Ruben Rosario: 'English-only' proponent might try comprehending fac...

Jun 27, 2010 Read more: TwinCities.com 288
There is a wealth of reasons why the fine 19,000-plus residents of Lino Lakes should stand up as one when the proposal to approve or deep-six an 'English-only' city ordinance comes up for debate or a vote July 12. Read more
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Since: Jul 08

Brooklyn Park

#1 Jun 27, 2010
I moved to Lino Lakes from St. Paul's Midway five years ago, and couldn't help but be struck by the differences in suburban life and inner city life. For instance, why do suburbs hate pedestrians. and where are the sidewalks? Why does everybody drive an SUV and speed constantly, even in parking lots? There are mysteries that can't be solved, but this one can. It embarrasses me that my community has taken such a backward stand on the English only issue and I will make my feelings known. Perhaps when our non-English speaking population percentage increases we can change, but it will be from square one and be just as costly. Just do it and let it be done.

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Bigot Buster

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jun 27, 2010
3M should be ashamed to have a bigot like David Roeser as an employee. No surprise that he's also contributed to the Republican Party of Minnesota too.

Three cheers for Ruben Rosario for shining a light on these cockroaches.

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Since: Jul 08

Brooklyn Park

#7 Jun 27, 2010
vetineagan wrote:
<quoted text>Alright, listen up. I am only gonna say this once. Those people have to go to work. It is called supporting your family and paying taxes, so you slugs can stay at home and make babies all day and go to the bars at night. Sidewalks? You cant walk on most of them in the city because of thugs, beggars, vomit, urine and feces from you being out the night before. America, love it or leave it. And if someone asks me to buy something from them it better be in English, or I walk out. Hey, Rube? Are you an American? Or Mexican? Cant be both.
Are you implying that I am a non-working slug? I work as hard as you, and I speak English. You are assuming some pretty "out there" stuff my friend, and have obviously led a sheltered suburban life if you think sidewalks are as nasty as you describe. Go outside your bubble and experience something real for once. You may learn to keep your silly smart mouth opinions to yourself.

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Basia

Tower, MN

#8 Jun 27, 2010
I am sick and tired of our "legal" refugees and immigrants refusing to get with the program. I managed section 8 housing for 15 years in Mpls and had grade school children translating for parents that have lived here for over 10 years. Perhaps 5% bothered to get off of their unemployed butts to go out and either work or take ESL classes. They were paying 30% of their welfare check for rent, had food stamps, better medical insurance than most employed people, but had to do NOTHING for our largesse. I say, within 1 year of living in the US you need to be fluent and smart enough to pass a GED test in English. If not, go back from whence you came. It is a great dumbing down of our society to allow freeloaders that refuse to help themselves. PS Every immigrant has a friend or relative that is fluent in English. They need a translation? Bring a buddy at your own expense.

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Daniel

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Jun 27, 2010
Assimilation is not a bad word. It is the action that has made this country the envy of the world.

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Since: Oct 08

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#10 Jun 27, 2010
I would say that a big difference between German immigration in the 19th century and Latino immigration of today is that Latinos form a much bigger group, relative to the larger American population, than Germans did. In other words, you didn't only have Germans, but you also had Scandinavians, Italians, Irish, etc. coming to American's shores.

Because Latinos now form such a large group, though, there is going to be a higher degree of difficulty in assimilating into larger mainstream America, including linguistically.
ABS

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Jun 27, 2010
Labratt wrote:
I moved to Lino Lakes from St. Paul's Midway five years ago, and couldn't help but be struck by the differences in suburban life and inner city life. For instance, why do suburbs hate pedestrians. and where are the sidewalks? Why does everybody drive an SUV and speed constantly, even in parking lots? There are mysteries that can't be solved, but this one can. It embarrasses me that my community has taken such a backward stand on the English only issue and I will make my feelings known. Perhaps when our non-English speaking population percentage increases we can change, but it will be from square one and be just as costly. Just do it and let it be done.
Just curious- Why did you move from Midway to the suburbs?

Since: Jul 08

Brooklyn Park

#12 Jun 27, 2010
ABS wrote:
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Just curious- Why did you move from Midway to the suburbs?
Got married and my little house didn't hold all of us.
felix

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Jun 27, 2010
ABS wrote:
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Just curious- Why did you move from Midway to the suburbs?
maybe didnt want to get robbed or shot ?

Since: Jul 08

Brooklyn Park

#14 Jun 27, 2010
felix wrote:
<quoted text> maybe didnt want to get robbed or shot ?
Nope, it was actually pretty convenient. I worked in the burbs, so I drove out when everybody else was driving in. The return trip was the reverse. Everything was close, shopping was easy, ran around Como Lake daily, walked to Target, Walmart etc. Never had a bit of trouble except for a couple of attempted break-ins. That's not bad for a 50 year run.
Basia

Tower, MN

#15 Jun 27, 2010
Phid wrote:
I would say that a big difference between German immigration in the 19th century and Latino immigration of today is that Latinos form a much bigger group, relative to the larger American population, than Germans did. In other words, you didn't only have Germans, but you also had Scandinavians, Italians, Irish, etc. coming to American's shores.
Because Latinos now form such a large group, though, there is going to be a higher degree of difficulty in assimilating into larger mainstream America, including linguistically.
No, phid. It will not be harder. It will take the exact amount of effort or less than our forebears dealt with. Back when our relatives crossed the water, land etc. to get here speaking a tower of babel of languages, there were no free translation services, free esl, free medical, free.......... There should be a lot of PERSONAL responsibility involved in becoming a citizen. Our tax dollars are being wasted on thousands of "feel good" programs that actually do little to benefit the taxpayers.
Veteran

AOL

#16 Jun 27, 2010
What a bunch of liberal drivel! I never read this guy anyway but it figures.

“Things can only get better”

Since: May 08

Minneapolis

#17 Jun 27, 2010
Labratt wrote:
I moved to Lino Lakes from St. Paul's Midway five years ago, and couldn't help but be struck by the differences in suburban life and inner city life. For instance, why do suburbs hate pedestrians. and where are the sidewalks? Why does everybody drive an SUV and speed constantly, even in parking lots? There are mysteries that can't be solved, but this one can. It embarrasses me that my community has taken such a backward stand on the English only issue and I will make my feelings known. Perhaps when our non-English speaking population percentage increases we can change, but it will be from square one and be just as costly. Just do it and let it be done.
Well, what do you know. I have had a very similar experience after my wife and I moved also. The only real difference is that we moved into the city from a northern suburb. I find city pedestrians have no idea what a red light means when they look at it right in front of their face. They also seem to believe that it is entirely okay for them to cross the street any darned place they have a mind to. No one and I mean no one smiles at you when you go to the stores and the people who are working at the fast food places seem to consider it an interruption whne you want to order your food. The drivers in parking lots, with all of their Prius and foreign cars make the freeway loook safe. This country needs an official language and it needs to be American English.

Since: Jul 08

Brooklyn Park

#18 Jun 27, 2010
Interesting different type of culture shock. I know that you didn't move to the Midway. It must be the urban renewal area that caters to the affluent. There were no Prius or hybrid cars in the Midway when I lived there, and the people were friendly. Good luck with the one language thing. Capitalism depends on a growing population to survive. Importing workers is a survival tool, not an administration weakness. Keep us posted on your growing disappointment.
Irreverent One wrote:
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Well, what do you know. I have had a very similar experience after my wife and I moved also. The only real difference is that we moved into the city from a northern suburb. I find city pedestrians have no idea what a red light means when they look at it right in front of their face. They also seem to believe that it is entirely okay for them to cross the street any darned place they have a mind to. No one and I mean no one smiles at you when you go to the stores and the people who are working at the fast food places seem to consider it an interruption whne you want to order your food. The drivers in parking lots, with all of their Prius and foreign cars make the freeway loook safe. This country needs an official language and it needs to be American English.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19 Jun 27, 2010
Basia wrote:
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No, phid. It will not be harder. It will take the exact amount of effort or less than our forebears dealt with. Back when our relatives crossed the water, land etc. to get here speaking a tower of babel of languages, there were no free translation services, free esl, free medical, free.......... There should be a lot of PERSONAL responsibility involved in becoming a citizen. Our tax dollars are being wasted on thousands of "feel good" programs that actually do little to benefit the taxpayers.
I'm not sure how your statement applies to mine but I agree with your last few sentences.
Rub

Corpus Christi, TX

#20 Jun 27, 2010
vetineagan wrote:
<quoted text>Alright, listen up. I am only gonna say this once. Those people have to go to work. It is called supporting your family and paying taxes, so you slugs can stay at home and make babies all day and go to the bars at night. Sidewalks? You cant walk on most of them in the city because of thugs, beggars, vomit, urine and feces from you being out the night before. America, love it or leave it. And if someone asks me to buy something from them it better be in English, or I walk out. Hey, Rube? Are you an American? Or Mexican? Cant be both.
Ease up dude. Going to work doesn't make it ok to drive like crazy jerk at unsafe speeds. Everyone on the road is trying to get somewhere. You really have a lot of hate and anger. You also make a lot of assumptions. What streets do you walk down where you see vomit, urine and faeces? I think you are making that up. Calm down and think straight. Make your point without making accusations. Someone commented on smear tactics and I think your post sums it up. Also, in America I thought that we have the freedom of expression. We can disagree with politicians, the media, or our neighbors and not be forced to LOVE or LEAVE. That is a fascist comment. Maybe if you tried learning a second language, any language just for the challenge of enjoyment you would enrich your life and reap many benefits.
Dog

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Jun 27, 2010
Labratt wrote:
I moved to Lino Lakes from St. Paul's Midway five years ago, and couldn't help but be struck by the differences in suburban life and inner city life. For instance, why do suburbs hate pedestrians. and where are the sidewalks? Why does everybody drive an SUV and speed constantly, even in parking lots? There are mysteries that can't be solved, but this one can. It embarrasses me that my community has taken such a backward stand on the English only issue and I will make my feelings known. Perhaps when our non-English speaking population percentage increases we can change, but it will be from square one and be just as costly. Just do it and let it be done.
If you like all the crap you claim to then move back downtown, I'm sure your Lino Lakes neighbors will help you pack. What a toad stool you are.

Since: Jul 08

Brooklyn Park

#24 Jun 27, 2010
bb4life wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you and your type should stay downtown, liberal freak. Until you get a grasp of living in MN, just like the clueless writer of this column should do, shut up and understand the values that have been instilled in this community and state. Your sympathetic views are not the norm so get on with your life...better yet, move to Pisconsin and see how long your idiotic opinion lasts!!!
Aren't you the little ray of sunshine? You are clearly an ignorant redneck and should take your own advice.
dude

United States

#26 Jun 27, 2010
I think remembering our culture and history doesn't need to come at the expense of the taxpayers. What does Rosario's opinion have to do with the taxpayers' budget?

Maybe it isn't an expense now, but look at what this costs larger cities and tell me foresight isn't useful.

This is just another example of the socialist dependency on govt to solve every problem some poor soul has today. No one can accept any hardship without protesting and lobbying for more govt spending to make them feel better.

How would these people survive without govt? Amazing.

Rosario clearly has socialist tendencies - plain and simple. But I respect his right to voice his opinion. However he should respect the legal right of elected officials to do what they think is best without publishing comments calling them dimwits. Personal attacks are off point and unnecessary. Hinting at racism when the reasoning for the suggested law is clearly stated seems to be right out of the progressive (see: socialist) playbook.

My hope is that Americans prove to be smarter than the progressives give them credit for, learn the history of why we rejected marxism and social economics before, and choose to follow in our Founder's footsteps by casting this lot to the curb.

Rasario - you may be beyond saving. This column secures you as just another pawn in with the other massive drivel of liberal media. Yawn...

Since: Mar 10

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Jun 27, 2010
Labratt wrote:
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Aren't you the little ray of sunshine? You are clearly an ignorant redneck and should take your own advice.
You don't get it because you are a troll and is narrow focused. Too bad, fool!

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