Who do you support for U.S. Senate in North Carolina in 2010?

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Sep 19, 2012
 
Silvercoast half are going one way and half the other way.The Russian papers say America is a cancer on the face of the earth.In Europe they say America moves toward socialism.Russians are predicting civil unrest in America no matter who wins.Its beginning to seem like the twenty first century is going to be the twenty LAST CENTURY.

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Arnold, I don't think anyone can beat Obama and it's not because of Obama's record. Take into consideration that Obama has done everything he can in the last two years of his presidencey to insure re-election. He's allowed illegals to stay in this country and then receive funds to go to college. I don't care if they were born here, if they're parents are illegal then they are, to me. So he's catered to the Hispanic votes. He has done MORE than enough to secure the vote of the welfare population in our country. I can't believe the Dept. Of Agriculture is running tv commercials saying "Give SNAP a try" and this is also in Spanish and English. He has done away with the laws enacted by Bill Clinton about what welfare recepient accomplish to stay on welfare and apparently now, that's sit on your butt and do nothing or "Give SNAP a try." I'm not talking about people that have lost their jobs and need temporary assistance. Obamacare is nothing more than a ruse for poor uneducated people to think AGAIN, that the day after the election Obama's going to pay their medical bills, everybody is getting $500 and Obama's going to help pay their rent. This happened after the last election. The reason Obama is catering to college age adults by raising the amount they can receive again from the government for a "small interest rate" that can be paid over 20 years is because there are no jobs as there was when you and I attended college and we actually worked and paid our tuition. I'm no MBA, but I have enough sense to know that colleges are not only teaching institutions, but they're also run like a business. If colleges are going to compete they have to recruit the best they can for professors and most college professors don't work for peanuts, therefore, the cost of college has increased as well. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Obama is the biggest con of all, he's written a check his butt can't cover and it will take all those with entitlement signs in their eyes four more years to figure this out.
You may wish to check out how many hispanics Obama has deported in 4 years in comparison to Bush's 8 years as President before you get on another "catering to hispanics " soap box. How can education for more young adults be a bad thing for this nation? Ask Silver if it hurt him. He received government assistance. In regard to "work first" you say Obama axed, you may want to check out the choices that each individual state had in this area, and the role Republican governors played in this policy. Also, the Tea Party election of 2010 , Tea Party candidates ran on the premise to bring jobs to America, and then vote down the Job Restoration Act that Obama presented to them. What alternative for jobs did they propose? The Republican party has been the biggest obstrutionists known to sny age of American history. And the Bush tax cuts that were supposed to open jobs by giving tax breaks to the wealthy. This has been in effect for 10 years or more. Can you tell me where the jobs are that this measure was said to restore? Where are they? Those tax breaks are in the pockets of the rich, and Romney wants to give them more? Can you not see the failed policy in this? If you tell me one thing in response, tell me where the jobs are at that this tax break was suppose to bring? Where? And you want more of the same under another Republican Administration?
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Sep 19, 2012
 
Conflict at some times is inevitable.

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You may wish to check out how many hispanics Obama has deported in 4 years in comparison to Bush's 8 years as President before you get on another "catering to hispanics " soap box. How can education for more young adults be a bad thing for this nation? Ask Silver if it hurt him. He received government assistance. In regard to "work first" you say Obama axed, you may want to check out the choices that each individual state had in this area, and the role Republican governors played in this policy. Also, the Tea Party election of 2010 , Tea Party candidates ran on the premise to bring jobs to America, and then vote down the Job Restoration Act that Obama presented to them. What alternative for jobs did they propose? The Republican party has been the biggest obstrutionists known to sny age of American history. And the Bush tax cuts that were supposed to open jobs by giving tax breaks to the wealthy. This has been in effect for 10 years or more. Can you tell me where the jobs are that this measure was said to restore? Where are they? Those tax breaks are in the pockets of the rich, and Romney wants to give them more? Can you not see the failed policy in this? If you tell me one thing in response, tell me where the jobs are at that this tax break was suppose to bring? Where? And you want more of the same under another Republican Administration?
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Here is an interesting perspective of your president.

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You may wish to check out how many hispanics Obama has deported in 4 years in comparison to Bush's 8 years as President before you get on another "catering to hispanics " soap box. How can education for more young adults be a bad thing for this nation? Ask Silver if it hurt him. He received government assistance. In regard to "work first" you say Obama axed, you may want to check out the choices that each individual state had in this area, and the role Republican governors played in this policy. Also, the Tea Party election of 2010 , Tea Party candidates ran on the premise to bring jobs to America, and then vote down the Job Restoration Act that Obama presented to them. What alternative for jobs did they propose? The Republican party has been the biggest obstrutionists known to sny age of American history. And the Bush tax cuts that were supposed to open jobs by giving tax breaks to the wealthy. This has been in effect for 10 years or more. Can you tell me where the jobs are that this measure was said to restore? Where are they? Those tax breaks are in the pockets of the rich, and Romney wants to give them more? Can you not see the failed policy in this? If you tell me one thing in response, tell me where the jobs are at that this tax break was suppose to bring? Where? And you want more of the same under another Republican Administration?
Arnold, every year 65,000 undocumented children in our country graduate high school this was reported in 2010. Needless to say, their parents are illegal as well. For the sake of argument let's say there's at least 5 people in Hispanic families 65,000x5=325,000. Obama's highest year of deportation was in 2009 at 387,780 then decreased to 227,163 in 2010 (for some unknown reason). Pretty much those that are allowed to stay here in this country illegally as families because they had a child here is cancelling out those he's deporting, so basically he's doing very little deportation. I don't know if you're speaking of catering to hispanics about education or actually citizens of the U.S. can be a bad thing, well it can be a bad thing because they're here illegally. This isn't the United States of Mexico. They have their own country.

Please show me some policies by Obama that were a success and he's suppose to be the savior of the middle class and the poor. Where are those shovel ready jobs, where's all this big infrastructure building that was going to employee the masses, where's the help for small businesses? Please tell me. Don't ask me about Bush, he's not president and that's typical democratic rhetoric. Face it, Obama hasn't done anything for this country. Yes, he gave the order to kill Osama Bin Laden and for that I'm very glad. Killing one terrorist has not helped our economy at all. He's shown he inept about foreign policy last week and still holding onto we were attacked over a silly video. Was there a video that caused us to be attacked on 9/11?

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Sep 19, 2012
 
Well somebody PLEASE tell me how a president can be reelected with 8.2 unemployment? Bacon Why? Why do you think this can happen? Romney should be ten points ahead in the polls.

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Well somebody PLEASE tell me how a president can be reelected with 8.2 unemployment? Bacon Why? Why do you think this can happen? Romney should be ten points ahead in the polls.
I can only speculate Waco. I think Obama has made it a heck of lot easier to be unemployed than employed. It's really very sad to me the unemployment rate is so high and some of these people unemployed actually want to work but there's no jobs for them, so they've given up looking for jobs and rely on the government as those that choose not to work. Waco, as long as we keep printing more money to keep this country going instead of promoting an environment that creates jobs to get people off entitlements, more and more people will just accept it is what it is and why cut off the hand that feeds them.
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Sep 19, 2012
 
Enough.all this is getting me depressed.Somebody that knows something about wine just brought me something that is supposed to be good.She says I can't put ice cubes in it.

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Sep 19, 2012
 
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Arnold, every year 65,000 undocumented children in our country graduate high school this was reported in 2010. Needless to say, their parents are illegal as well. For the sake of argument let's say there's at least 5 people in Hispanic families 65,000x5=325,000. Obama's highest year of deportation was in 2009 at 387,780 then decreased to 227,163 in 2010 (for some unknown reason). Pretty much those that are allowed to stay here in this country illegally as families because they had a child here is cancelling out those he's deporting, so basically he's doing very little deportation. I don't know if you're speaking of catering to hispanics about education or actually citizens of the U.S. can be a bad thing, well it can be a bad thing because they're here illegally. This isn't the United States of Mexico. They have their own country.
Please show me some policies by Obama that were a success and he's suppose to be the savior of the middle class and the poor. Where are those shovel ready jobs, where's all this big infrastructure building that was going to employee the masses, where's the help for small businesses? Please tell me. Don't ask me about Bush, he's not president and that's typical democratic rhetoric. Face it, Obama hasn't done anything for this country. Yes, he gave the order to kill Osama Bin Laden and for that I'm very glad. Killing one terrorist has not helped our economy at all. He's shown he inept about foreign policy last week and still holding onto we were attacked over a silly video. Was there a video that caused us to be attacked on 9/11?
Here is the ONE question that I asked you to answer and you never said a word. If the Bush tax cuts were designed to create jobs for Americans by giving the wealthy extensive tax breaks, where are the jobs after more than 10 years of these breaks?

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I can only speculate Waco. I think Obama has made it a heck of lot easier to be unemployed than employed. It's really very sad to me the unemployment rate is so high and some of these people unemployed actually want to work but there's no jobs for them, so they've given up looking for jobs and rely on the government as those that choose not to work. Waco, as long as we keep printing more money to keep this country going instead of promoting an environment that creates jobs to get people off entitlements, more and more people will just accept it is what it is and why cut off the hand that feeds them.
Where are the jobs the Tea Party promised to create in the election of 2010 and put the country back to work? Talk about failed promises! And if Obama would have not saved GM and Chrysler in 2009, how many more unemployment checks would the government have issued? What bs you Republicans continue to spout!

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Sep 19, 2012
 
Silver, If Herman Cain would have been the Republican nominee, would you have supported his candidacy by voting for him?

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Sep 19, 2012
 
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Oh, you mean just like these bail outs?
http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysuppl...
Oh, you must of meant these bail outs...
http://detroit.about.com/od/bigthreebailout/f...
Did you have a point? Why did you not answer the question. Are these companies those that support the dems?
Fact is, you just proved my point for me, thanks.

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Sep 19, 2012
 
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That article proved MY point stupid.
If you see something in it that leads credence to your claim, cut and paste it.

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Where are the jobs the Tea Party promised to create in the election of 2010 and put the country back to work? Talk about failed promises! And if Obama would have not saved GM and Chrysler in 2009, how many more unemployment checks would the government have issued? What bs you Republicans continue to spout!
Obama didn't save GM, WE, the taxpayers did. As a matter of fact we, the taxpayers, still own some of GM. I don't know anything about Tea Party promises I've never kept up with them. You ask me in a previous post about Bush era tax cuts for the rich, well in case you haven't noticed, Bush isn't in office, you tell me why his tax breaks weren't reversed. Again, you have yet to answer my questions about what Obama has done for this country and I'm speaking mainly to the middle class. He's done MORE than enough for the poor and talked a tough talk about taxing the rich more, but yet that's all he's done is talk. What has he done for those of us that are middle class Americans? He's no different than you guys claim Romney to be. He owes too much to the rich before election time to start taxing them and he needs the votes of the poor to keep them enslaved to entitlements. Now please tell me other than using OUR tax dollars to save GM, what has he done for all the other companies that have closed under his presidency, home foreclosures that took place under his presidency, unemployment over 8%, help for start up for small businesses? Don't give me your BS of he's helping with education. Obama can promise free college tuition to every person legal or illegal in our country, but can he promise them a job after they graduate?

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Sep 19, 2012
 
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And yet again, you fail to provide all of us an address to send you a bill.
Wait for it....
Wait for it....
Wait for it....
Zero Substance...
So you cannot refute my point? I see you have failed yet again.

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Where are the jobs the Tea Party promised to create in the election of 2010 and put the country back to work? Talk about failed promises! And if Obama would have not saved GM and Chrysler in 2009, how many more unemployment checks would the government have issued? What bs you Republicans continue to spout!
Here's a reality check for you and all the great things Obama has done for those "green jobs.:

http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-o...

I equate the failure of the green jobs with the Chevy Volt, you know the car that costs 89k to build and GM is selling for about 40k? No wonder GM is in trouble if this is how they think businesses succeed. It's so pathetic that we, the taxpayers, paid twice for GM, once to "save them from bankruptcy" and twice to purchase the Volt for government use.
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Silver, If Herman Cain would have been the Republican nominee, would you have supported his candidacy by voting for him?
silvercoast I think you would have voted for Cain.He's pretty conservative Am I right or wrong?

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Sep 19, 2012
 
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ok man ok man...Why should I pay more because you are too lazy to get a job and do your part? Why should the upper class pay more for the lower class to get a free ride?
Did I say you should? Nope.
Why should I pay so much in taxes for Mitt to get large handouts?
And Mitt's father got welfare for years.
Are you getting a tax hike? Do you expect us to believe you are making over 250K per year?
And who said I was to lazy to get a job? Oh, I forgot, Mitt said it. Does that mean it is so? Of course not, because he is just a f_cking lying rich kid and you are dumb enough to believe him.
His parents handed him his first house.
I wish I could save a thousand a month by having my home paid for by daddy. It sure would make it easier to save up to build businesses.

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I am aware of the casualties of both sides. I do believe it was about federal government involvement in states affairs. Robert E Lee has been deemed one of the greatest military tacticians of the time. It was unfortunate the Southern states lost due to the incapability to wage war logistically, i.e. money, troops and equipement and all related support for that. I also believe slavery would of been abolished later rather than sooner. Civilized soceity would have dictated it happen eventually through elections. But I think it would have and should have been up to the people to decide for themselves and not forced upon by the federal government, regardless of politics or who would of been offended or hurt. The slaves did have an alternative. They could of gone back to their motherlands, but they chose to stay.
I do think AZ is an equal as a human being as much as my kids and my wife. But we are not equal because we do not share the same values or ideas on life. I can walk on my side of the street but appearently, they(Seven, Mike,yourself, TSF and AZ) think that because they are free they have the right to go where ever they choose and they feel it is ok to force their points of views and ideas on everyone and "damn the torpedos" if you disagree.
And because of that is why I say, and I do mean this from the bottom of my heart, fuck you. We will agree to disagree on everything, I will not cooperate and I will show no quarter. You want bipartisanship, go join a social fraternity. Majority rules. It always rules.
I plan on doing my part and changing the current majority in November.
By the way...How many Americans can actually claim this?
"What Disability Benefits Qualify as Earned Income for EITC?
IRS considers disability retirement benefits as earned income until you reach minimum retirement age. Minimum retirement age is the earliest age you could have received a pension or annuity if you did not have the disability.
After you reach minimum retirement age, IRS considers the payments as a pension and not earned income.
Benefits such as Social Security Disability Insurance, SSI, or military disability pensions are not considered earned income and cannot be used to claim Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). You may qualify for the credit only if you, or your spouse, if filing a joint return, have other earned income."
I think some of that 47% can claim, but not all. Where is your accountability for your teammates?
Here is the irony.
"they feel it is ok to force their points of views and ideas on everyone and "damn the torpedos" if you disagree."
Now apply that to the slaves and slave owners.

Freedom should not be up for a vote. It is an inalienable right endowed by our creator(nature).

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Silver, Repubs have also done secret videos, but today it came out that Mother Jones, the people that first leaked the video, admitted to "editing" some of the video. Now that's dirty pool. Why would they need to "edit" the video? My reasoning is, they couldn't make their smoking gun case without "editing" the video. I think if either side is going to secretly tape and leak or post videos, post the whole video, not this selective editing.
Mitt stands by the claims of the video. The statements are long winded. I cannot see where there could be something that actually changed the context. Again,Mitt stands by the statements. He just says it could have been worded better or something to that effect.
Fact is, the hard right wingers agree with Mitt's comments. Do you?

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