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Pennsylvania law targets puppy mills

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Tammy

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Sick of this wrote:
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You are only it for the money. Do you think the dogs love to breed and have their puppies snatched away and have to make more for your pocket. People like you should have to go the shelters and watch all the animals being killed everyday so you can make more when they are being killed everyday all over the US. It is a disgusting way to try and make money!!!!
Sick Of This, I agree 100%, I cant believe how naive people are..Pet stores get their dogs from puppy mills and THATS That!!Some are just better at fooling people then others..Everyone keeps saying how nice the owners are and how nice they treat the pups..No one ever doubted that or suggest anything different, they want to come across as the best lil pet store in town. That has nothing to do with where these poor pups come from!! I wish these people would just stick with the topic at hand..Glamorous Pooch and the rest of the lil cute Boutiques like it are making a living off of abusing animals. Stop looking at the enviroment where the pups are now and start focusing on how they got there. Lets put a end to this..
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Tammy wrote:
<quoted text> That was so touching
And by the way, I am a owner, and I purchased my dog from these people. You dont want to start this discussion with me, read the whole topic before you make your uneducated statements. I thought the same thing about this place as you do, or else I would have never spent $700.00 on a puppy from them, but once the health issues with "Sadie" started I began to see a whole different side of these people, that is when I decided to do a little further research and found out that these places do indeed get their dogs from puppy mills, so for your sake you would be wise to leave this one alone..If indeed you know who I am , then you would know that I will never give up on this, this is wrong and I would never want anyone to go through what i went through with Sadie, luckily I was able to afford the vet cost, which is now well over $6000.00..If you do not know the whole story, it would be wise just to let well enough alone for everyone involved..
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Oct 23, 2009
 
lexi wrote:
NO, BUTT head I just wanted a dog for my daughter and look what happened i'm looking into lancaster because the Spca lied to me on what kind of breed he was they lied for insurance reasons he is a pit bull shepherd mix. now my homeowners insurance has dropped me...
Maybe you shouyld have done a little more research on YOUR dog beofre you adopted him.. Don't blame this all on the shelter.. Teach you child to be calm with dogs and not to pull his ears!!!!!!!!!!
Tammy

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Thanks for all the help at the Small Dog Expo last Saturday!! This was a great day and lots of fun. This is the type of event that we need to spread the word and educate people about these not so GLAMOROUS POOCH BOUTIQUES...Excellent day, turned out way better than I imagined.. Thanks to Mr & Mrs Claus for taking pics with our dogs!Thanks to the Yorkie Rescue, alot of puppies found good homes that day and thanks to the over 50 vendors that helped make this day possible. Cant wait to do this again!!
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Did any of you know puppy mills in the state of Pa are allowed to shoot the dogs in a field put straw under them so their rotting carcusses can be tilled in the very soil they plant their vegetables that we eat. Oh yes there is proof it happens in Lancaster Pa one of the biggest puppy mill areas around. I wish I saved the website that gave this info months ago. The website was advertized on a billboard when my husband drove through northern pa.I believe it was put out and sponserd (paid for by Peta). Any one see it, it had a puppies face on a head of calaflower People get educated and do not purchase produce from lancaster farmers.Most of all DONT BUT PUPPY MILL DOGS. Dont buy dogs from pet stores who wont give out the name and address of the breeders.
Tammy

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Nov 9, 2009
 
littlefeats2003 wrote:
Did any of you know puppy mills in the state of Pa are allowed to shoot the dogs in a field put straw under them so their rotting carcusses can be tilled in the very soil they plant their vegetables that we eat. Oh yes there is proof it happens in Lancaster Pa one of the biggest puppy mill areas around. I wish I saved the website that gave this info months ago. The website was advertized on a billboard when my husband drove through northern pa.I believe it was put out and sponserd (paid for by Peta). Any one see it, it had a puppies face on a head of calaflower People get educated and do not purchase produce from lancaster farmers.Most of all DONT BUT PUPPY MILL DOGS. Dont buy dogs from pet stores who wont give out the name and address of the breeders.
Can you believe there are actually people defending this?!! The time will come when no pets will be sold in pet stores, for now all we can do is keep spreading the word and educating those that want to listen....
Nancy

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Every puppy that is sold to a pet store cannot possibly be sold. What happens when they are no longer puppies? Someone should check their garbage.
Tammy

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Nov 10, 2009
 
They send them back to the puppy mill so they can live the rest of their lives breeding in horrific conditions, its a vicious cycle. These poor pups suffer so much, just so these pet store owners can make a living, its so sad. Shut these cute lil "Boutiques" down!! If we dont buy they wont stay open!!!
Who Cares

Littlestown, PA

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Let's put money and time into making sure homeless children are fed and clothed, adopting special needs children, first instead of belly-aching over dogs. Which are ANIMALS by the way, not people. If you think your dogs are "family", you have a serious problem. I wonder if Tammy and others have ever donated $6 grand to a homeless shelter, or soup kitchen, or if she's just narrow-minded enough to fix her ailing puppy, which will eventually die anyway. People first, then animals. Get over yourself.
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Thats a another topic moron, but,since you want to try to sound educated,pets are family,they help children at St Judes hospital, visit nursing homes to cheer up otherwise very lonely people, they help the blind and handicap the list goes on and on, the world would be a very lonely place for alot of children and elderly without pets. You sound souless, angry and very naive. Please stay out of a topic you obviously know nothing about.I donate time and money to Feed The Children, bet you don`t even have a clue what that organization is about, I work at Helping Hands and volunteer on holidays at the churches and rescue mission to feed the homeless. Please do not get on a topic and judge people you know nothing about. To say animals are not family, tells me what kind of person you are. I am not going to waste any more of my time on you. And hey! In case no one ever told you..People eventually die too!! What a Joke..
u r having a bad hair day

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what is a "puppy mill"? Do they actually mill the puppies and make cereal or flour out of them? that's horrible!
Who Cares

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I do volunteer at homeless shelters, soup kitchens, rescue missions, and nursing homes. I donate to St. Jude, MDA,Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, and March of Dimes. I support local soccer, basketball, football and band boosters through their respective fund raisers, and my children and I also volunteer at the Food Pantry. I am active in my church activities too. So as far as my involvement with the community, there you are. My point was to spend time, money and energy on children who need help rather than money on pets. I'm allowed to be on Topix just like you are, and I have an opinion, just like you do. I don't have to be an animal lover to be a good person, or do good works. As soon as local children have food, clothing and shelter, and no one is suffering, then maybe I'll devote my time and energies to animals. But for now, that's where my heart is.
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Anyone here eat meat? Anyone ever see the sometimes horrific conditions that the animals we eat are raised in before being sent off to a terrible death? Ever see the tractor-trailers full of turkeys kept in their tiny open cages sitting at the Round Hill plant in New Oxford? Wanna know how they die? Ask someone who works there...How about veal (a cow less than 3 months old)--didn't you ever go to a petting zoo? The cows your kids pet today could be veal chops tomorrow, same for baby lambs. There's bad things all over the world, this isn't the only topic that matters. But until everyone wants to give up meat and change those conditions, it'll be the same.
Unless we are all vegans, an animal has to die for us to eat it. Think about that one.....
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Duh wrote:
Anyone here eat meat? Anyone ever see the sometimes horrific conditions that the animals we eat are raised in before being sent off to a terrible death? Ever see the tractor-trailers full of turkeys kept in their tiny open cages sitting at the Round Hill plant in New Oxford? Wanna know how they die? Ask someone who works there...How about veal (a cow less than 3 months old)--didn't you ever go to a petting zoo? The cows your kids pet today could be veal chops tomorrow, same for baby lambs. There's bad things all over the world, this isn't the only topic that matters. But until everyone wants to give up meat and change those conditions, it'll be the same.
Unless we are all vegans, an animal has to die for us to eat it. Think about that one.....
What the hell are these people in these past two post talking about?! Talk about crazy..Tammy, don`t even give them 2 wacko`s the satisfaction of responding back to them. What the hell does chickens, cows and turkeys have to do with anything? You guys are so off base it is crazy, killing a turkey is not against the law idiot, killing a dog is! We dont eat dogs to survive,"well maybe you do" oh my god you sound nuts! Just stop while you can, what the hell is in the water in Littletown!! Tammy, keep it up, your doing a great thing. Im speechless after those last 2 post, WTF!!Tammy please, what ever you do, do not respond to these idiots, you sound too intelligent to let these wacko`s get to you..Oh My God,I have to keep reading them over, because I cant believe what I just read, Unbelieveable!!
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Who Cares wrote:
I do volunteer at homeless shelters, soup kitchens, rescue missions, and nursing homes. I donate to St. Jude, MDA,Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, and March of Dimes. I support local soccer, basketball, football and band boosters through their respective fund raisers, and my children and I also volunteer at the Food Pantry. I am active in my church activities too. So as far as my involvement with the community, there you are. My point was to spend time, money and energy on children who need help rather than money on pets. I'm allowed to be on Topix just like you are, and I have an opinion, just like you do. I don't have to be an animal lover to be a good person, or do good works. As soon as local children have food, clothing and shelter, and no one is suffering, then maybe I'll devote my time and energies to animals. But for now, that's where my heart is.
Your name says it all!! Who Cares & Duh!! Back at ya..Wacko
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Boo-Hoo, I need a hankie...
Tammy

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LydiaQ wrote:
<quoted text> What the hell are these people in these past two post talking about?! Talk about crazy..Tammy, don`t even give them 2 wacko`s the satisfaction of responding back to them. What the hell does chickens, cows and turkeys have to do with anything? You guys are so off base it is crazy, killing a turkey is not against the law idiot, killing a dog is! We dont eat dogs to survive,"well maybe you do" oh my god you sound nuts! Just stop while you can, what the hell is in the water in Littletown!! Tammy, keep it up, your doing a great thing. Im speechless after those last 2 post, WTF!!Tammy please, what ever you do, do not respond to these idiots, you sound too intelligent to let these wacko`s get to you..Oh My God,I have to keep reading them over, because I cant believe what I just read, Unbelieveable!!
Hey Lydia, dont worry I never let people like this bother me, everyone has a opinion thats what these blogs are for, its just unfortunate that they allow any WACKO on them..LOL...PS, its should be called Littlebraintown...
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Sticks and stones.....
LydiaQ

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CHECK THIS OUT, THEN CHECK OUT THE GLAMOROUS POOCH WEBSITE..THIS IS FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY..mmmmmmm
Despite what they may tell you, pet stores do sell puppy mill puppies. Here's a list of common claims by pet stores, and what they really mean.
Pet stores say: "Our puppies come from breeders, not puppy mills."
The word breeder is not an exclusive term. Anyone who puts two dogs together and produces puppies is, technically, a breeder.
Truly responsible breeders do not sell their puppies to pet stores, they want to meet their puppy buyers in person and do not sell their puppies to the first person who shows up with cash in hand. Most breed club's Code of Ethics state that their breeders refuse to sell their dogs to pet dealers or any other commercial sources of distribution.
"All of our puppies come from USDA-inspected facilities, so we know they are not from puppy mills."
Being USDA or government inspected does not mean that the business is not a puppy mill, any more than having a driver's license guarantees that the holder is a good driver. Unfortunately, most USDA-licensed breeders house dozens or even hundreds of breeding dogs in small wire cages for their entire lives—and sadly, this is legal under current USDA regulations, which require only minimal standards of food, water and shelter. But many USDA facilities have been found in violation of even these minimal standards. It is extremely rare for the USDA to revoke a commercial breeder's license or even fine a puppy mill that has repeated violations. There are hundreds of USDA-licensed puppy mills in operation that have long lists of violations and problems associated with them and yet regularly sell to pet stores.
"We know our breeders are not puppy mills because we only deal with breeders we know."
If a pet store manager tells you this, ask to see documentation that shows exactly where their suppliers are located. In most cases, you will find out that the breeders they "know" are in distant states. The store manager's definition of "knowing" a breeder often just means they have been receiving shipments of puppies from the same place repeatedly. In most cases, the owner or manager has never visited the breeder's facility or inspected their records. Our investigations have revealed that even when store staff claim they inspect their facilities or hand-pick their puppies, often it is not true.not
Commercial breeders in all states who sell wholesale to pet stores are required to be regulated by the USDA. Some states (such as Missouri and Pennsylvania) also require a state kennel license and state inspections. This does not mean that puppies from Missouri or Pennsylvania are healthier. In fact, these states have two of the worst concentrations of puppy mills in the United States.
"Our store's puppies are healthy—they come with a health certificate from a licensed veterinarian."
A health certificate is not a bonus but is required for any puppy sold commercially across state lines. It only means that the puppy has had a very brief "wellness" check by a
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veterinarian. This examination does not include testing the puppy or his or her parents for genetic disorders, parasites, or testing for diseases such as Giardia and Brucellosis, both of which are contagious to humans and are frequently seen in puppy mill puppies.

"Our puppies come with a health guarantee."
Read health guarantees very carefully. They are often designed to protect the store's interests more than yours. They can be full of exclusions and loopholes, and often require you to return a sick puppy to the store in order to get a refund. The store management will often use the puppy's health certificate as proof that the animal was healthy when he or she left the store, leaving the buyer helpless if the puppy becomes sick just a few hours or days after purchase.

"Consumers know our puppies are from good breeders because they are registered and come with papers."
Purebred registration papers (from one of many kennel clubs or other dog registries) are only a record of a puppy's parents (and sometimes earlier generations). Puppy mills routinely sell puppies with papers from prestigious sounding kennel clubs. Registration papers do nothing to ensure that an individual puppy (or his or her parents) is healthy or free of genetic defects, or that they were raised in a humane and clean environment.

"We know this is a good breeder. We've never had a problem with any of their puppies."
Keep in mind that even facilities with mostly healthy puppies and problem-free inspection reports may be keeping dozens or even hundreds of breeding dogs in cages for their entire lives. These parent dogs live behind bars from birth until death, without ever feeling grass under their feet, enjoying a treat or toy, or having loving human contact or proper veterinary care. They are bred repeatedly until they can no longer reproduce, and then they are destroyed or discarded.

The real tragedy of puppy mills is that keeping breeding dogs in such a way is perfectly legal. Only the public can stop the cruel cycle of puppy mills, by refusing to buy the puppies that keep these kinds of breeders in business.
Keep in mind that even facilities with mostly healthy puppies and problem-free inspection reports may be keeping dozens or even hundreds of breeding dogs in cages for their entire lives. These parent dogs live behind bars from birth until death, without ever feeling grass under their feet, enjoying a treat or toy, or having loving human contact or proper veterinary care. They are bred repeatedly until they can no longer reproduce, and then they are destroyed or discarded.
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