Indictment returned in Lindstrom murder

Indictment returned in Lindstrom murder

There are 68 comments on the The Minneapolis-St. Paul Pioneer Press story from Aug 25, 2006, titled Indictment returned in Lindstrom murder. In it, The Minneapolis-St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that:

The Chisago County Grand Jury has returned a first-degree murder indictment in the July 22 killing of Martin Roy Carlson, 25, of Center City.

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local of lindstrom

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#63 Nov 28, 2012
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local of lindstrom

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#64 Nov 28, 2012
what a tragedy and how interesting to read all of this. the opinions of all are truly a sign of how people feel about drugs, murder and friendship. i think back on when Marty was a very little boy. he stayed with his Grandmother mostly and his father who would come and go in his life. theres a local place, the porterhouse, where Scotty (martins dad) would hang out often and his boy Marty was left to be on his own, often! Never though did anyone in the community know who his mom was.??? I beleive Martins gramma was the one left raising him. So, lets put this into perspective; IF you choose to have children, then know that its time to put your own selfish needs aside and raise them. seek out the help that is all over this community and be a citizen that makes better of this local area, not worse. This whole crowd invovled in this murder and drug deal, sought out drugs and drinking and not sobriety. I knew of them all..and so did you, if your kids were the same age as marty and they grew up here you knew this crowd as well! and dont be too judgemental, because ALL of us fear the monster ADDICTION. we can go to church, we can parent better than the best, but we all are susceptible to someone, somewhere in our lives that will not conquer addiction. There is all kinds of help here in Chisago to beat this montster called addiction. please do yourselves a favor and reach out to make this a better life for Marty's son and our grandchildren. CHNAGE TAKES EFFORT. Addiction is real...so is AA and ALANON..
insideinfo

Blythe, CA

#65 Nov 28, 2012
local of lindstrom wrote:
what a tragedy and how interesting to read all of this. the opinions of all are truly a sign of how people feel about drugs, murder and friendship. i think back on when Marty was a very little boy. he stayed with his Grandmother mostly and his father who would come and go in his life. theres a local place, the porterhouse, where Scotty (martins dad) would hang out often and his boy Marty was left to be on his own, often! Never though did anyone in the community know who his mom was.??? I beleive Martins gramma was the one left raising him. So, lets put this into perspective; IF you choose to have children, then know that its time to put your own selfish needs aside and raise them. seek out the help that is all over this community and be a citizen that makes better of this local area, not worse. This whole crowd invovled in this murder and drug deal, sought out drugs and drinking and not sobriety. I knew of them all..and so did you, if your kids were the same age as marty and they grew up here you knew this crowd as well! and dont be too judgemental, because ALL of us fear the monster ADDICTION. we can go to church, we can parent better than the best, but we all are susceptible to someone, somewhere in our lives that will not conquer addiction. There is all kinds of help here in Chisago to beat this montster called addiction. please do yourselves a favor and reach out to make this a better life for Marty's son and our grandchildren. CHNAGE TAKES EFFORT. Addiction is real...so is AA and ALANON..
Extremely well said. I couldn't agree more!
nickname

Wyoming, MN

#66 Jan 12, 2014
Conservitive American wrote:
Sell Drugs to my kids and I will personally enjoy sending you to HELL. IF gang bangers and Drug dealers all died tomarrow we would not NEED the police. Especially if you SHEEPLE would step up and arm yourself, Instead of cowering in the corner. Thats what I really don't understand here, Like 9/11/2001 there are what 10 terrorist and 200 Americans on an aircraft and everybody is such a freaking coward they just sit there and let 'em take over. Terrorist or Dealer its the same to me.
He Was killed because he was a pile of crap, he got what he deserved. Justified Homocide!
he was not a pile of crap he wad my moms best friend and I was Iike five or six and he treated me better than you will ever treat another person and he wasn't even my dad and you still say that he was a pile of crap
Son

Saint Croix Falls, WI

#67 Nov 23, 2014
insideinfo wrote:
<quoted text> Marty was neither a good father nor a good person. The reason why he sold drugs was so he did not have to work a regular job and pay child support to his son. His only involvement with his son came largely because he was nagged to do so by his son's mother. Ruthzinda's mother did not like the involvement of her daughter with Marty because Marty only cared about himself and what he wanted. He drove around in a fancy car spreading his drug money around like Donald Trump all the while providing nothing to his son. The problem here is that while many people like Mattias' grandmother constantly encouraged Marty to leave the drugs behind and get help to straighten out his life, the co-dependent actions of people like Ruthzinda and his mother Jennifer who still live in denial concerning Marty's actions and beliefs that he provided a public service and that the consequences of his behavior would not catch up with him along with the drug itself and the lure of untraceable monetary income spoke louder to Marty than responsibilty. Marty deserved to die no more or less than any of us. Craig Fleming did not have the right to take a life even if he had been a perfect person which he was not. It was in fact premeditated as Craig made it known to Marty and others what he intended to do and his lame reasons for it which begs the question why no one informed the police of Craig's threats ahead of time. By the way Jordan, nice job of trying to pass yourself off as Mattias to again justify Marty's actions, behaviors and addiction. Perhaps you were as much a part of the problem as anyone. The sad part is that Mattias is the one victimized here. He was victimized by a deadbeat dad who chose to get himself murdered and spread the plague of drugs like Johnny Appleseed. He was victimized by Craig Fleming who thinking he was able to play God, chose to take another person's life for no better reason than his own ego trip. He was vicitimized by those who stood around and watched while Marty and Craig carried out their plots and did nothing to help or stop it especially those who claim to care about Marty the most.
okay buddy listen up. Funny you think that was my mom. No, it wasn't my fucking mother. It was me, Mattias Carlson. I am 17 years old, I was enrolled to Forest Lake schools from grades 1st to 6th, and I have been enrolled in Osceola, Wisconsin school since 8th grade. I first came about this little forum just trying to figure who my dad actually was. How he died. What happened. I was in 8th grade when I found this shit out. My mom nor anyone ever told me anything. At first, I didn't want to believe any of this. I was 13-14 years old. I thought my father was an angel. Guess not. So glad to find out how the public thought of my father. So glad to know all the pain both the friends and family felt about both parties involved. And btw, "insiderinfo," who ever the fuck you are. Add me on Facebook. Sometime. Mattias Carlson. And we can have a straight up convo.
Son

Saint Croix Falls, WI

#68 Nov 23, 2014
Conservitive American wrote:
Sell Drugs to my kids and I will personally enjoy sending you to HELL. IF gang bangers and Drug dealers all died tomarrow we would not NEED the police. Especially if you SHEEPLE would step up and arm yourself, Instead of cowering in the corner. Thats what I really don't understand here, Like 9/11/2001 there are what 10 terrorist and 200 Americans on an aircraft and everybody is such a freaking coward they just sit there and let 'em take over. Terrorist or Dealer its the same to me.
He Was killed because he was a pile of crap, he got what he deserved. Justified Homocide!
Wow this post gave me cancer. Not because you insult my drug dealing father, but because everything else you said makes me wish nuclear genocide. Can't wait for you to go to hell. I'll see you there "Conservitive American." Btw, it's "conservative."
Son

Saint Croix Falls, WI

#70 Nov 23, 2014
Mark wrote:
It's interesting reading these comments. My guess is that most of them are sent in by people that did not know much about Martin or what happened. It's sad that these things happen.
But, if Martin was a drug dealer somebody filled his place immediately. Another unfortunate reality in today's society.
I'm hopeful that his soul has moved on to a better place, and I would also hope that those who are filled with hate and rage find some peace while they are still alive.
God loves all his children
Too bad God isn't real and even if he was and the Bible was still relevant at all, we all fall short of Him.
msgs

Saint Paul, MN

#71 Feb 11, 2016
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Craig Flemming was a drug user/dealer, just as much as Martin Carlson was...and irregardless i think the use of drugs is a sin not worthy of death as a punishment. How would you know anyone was a drug dealer unless you do drugs yourself or are a cop? you can hear rumors or make assumptions but you know what they say about that, they only make an-ass-out of u-and -me...
Craig was not a drug user or dealer

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