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Allen

Robbins, NC

#44898 Nov 26, 2013
TSF wrote:
I think Allen's perspective is on target. I am unsure why, but I have always enjoyed playing demolition derby with any turd in a Mercedes who decides to crowd me on the road. It makes my insurance premiums go up, but it seems to be worth it. It isn't really antipathy for the rich but rather abhorrence toward the effect money has on many of those who have never experienced wealth before and on those who have inherited wealth and believe it makes them special. I just see no justification for rudeness and the rich seem generally to have more than their share. Some of us out here just have a blasphemous irreverence for money.
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For years I drove a Ford Escort, this year I bought a Mustang. I have always had a clean driving record. I usually never do more than five miles over the posted limit but you wouldn't believe the idiots that want to challenge you just because you drive a sporty car. If I'm on the interstate I try to get in front of them in a spot where they can't pass then slow down to five miles below the posted limit. That always pisses them off. Lol.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#44899 Nov 26, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
Robin Hood took from the rich, gave to the poor.Obama wants to take from the middle class, and give to the poor.If Obama has his way, there will be only rich, and poor.No middle class.
Stealing is stealing and wrong no matter what the motive.

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Since: May 12

Houston

#44900 Nov 26, 2013
Obama has been played by the Iranians.This will have the effect of causing the Saudis and the Turks to develop nukes, which will dramatically destabilize the whole area, which isn't real stable to begin with.

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Since: May 12

Houston

#44901 Nov 26, 2013
Allen wrote:
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For years I drove a Ford Escort, this year I bought a Mustang. I have always had a clean driving record. I usually never do more than five miles over the posted limit but you wouldn't believe the idiots that want to challenge you just because you drive a sporty car. If I'm on the interstate I try to get in front of them in a spot where they can't pass then slow down to five miles below the posted limit. That always pisses them off. Lol.
I used to do that.After the idiot rear ended my car, I got out of the habit of teaching people a lesson on the highway.
Patriot

Savannah, GA

#44902 Nov 26, 2013
Ben wrote:
Another great headline: "Companies Prepare to Pass More Health Costs to Workers
Firms Brace for Influx of Participants in Insurance Plans Who Had Earlier Opted Out", gets better and better.
Companies have been passing health insurance costs on to their employees, YEARS Before ObamaCare was Invented...
Allen

Robbins, NC

#44903 Nov 26, 2013
Taxpayer wrote:
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There is that communist minded thinking. Pity me, I need the government to steal for me.
No, what I don't need is the government to steal from me then enable the rich to steal from them. What I don't need is TEA "Tax Everything Again". What I don't need is TEA "Terrorist Extorting America".
Taxpayer

Gatesville, NC

#44904 Nov 26, 2013
One of the most startling gaps in the Communist minded theory is the lack of any clear notion of how a Communist economy would be organized. In the writings of the founders of communism, there is virtually nothing on this subject. This gap was not an oversight, but was in fact a necessary consequence of the general theory of communism. That theory taught, in effect, that as a society moves inevitably from one level of development to another, there is no way of knowing what the next stage will demand until in fact it has arrived. Communism will supplant and destroy the market economy of capitalism. What will its own economy be like? That we cannot know until we are there and have a chance to see what the world looks like without any institution resembling an economic market. The manifesto, in fact, expresses a deep contempt for “utopian socialists” who propose “an organization of society specially contrived” by them, instead of waiting out the verdict of history and depending on the “spontaneous class organization of the proletariat.” The Communist economy would organize itself according to principles that would become apparent only when the arena had been cleared of the market principle.
Operating then, in this vacuum of guidance left behind by Mark’s prophets, how did the founders of the Soviet Union proceed to organize their new economy? The answer is that they applied as faithfully as they could the teachings of their masters. Since those teachings were essentially negative, their actions had to have the same quality. They started by attempting to root out from the Russian scene every vestige of the market principle, even discouraging the use of money, which they hoped soon to abolish altogether. The production and distribution of goods were put under central direction, the theory being that the flow of goods would be directed by social need without reference to principles of profit and loss. This experiment began in 1919 and came to an abrupt end in March of 1921. It was a catastrophic failure. Sound familiar? It brought with it administrative chaos and an almost inconceivable disorder in economic affairs, culminating in appalling shortages of the most elementary necessities. Sounds like where we are headed with this communist want to be government.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#44905 Nov 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Companies have been passing health insurance costs on to their employees, YEARS Before ObamaCare was Invented...
Now because of Obamacare, they're passing insurance costs to the whole country. As usual the consumer will pay twice for whatever goods or commodities companies are offering. The company offering healthcare will have to offset the NEW cost of Obamacare by raising their prices and then the consumer will have to pay higher prices for their new Obamacare coverage. A no win situation.
Patriot

Savannah, GA

#44906 Nov 26, 2013
Taxpayer wrote:
One of the most startling gaps in the Communist minded theory is the lack of any clear notion of how a Communist economy would be organized. In the writings of the founders of communism, there is virtually nothing on this subject. This gap was not an oversight, but was in fact a necessary consequence of the general theory of communism. That theory taught, in effect, that as a society moves inevitably from one level of development to another, there is no way of knowing what the next stage will demand until in fact it has arrived. Communism will supplant and destroy the market economy of capitalism. What will its own economy be like? That we cannot know until we are there and have a chance to see what the world looks like without any institution resembling an economic market. The manifesto, in fact, expresses a deep contempt for “utopian socialists” who propose “an organization of society specially contrived” by them, instead of waiting out the verdict of history and depending on the “spontaneous class organization of the proletariat.” The Communist economy would organize itself according to principles that would become apparent only when the arena had been cleared of the market principle.
Operating then, in this vacuum of guidance left behind by Mark’s prophets, how did the founders of the Soviet Union proceed to organize their new economy? The answer is that they applied as faithfully as they could the teachings of their masters. Since those teachings were essentially negative, their actions had to have the same quality. They started by attempting to root out from the Russian scene every vestige of the market principle, even discouraging the use of money, which they hoped soon to abolish altogether. The production and distribution of goods were put under central direction, the theory being that the flow of goods would be directed by social need without reference to principles of profit and loss. This experiment began in 1919 and came to an abrupt end in March of 1921. It was a catastrophic failure. Sound familiar? It brought with it administrative chaos and an almost inconceivable disorder in economic affairs, culminating in appalling shortages of the most elementary necessities. Sounds like where we are headed with this communist want to be government.
Are You a Member Of The John Birch Society???? Do you see Commies under your bed, and behind every tree and bush ???
Allen

Robbins, NC

#44907 Nov 26, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I used to do that.After the idiot rear ended my car, I got out of the habit of teaching people a lesson on the highway.
The way I see they have two choices, either back the hell off or eat this pony. They want to eat it fine, they can buy two new ones. Lol.
TSF

Rocky Mount, NC

#44908 Nov 26, 2013
I may be somewhat, I don't know. I have worked very hard for many years and have been blessed beyond any of my youthful expectations. Some years, thankfully few, my employees made more than I did. I am not jealous of wealth, I just do not worship it. I could drive a Mercedes, but I don't like them. My experience with vehicles over the years is that Ford is the best choice for miles per dollar and minimum maintenance cost. That too could be called a personal opinion . I like BMWs. They are good vehicles but I like Fords better since I am more tuned to economics. People on welfare buy the old Cadillac's because they quickly devalue in resale but remain serviceable for many years. The fact that you value education and recognize it's economic and cultural benefit for your children speaks well of your character and intelligence..
Makin bacon wrote:
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TSF, aren't you being just a bit hypocritical? Didn't you say you have a small plane you use and you also own your own company. Judging from the different locations of your post, you must travel a good bit and I'll assume that's for business. You seem to be a hard working person that's keeping their business afloat and you've managed to raise several children and send them all to college. I don't believe you work this hard at the end of the day to figure out you only made 50k a year?!?!?
I don't begrudge wealthy people, nor am I jealous of what kind of car they drive. People on welfare can drive a Cadillac and I've yet to figure that out, so how do you determine when you see someone driving a Mercedes if they're the rich on welfare or the poor on welfare as you often call out both groups?
I drove a BMW for years and it didn't mean I was wealthy or hanging out with the likes of Bill Gates. Come on TSF, you're better than that.
My kid paid to go through medical school and works her butt off, do you not think she should make more than a mechanic? I was going to say plumber but they make darn good money. Do you think she should be ashamed of her earnings? She's married now, lives in an extremely modest home by middle class standards and drives a paid for Toyota. Not everyone that has money throws it around overtly just because they have it. Also, my kid DONATES plenty of time to help others not as fortunate. We'd be lucky to have more people like her in this country.
Patriot

Savannah, GA

#44909 Nov 26, 2013
Have you ever taken a Look at Socialized Medicine in NON-Communist Countries around the world?? You will probably be surprised...

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Patriot

Savannah, GA

#44910 Nov 26, 2013
Golly Gee, From $5.00 a month to $75.00 a Month, where can you get health insurance that cheap in America with NO deductibles and NO Co-Pays ??????

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While Ontario receives transfer payments from the federal government of Canada to partially fund health care, OHIP is also supported by general provincial tax revenues and premiums (taxes) paid by employers and individuals. Employers are charged a payroll health care tax (with an exemption for small businesses) and residents of the province pay a health premium (introduced in 2004) as part of their income taxes.
The Ontario Health Premium (OHP) is a component of Ontario's Personal Income Tax system. The OHP is based on taxable income for a taxation year. As of May 2010, an Ontario resident with taxable income (i.e. income after subtracting allowable deductions) of $21,000 pays $60 per year. With taxable income of $22,000, the premium doubles to $120; with taxable income of $23,000, the premium is $180; with taxable income of $24,000, the premium is $240. The premium increases at a decreasing rate thereafter for taxable incomes up to $200,600, at which point the maximum premium of $900 is reached.[1]
Patriot

Savannah, GA

#44911 Nov 26, 2013
The LYING Republicans tried to tell us the Canadians did NOT Like their National Health Insurance.

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Patriot

Savannah, GA

#44912 Nov 26, 2013
We don't have the Best, But, We Do Have the Most Expensive.

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Since: May 12

Houston

#44913 Nov 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Companies have been passing health insurance costs on to their employees, YEARS Before ObamaCare was Invented...
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Patriot

Savannah, GA

#44914 Nov 26, 2013
Tommy Douglas is the Father of "Socialized Medicine" in Canada. Evidently the Canadians Sure Do LOVE their Single Payer National Health Care...!!!!

Republicans LIE like Rugs, you Can't take their word for Anything.....

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Since: May 12

Houston

#44915 Nov 26, 2013
Only liar I see here is Obama.America isn't Canada.Canadian population is 38 million.American population is over 300 million.How many illegals does Canada insure? How much does Canada spend on defense?
Ben

Greer, SC

#44916 Nov 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
We don't have the Best, But, We Do Have the Most Expensive.
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"The most important requirements regarding health are set out in the Federal Constitution. We are responsible for more than twenty laws and numerous ordinances that are based on these standards. The range of our tasks is correspondingly broad: We are responsible for social health and accident insurance, regulations for chemicals, medicines, cosmetic products and utility articles, legislation in the areas of biosafety, research on humans and transplantation medicine, health promotion, national programs combating addiction and sexually transmitted diseases, radiation protection, and the regulation of university medical and health professionals. Furthermore, we represent the interests of Switzerland in health matters in international organisations and towards other countries" http://www.bag.admin.ch/org/auftrag/14106/ind... And yet the head of US Health services is changing the law to make it harder to get bone marrow from blood platelets. So I guess the twins in need will just have to die. BTY, the US is NOT Switzerland. Are their citizens required to have one firearm in every household? "Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe. Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations; Switzerland thus has one of the highest militia gun ownership rates in the world.[1] In recent times a minority of political opposition has expressed a desire for tighter gun regulations.[2] A referendum in February 2011 rejected stricter gun control.[3]" Point being, the US is NOT other countries. Go try becoming a citizen and sneak across their border. Dare ya.

Since: Dec 11

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#44917 Nov 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
The LYING Republicans tried to tell us the Canadians did NOT Like their National Health Insurance.
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Patriot, I don't think it was necessarily the republicans lying about Canadians not liking their healthcare it was the Canadians. Have you ever watched the busloads of Canadian citizens who couldn't get appointments with the GP for 6 months or more, their oncologists and you know cancer is not a disease to wait six months out to begin aggressive treatment. People were willing to cross into the U.S. to be seen in a timely fashion and not have to wait until they're appointment card to see their GP six months down the road was pried out of their cold, dead hand.

I live where there's socialized medicine. Not bad if you want cheap healthcare and if you ask your doctor in the U.S. if they know of the better doctors. Always remember, you get what you pay for and you do get that with socialized medicine. If you're reasonably healthy and don't go to the doctor that much, you're fine; however, if you're dealing with a catastrophic illness, that's a horse of another color.

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