Attorney petitions for Toyota driver'...

Attorney petitions for Toyota driver's release in deadly St. Pa...

There are 15 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 24, 2010, titled Attorney petitions for Toyota driver's release in deadly St. Pa.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The St. Paul man imprisoned for a deadly 2006 accident involving his Toyota Camry has a chance at a new trial - and possibly release.

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Obuma

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Mar 25, 2010
This car was 10 YEARS OLD at the time of the accident.

# A worn cable assembly from the accelerator pedal to the cruise control actuator.

# A worn cable from the cruise control to the engine throttle.

# A faulty throttle position sensor.

# An engine control unit problem that could send an errant acceleration signal to the throttle.

# A loss of hydraulic pressure in the brakes.

ALL ARE THE FAULT OF THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!
Corolla Owner

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Mar 25, 2010
Obuma wrote:
This car was 10 YEARS OLD at the time of the accident.
# A worn cable assembly from the accelerator pedal to the cruise control actuator.
# A worn cable from the cruise control to the engine throttle.
# A faulty throttle position sensor.
# An engine control unit problem that could send an errant acceleration signal to the throttle.
# A loss of hydraulic pressure in the brakes.
ALL ARE THE FAULT OF THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!
100% correct. What we have here is some lawyer trying to make a big name for himself. Ask the owner to provide all vehicle service records, then see how fast this goes away.
Candace

Madison, WI

#3 Mar 25, 2010
Would there not have been proof of brakes applied before the collision? Skid marks, hot brake pads, something? If something did malfunction and the car was accelerating, he must have done something to try to stop when he realized he would hit someone. I do agree however, with all the questions that have arisen, including whether he should have received 8 years for what was unquestionably an accident, he should be released pending either a new trial or definitive proof of some malfunction. Wasn't his wife pregnant at the time of the collision? This vengeful punishment is getting old. Meanwhile a lady who knowingly is drunk, drives and kills someone gets 4 months in the workhouse, plus 4 months of work release. Now tell me this guy should sit in prison for 8 years. MN justice, gotta love it.
felix

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Mar 25, 2010
Obuma wrote:
This car was 10 YEARS OLD at the time of the accident.
# A worn cable assembly from the accelerator pedal to the cruise control actuator.
# A worn cable from the cruise control to the engine throttle.
# A faulty throttle position sensor.
# An engine control unit problem that could send an errant acceleration signal to the throttle.
# A loss of hydraulic pressure in the brakes.
ALL ARE THE FAULT OF THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!
curious - so you would replace all these items at 10 yrs.? dont think it advises this in the manuel , but then this owner cant speak or read english anyway 4031- of course !
Buzz Lightly

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Mar 25, 2010
Obuma wrote:
This car was 10 YEARS OLD at the time of the accident.
# A worn cable assembly from the accelerator pedal to the cruise control actuator.
# A worn cable from the cruise control to the engine throttle.
# A faulty throttle position sensor.
# An engine control unit problem that could send an errant acceleration signal to the throttle.
# A loss of hydraulic pressure in the brakes.
ALL ARE THE FAULT OF THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!
I can guarantee you that none of the 10-year-old cars on the road have had these items inspected and replaced unless they failed.

If that bothers you, you should probably stay off of the road.
Jeff

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Mar 25, 2010
Kirsten Driscoll who had a BAC of .217 and killed a man after hitting him on the sidewalk received 1 year in the local workhouse recently, meaning she only does 8 months good-time. This man,whether due to mechanical failure or driver failure, is serving hard time in prison for what was an accident either way. Yes, someone is responsible in this case, but neither cause was intentional. He should be held responsible if it was his error, but the disparity in the sentences in these cases is outrageous. Ms. Driscoll made the choice to drink a large amount of alcohol and get behind the wheel, therfore her outcome was intentional. I'm not saying either sentence was right or wrong, but this guys sentence should have certainly set precedent for Ms. Driscoll's case. Meaning she should have received a lot more time than he did.
Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Mar 25, 2010
Buzz Lightly wrote:
<quoted text>
I can guarantee you that none of the 10-year-old cars on the road have had these items inspected and replaced unless they failed.
If that bothers you, you should probably stay off of the road.
Excellent point.
The Police State

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Mar 25, 2010
Obuma wrote:
This car was 10 YEARS OLD at the time of the accident.
# A worn cable assembly from the accelerator pedal to the cruise control actuator.
# A worn cable from the cruise control to the engine throttle.
# A faulty throttle position sensor.
# An engine control unit problem that could send an errant acceleration signal to the throttle.
# A loss of hydraulic pressure in the brakes.
ALL ARE THE FAULT OF THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!
All of the points you raised--including the last one--point to a potential manufacturing defect. If that was your point, then we get your sarcasm.

If not...when did maintenance schedules ever indicate that owners check the ECU/ECM of their cars?

Unless the guy was a tech-geek or a speed-freak, I seriously doubt that he was flashing/programming the ECU of his Camry.
Candace

Madison, WI

#9 Mar 25, 2010
Jeff wrote:
Kirsten Driscoll who had a BAC of .217 and killed a man after hitting him on the sidewalk received 1 year in the local workhouse recently, meaning she only does 8 months good-time. This man,whether due to mechanical failure or driver failure, is serving hard time in prison for what was an accident either way. Yes, someone is responsible in this case, but neither cause was intentional. He should be held responsible if it was his error, but the disparity in the sentences in these cases is outrageous. Ms. Driscoll made the choice to drink a large amount of alcohol and get behind the wheel, therfore her outcome was intentional. I'm not saying either sentence was right or wrong, but this guys sentence should have certainly set precedent for Ms. Driscoll's case. Meaning she should have received a lot more time than he did.
She only has to serve 4 months in the actual workhouse, she will serve the last 4 on work release, even though she only has a volunteer position. If you have been following this, she was actually being let out on work release almost from the time she went in. Someone made a mistake(so they claim) and she was spending a good amount of time out working at a library and going to her rehab meetings. It has gotten real quiet now, so hopefully she is sitting in the workhouse for the next few months. The hit and run victims family has to be having some difficulty with this. I know I would.
meinstpaul

Hopkins, MN

#10 Mar 25, 2010
Free the man and sue Toyota's #$$ off.
Just sharing

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Mar 25, 2010
Hey, all posters remenber the women who was reaching for her cell phone and slamed her car to the other car that stoped at a red light last week? She killed a 1 yr old baby, will see how long she'll served jail time.
Lee Say No More Car

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Mar 25, 2010
When Mr. Lee get out of jail he say he only will drive wagon with ox pulling. He say whoa and pull on reins and ox be stopping. He say until they build good car in Laos he no drive car.
Jumping Jack Flash

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Mar 25, 2010
Hey Emily!

Why are you beating this story to death?

It was HUMAN ERROR!!!

We will find that out!!!

Why do you let the Government direct you to your stories???

Don't you have a Back Bone???
Buzz Lightly

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Mar 25, 2010
Jumping Jack Flash wrote:
Hey Emily!
Why are you beating this story to death?
It was HUMAN ERROR!!!
We will find that out!!!
Why do you let the Government direct you to your stories???
Don't you have a Back Bone???
What was that human error?
stairway

Deltona, FL

#15 Mar 25, 2010
Obuma wrote:
This car was 10 YEARS OLD at the time of the accident.
# A worn cable assembly from the accelerator pedal to the cruise control actuator.
# A worn cable from the cruise control to the engine throttle.
# A faulty throttle position sensor.
# An engine control unit problem that could send an errant acceleration signal to the throttle.
# A loss of hydraulic pressure in the brakes.
ALL ARE THE FAULT OF THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!
yes a toyota is worn out after it is 10 years old.

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