Response Time for Ambulance

Response Time for Ambulance

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Heather

Rochester, NY

#1 Aug 10, 2008
I assisted an elderly woman who fell at the entrance of a restaurant in Lima. I was shocked that it took nearly TWENTY minutes for an ambulance to arrive. This woman had large bleeding wounds on her head and a possible neck injury! The ambulance bay is less than a mile away and the fire department 1/4 mile! Absolutely ridiculous and completely unacceptable.
Do The Math

Webster, NY

#2 Aug 10, 2008
How far away were the volunteers at the time the call came in? Perhaps you would like to have a paid team on duty? Two EMT's - that would be two more salaries on the village payroll - that would spell tax hike. Oh not to mention a 5 or 6 person fire crew.

I have a great idea Heather you get you EMT, join the ambulance and help fix the problem rather than whine, moan and complain!
Heather

Rochester, NY

#3 Aug 10, 2008
I stopped a woman from bleeding and kept her stable while taking her vitals! That's whining and complaining? Are you out of your mind? She could have DIED! Perhaps you'd feel differently if it was YOUR mother? How about your kid? TWENTY MINUTES is UNACCEPTABLE ANYWHERE. The fact that you defend the situation with excuses and then lay down a personal attack on the person who helped in the situation speaks to your character and mental health. You are a fantastic example of what makes Lima so great!
paid Ambulance

Rochester, NY

#4 Aug 10, 2008
in Mount Morris the Ambulance is paid, but how they it paid is by the call 25 dollar for driver, 40 dollar for EMT, Mount Morris bill the insurance company directly,
Do The Math

Webster, NY

#5 Aug 10, 2008
It is awesome you saved 1 person. What about the hundreds of people over the years the the ambulance has helped? Do you see them wanting a pat on the back? No. You are the one that has come here wanting a pat on the back and that speaks to your character. You are a fantastic example of what is killing Lima!

You see its not about you and your good deed, it is about your bad attitude. I will expand my challenge to you from earlier go and get your EMT and join the ambulance or get your basic firefighter and join the fire department.

Be a part of the solution rather than part of the problem.

Since: Apr 08

Dothan, AL

#6 Aug 10, 2008
Heather wrote:
I stopped a woman from bleeding and kept her stable while taking her vitals! That's whining and complaining? Are you out of your mind? She could have DIED! Perhaps you'd feel differently if it was YOUR mother? How about your kid? TWENTY MINUTES is UNACCEPTABLE ANYWHERE. The fact that you defend the situation with excuses and then lay down a personal attack on the person who helped in the situation speaks to your character and mental health. You are a fantastic example of what makes Lima so great!
Good job Heather! And to "Do the Math", I hope you're just speaking out the wrong end of your anatomy and not as an EMS insider. The only positive info in your post was your suggestion that Heather pursue EMT certification. Heather, it sounds like you already have health care skills and the ability to deal with emergencies. Your local EMS could use your help. 20 minute response time in a volunteer system is long, but not unusual. My community is served by a volunteer ambulance corps based 10 miles away. We in the volunteer fire department are dispatched concurrent with EMS to provide immediate first responder care, as you did in this incident. Does Lima not dispatch its fire department first responders with EMS?
Heather

Rochester, NY

#7 Aug 10, 2008
You don't know me at ALL! I have been a nurse for 12 years! I volunteer in my communities and work in social services now in addition to advocacy care. I often work 90 hour weeks. Don't lecture ME- my entire LIFE has been about helping people. VERY few people can say that. If I was looking for a pat on the back I would perhaps be using my actual name? You sir, need to get a life.
Allen

Syracuse, NY

#8 Aug 12, 2008
I'm with do the math on this one.
You go on to say don't lecture you, but you take the time to lecture the lack of time the Ambulance took, as lecturing in this regard is complaining. I ask as a Nurse, and knowing the slow response, maybe just maybe it is for the lack of Volunteers or the need of more so the services can be expanded, So go and volunteer because if you were on duty, you would have been there in 5 minutes I bet. So stop lecturing others and do something constructive about it!
Editor

Rochester, NY

#9 Aug 16, 2008
Allen and Do the Math are the same person.
Image

Mount Vernon, OH

#10 Aug 20, 2008
I lived in the area years ago. Is Lima still ALL Volunteer?

Since: Oct 07

Webster, NY

#11 Aug 20, 2008
Yes the Lima Ambulance is all volunteer. And could use more.
Image

Mount Victory, OH

#12 Aug 20, 2008
My husband was a member of the HFFD and Ambulance in the 1970's.
Where we live now the services are paid by our City Taxes.
I miss those Volunteer calls.
Don

Monroe, NY

#13 Aug 22, 2008
Heather, I'm sorry that you had to experience a 20 minute response time, but I'd like you to consider the situation. Lima is a small town, with very few options open to them besides an all volunteer basic life support ambulance. It is hard to find volunteers to staff an ambulance, especially during the day. There isn't enough call volume for volunteers to be willing to restrict themselves to within a few miles of the ambulance bay at all times, that's a lot of commitment, and especially if it's the second call in a district. Further, consider the time commitment: Round numbers, 10 minute response time, 15 minutes on scene, 30 minutes to SMH, 20 minutes to transfer a patient, 30 minutes returning to quarters, and paperwork. Every volunteer response is over an hour and 45 minutes to dedicate themselves to. I'm glad that you volunteer in your community, and I wish that it was possible for Lima, as well as other communities in the Livingston County area to provide a faster response, but unless someone can find a better solution it will remain this way. HOWEVER, you have absolutely no right to be blaming the volunteer ambulance corps. I'm sure your mother taught you 'beggars can't be choosers'. Unless it's a paid ambulance, you take what you can get.
Allen

Syracuse, NY

#14 Aug 22, 2008
And I bet there was a Shooter on the Grassy Knoll also. I am no one other than myself and go by No Other name than My real first name. So go get your meds for Paranoia and take them please!
Editor wrote:
Allen and Do the Math are the same person.
A Lima EMT

Penfield, NY

#15 Aug 29, 2008
When there is an emergency and you are waiting for medics or firemen, time seems to crawl. I have no doubt that Heather thought it was taking forever for help to arrive. Here are the facts of this call according to 911 records. This happened on August 7, 2008. 911 dispatched Lima Ambulance at 9:34 AM. At 9:38 AM the medics were leaving the ambulance base, which is not located at the firehouse near the 4 corners in town. At 9:40 the ambulance and medics arrived at the scene. The ambulance arrived on the scene 6 minutes after receiving the call from 911 dispatch. Not 20 minutes as stated by Heather.

Lima Ambulance volunteers take their responsibilities very seriously and are proud of their record and hate to see inaccurate information like this tarnish their record.

Heather should be commended for taking the time to help someone in need. I am sure the injured lady is very appreciative, as is Lima Ambulance, for helping a person in need until help arrived.
A Lima EMT

Penfield, NY

#16 Aug 29, 2008
I just noticed the post says I am from Honeoye Falls. I assure you that I am a resident of Lima.
Allen

Syracuse, NY

#17 Aug 29, 2008
I would say, if Heather has the medical background and feels there is a response problem, maybe you should encourage her to volunteer because good people are always needed...
A Lima EMT wrote:
I just noticed the post says I am from Honeoye Falls. I assure you that I am a resident of Lima.

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