PATRIC McCARTHY: THE REAL EVIDENCE
deanne murray

Wareham, MA

#977 Mar 25, 2013
Just like Jordan found Patrics body right ????? NOPE-- Michelle Cormier found my son. Jordan was not even near the scene when SHE found him---

“"Johnny Tango "”

Since: Dec 12

Franconia, NH

#978 Mar 25, 2013
deanne murray wrote:
Just like Jordan found Patrics body right ????? NOPE-- Michelle Cormier found my son. Jordan was not even near the scene when SHE found him---
Jordan took credit for finding Patric....but they sure don't want to take credit for the FAILURES OF NH LE on that day.
deanne murray

Wareham, MA

#979 Mar 26, 2013
When my son went missing that first day, they should of seized his Father's Excursion instead of waiting until my son was dead. I should say- Stephen gave permission, but anyway what is really funny is that when they documented the belongings in the vehicle, the noted it was a for expedition. How can Crime scene personnel F-UP on a detail like that. Goes to show you that they are incompetent. There was alos blood in the vehicle that that tested and a latent finger print. Did we ever find out who's blood was in that suv ??? NOPE not in almost 10yrs. INCOMPETENT======

“"Johnny Tango "”

Since: Dec 12

Franconia, NH

#980 Mar 26, 2013
deanne murray wrote:
When my son went missing that first day, they should of seized his Father's Excursion instead of waiting until my son was dead. I should say- Stephen gave permission, but anyway what is really funny is that when they documented the belongings in the vehicle, the noted it was a for expedition. How can Crime scene personnel F-UP on a detail like that. Goes to show you that they are incompetent. There was alos blood in the vehicle that that tested and a latent finger print. Did we ever find out who's blood was in that suv ??? NOPE not in almost 10yrs. INCOMPETENT======
This is just horrible.....incompetence BIG TIME.

What has happened to LE in NH.? It was not like this back in the 80's.
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#981 Mar 26, 2013
Tang Zoi wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just horrible.....incompetence BIG TIME.
What has happened to LE in NH.? It was not like this back in the 80's.
Sure, it was always better 'back in the day' right? Back when you rolled the streets?

Ridiculous, you are a pathetic shit stirrer.

Just a few questions, since you seem to have all the answers.

Do you care to answer if you think the FBI is in on the "coverup"?

They had the opportunity to investigate this case, they had the entire case file, why didn't they take any action? Oh wait, they must be in on the coverup, right?

How about the Attorney General's office, both past and present? Are they ALL in on the coverup of this poor young boy?

A young boy that none of us knew? From a family that has no political influence, no money to speak of, no ties to ANYONE in NH Law Enforcement, and was in fact not even from New Hampshire at all.

What, do you think we just all got together and said, "Hey, let's coverup this murder, you know, for the heck of it!"??

Now, we all decided to do this AFTER most of us spent many long days and nights searching that Mountain in the miserable, wet, rainy cold weather looking for the same young boy? I personally searched every single day and at least 3 of the nights.

So after doing that, we then decide "to hell with it, let's cover up this murder"?

Let's see,

Is the 'Parents of Murdered Children' in on it too? Now they are independant, non profit, and based far from New Hampshire, with no ties to NH Law Enforcement. Are they in on the coverup too?

It is funny to me that the ONLY 'experts'(term used VERY looseley) who believe this boy was murdered are the ones who were bought and paid for by the McCarthy family.. Hmmmmmm, sort of reminds me of that idiot Psychologist on the stand testifying for that Arias woman who killed her boyfriend.

Amazing what sort of 'opinions' you can get when you pay enough money.

Do you have a theory on exactly when we were all called together, in the same room, and given the official 'coverup story'?

How many people and Agencies do you think are in on this massive Conspiracy? How did we get the FBI involved and on board with the official story?

DO you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? How ridicuslous YOU sound?

You continue to make me sick.
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#982 Mar 26, 2013
Tang Zoi wrote:
<quoted text>
Jordan took credit for finding Patric....but they sure don't want to take credit for the FAILURES OF NH LE on that day.
Nothing to me more clearly demonstrates your complete lack of knowledge about Law Enforcement and how things really work than this mantra you repeat over and over....

You are upset that "
Tang Zoi wrote:
Jordan took credit for finding Patric....
...

Which by the way, is not at all true. I knew on the day Patric was found that a volunteer searcher on Jordans Team was the person who discovered Patric....

But back to your absurd starement about how Jordan "took credit" for finding Patric, let me ask you, have you ever taken part in a search and rescue? Do you think there is a prize for finding a dead boy? Seriously?

In your mind is it like finding the most Easter Eggs in the Easter egg hunt? Do you think there is some prize, some Trophy or Award?

For God sakes, no one thinks like that! He didn't take credit for something because there is no credit to be taken. It was the 4th or 5th day of an absoluetly exhausting search that by that time we all realized would be for a body not a living boy.

There was no credit to be taken, there was only sadness and sorrow among all of us. It was a terrible tragedy and we all wished we would have found him sooner, but we were certainly relieved that we did find him at all.

Nobody won a goddamn prize you idiot.

“"Johnny Tango "”

Since: Dec 12

Franconia, NH

#983 Mar 26, 2013
FrmLE wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing to me more clearly demonstrates your complete lack of knowledge about Law Enforcement and how things really work than this mantra you repeat over and over....
You are upset that "<quoted text>...
Which by the way, is not at all true. I knew on the day Patric was found that a volunteer searcher on Jordans Team was the person who discovered Patric....
But back to your absurd starement about how Jordan "took credit" for finding Patric, let me ask you, have you ever taken part in a search and rescue? Do you think there is a prize for finding a dead boy? Seriously?
In your mind is it like finding the most Easter Eggs in the Easter egg hunt? Do you think there is some prize, some Trophy or Award?
For God sakes, no one thinks like that! He didn't take credit for something because there is no credit to be taken. It was the 4th or 5th day of an absoluetly exhausting search that by that time we all realized would be for a body not a living boy.
There was no credit to be taken, there was only sadness and sorrow among all of us. It was a terrible tragedy and we all wished we would have found him sooner, but we were certainly relieved that we did find him at all.
Nobody won a goddamn prize you idiot.
You are the idiot. Mr Big LE.

“"Johnny Tango "”

Since: Dec 12

Franconia, NH

#984 Mar 26, 2013
FrmLE.....Your agenda is so obvious.

Protect Yourselves

Serve yourselves

“"Johnny Tango "”

Since: Dec 12

Franconia, NH

#985 Mar 26, 2013
It was a prize for Jordan.......whether You like to see it that way or not.

Why did Jordan state "Fingernails were short and clean?" WHY WHY WHY

Jordan can't take back that statement but I bet He wishes He could.
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#986 Mar 26, 2013
Tang Zoi wrote:
You are the idiot. Mr Big LE.
<<golf clap>>

Excellent response, you really told me didn't you.

All those points I made above you really countered well, I now see your argument and you have really made me see your position.
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#987 Mar 26, 2013
Tang Zoi wrote:
FrmLE.....Your agenda is so obvious.
Protect Yourselves
Serve yourselves
Sure man, protect ourselves. Yep, like I said, we all spent 5 days searching day and night for that boy in the rain and cold, then decided to cover up his murder to protect the mccarthy family who we never heard of before. Who weren't from NH, who had no money and no influence whatsoever.

In fact, speaking for myself only, the same mccarthy family that made me sick and I frankly hated.

So, even though I really hated these people, I still put my career, reputation, and freedom at risk to coverup the murder of this young boy to protect those same people. And, everyone else in LE did the same thing as well, as it must be a enormous conspiracy.

Yep, that makes sense! You got me, you are a master investigator.

“"Johnny Tango "”

Since: Dec 12

Franconia, NH

#988 Mar 26, 2013
FrmLE wrote:
<quoted text>
<<golf clap>>
Excellent response, you really told me didn't you.
All those points I made above you really countered well, I now see your argument and you have really made me see your position.
It is just so sad You retired. I am sure You are missed.
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#989 Mar 26, 2013
I ask you about massive Police coverups and murder conspiracies and you reply with clean fingernails.

Explain to me who is involved in this conspiracy?

Why didn't the FBI investigate? They must be in on the fix right?

Why didn't the 'Parents of Murdered Children' support the Mccarthy family? After all, the McCarthy family asked them to review the case right?

Can you tell me why the only people who support the murder theory are those 'fake experts' who are paid to tell the family what they wanted to hear?

Where is the FBI? Where are the independant, unbiased experts?

And here is the Trillion Dollar question...

Why oh why are all those people covering up this boy's murder? What is the motive exactly?
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#990 Mar 26, 2013
Tang Zoi wrote:
It was a prize for Jordan.......whether You like to see it that way or not.
Says you, but where exactly did he make claim to such a prize? Besides in your conspiracy theory of course.

And again, I ask you about conspiracies and coverups and you reply with some completely irrelevant statement that has absoluetly no bearing on the facts. What does it matter what he said or didn't say?

How does that affect this massive conspiracy? How did the FBI become involved in this coverup?

To protect a Fish and Game officer's irrelevant, non factual claim about finding Patric? Really?

“"Johnny Tango "”

Since: Dec 12

Franconia, NH

#991 Mar 26, 2013
Was Patric wearing gloves on the day He SUPPOSEDLY scurried up that mountan.?

Clean clipped fingernails.....I say again.!
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#992 Mar 26, 2013
Tang Zoi wrote:
Was Patric wearing gloves on the day He SUPPOSEDLY scurried up that mountan.?
Clean clipped fingernails.....I say again.!
Yes, I know why you talk about the fingernails again. Because you are a one trick pony, it's really about all the thought you can muster.

So let me respond, once again. Here is the link to the report presented to the McCarthy family by Dr. Bonnell, M.D. of the non profit Organization Parent's of Murdered Children.

http://www.patricmccarthy.org/docs/parentsofm...

In this report, prepared at the request of the McCarthy family pro bono (for free), Dr. Bonnell states:

Dr. Weiner: Dr. Weiner also mistakenly describes the hands and fingernails as “clean”; as described above, photos show this to simply be untrue.

So you see, in the original autopsy there are pictures, and in those pictures are Patric's hands. They are not clean, the fingernails are not 'clipped and clean'.

So why do you continue to focus on this false statement? Because rather than thinking about the facts, and considering the points I made above, it is much easier to call me a jerk and then repeat the same mantras you use in every thread....

'coverup'

'fingernails'

'lies'

and my favorite..

"TRUTH'!!

Because, whatever you propose is the "TRUTH", and whatever anyone proposes that counters your skewed point of view is labeled "LIES" and therefore those people are involved in the "COVERUP".
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#993 Mar 26, 2013
Just a thought I had, I can't help but wonder why the McCarthy family, or even Patric's Mother, haven't sought another second opinion on the autopsy and police report?

It has been years since they sent the report to 'Parents of Murdered Children' in Ohio, and unfortunately for them they did not receieve the answer they were looking for.

So it begs the question, if they still believe Patric was murdered and all of NH and the FBI is involved in the coverup, why don't they seek the opinion of another Expert?

Now when I say 'expert', I mean a unbiased, reputable, credible expert whose opinion carries weight. Not the 'experts' hired by O'Connell to tell the family what they wanted to hear, I mean real 'experts'?

Why hasn't that happened? Where is the hard working T. O'Connell now?

Could it be because HE KNOWS that anyone who is not paid lots of money to say what he wants them to say (IE: LIE) will in fact support the opinion reached by the NHSP, NH Medical Examiner, and the Parent's of Murdered Children?

Is in because at some point the family will realize they paid ALOT of money to be duped and wasted years of life pursuing false theories rather than accepting the awful fact that accidents do happen and sometimes terrible things happen and no one is to blame?

I know this for certain, if I was the Private Investigator working a case that I BELIEVED IN I would have consulted ten independant Organizations by now to have them review the case report.

Why hasn't that happened? Or has it?
FrmLE

Vero Beach, FL

#994 Mar 26, 2013
The worst thing about people who sell their soul for a paycheck is not the money they steal from bereaved victims and grief stricken family members.

That is bad enough, preying on the tragedy of poor families and stealing their money, but you know what is worse than that?

It is the time they steal from their lives. The years and years spent hoping to find someone to pay for their grief when sometimes, no one is blame.

Those years are years stolen, the families never begin the grieving process, they never are able to move on because their energy is spent trying to find an answer that does not exist. Trying to find a culprit to blame for the tragedy, trying to find peace that will not come because the path they are on leads nowhere.

I have seen this before, many times and it breaks my heart. I wish Deanne could find peace, but as long as she continues down the path trying to find the 'true conspiracy' that does not exist, she will never find peace.

I blame those 'experts' who almost certainly know deep down the opinions they give are lies, bought and paid for by the ringleader and biggest phony of them all. All for a few bucks.

People like columbus, or zao ting or whatever he calls himself, are almost as bad but not quite. Because although they didn't take money for their participation they still gladly stand on the sidelines with inaccurate, incomplete information and ZERO EXPERIENCE with which to interpret that facts, cheering on the poor family without concern for the effect it has on them.

Believe me, I know of what I speak.

Sad, pathetic, disgusting, despicable.
Historian

Osterville, MA

#995 Mar 26, 2013
FrmLE wrote:
I ask you about massive Police coverups and murder conspiracies and you reply with clean fingernails.
Explain to me who is involved in this conspiracy?
Why didn't the FBI investigate? They must be in on the fix right?
Why didn't the 'Parents of Murdered Children' support the Mccarthy family? After all, the McCarthy family asked them to review the case right?
Can you tell me why the only people who support the murder theory are those 'fake experts' who are paid to tell the family what they wanted to hear?
Where is the FBI? Where are the independant, unbiased experts?
And here is the Trillion Dollar question...
Why oh why are all those people covering up this boy's murder? What is the motive exactly?
FBI never investigated anything. FBI took a back seat to Sgt. West, who from the beginning withheld evidance in patric's case. Any time you would like to see the e-mails from the FBI to NH, I would be glad to share them with you. Was told by West NH no longer wanted them involved and the FBI backed off.
deanne murray

Wareham, MA

#996 Mar 26, 2013
FrmLE wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure man, protect ourselves. Yep, like I said, we all spent 5 days searching day and night for that boy in the rain and cold, then decided to cover up his murder to protect the mccarthy family who we never heard of before. Who weren't from NH, who had no money and no influence whatsoever.
In fact, speaking for myself only, the same mccarthy family that made me sick and I frankly hated.
So, even though I really hated these people, I still put my career, reputation, and freedom at risk to coverup the murder of this young boy to protect those same people. And, everyone else in LE did the same thing as well, as it must be a enormous conspiracy.
Yep, that makes sense! You got me, you are a master investigator.
--- Why do u hate the McCarthy Family ???

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