help of any kind - they are just saying they should not be forced to in the future.
It is an unfortunate society that a city feels the need to protect itself, but it is a brave position in this age of liberal PC. Take a lesson from our grandfathers - do for yourselves, because no one should do it for you.
Lily

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jul 9, 2010
I guess I will no longer be doing any shopping in Lino Lakes!!
What a ridiculous policy in a world that is getting more and more diverse each day.
I do believe that some of the city council members have adopted chidren from other countries. How do they reconcile this with this proposition?
God Bless America! All of us, with our diverse languages, heritages, and ideas.
The Real Deal

Delano, MN

#21 Jul 9, 2010
Lily wrote:
I guess I will no longer be doing any shopping in Lino Lakes!!
What a ridiculous policy in a world that is getting more and more diverse each day.
I do believe that some of the city council members have adopted chidren from other countries. How do they reconcile this with this proposition?
God Bless America! All of us, with our diverse languages, heritages, and ideas.
What the eff does "in a world that is getting more and more diverse each day", mean? Have you ever heard of
THE TOWER OF BABEL AND THE CONFUSION OF LANGUAGES? Try reading Sophies post. And hey, why don't you go shopping someplace where you can't understand what they're saying. Put your money where your mouth is. I'm sure they'll give you a great deal!
Magic

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Jul 10, 2010
The multilingual junk is perpetrated by vendors that sell language stuff and Gobernut sucks right into it because the Gobernut workers get kickbacks from the sane vendors they buy the junk from..

It's all a scam!!
Smartass

Saint Paul, MN

#23 Jul 10, 2010
Roeser is a good German name, in fact the German phone book shows 1,245 of them. Now what if by any chance just one of them calls on the phone and speaks German offering a business to start up in Lino Lakes ? Ja du bist ein idiot Herr Roeser.
Joel

Duluth, MN

#24 Jul 11, 2010
Kessler wrote:
This is America.... love it, learn the language, go by the rules or LEAVE!
Yes, absolutely... but just to clarify, do you mean Dakota or Ojibwe? The latter has been a little tricky for me, so I guess that means back to Norway.

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