Kauai plan would revise property tax

Kauai plan would revise property tax

There are 20 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from May 31, 2008, titled Kauai plan would revise property tax. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

LIHUE Kauai Mayor Bryan Baptiste announced yesterday a proposal to change the real property tax rates so that resident homeowners would benefit at the expense of resorts and vacation rentals.

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Van Nuys, CA

#2 May 31, 2008
Kalli is right and is this a good time to raise taxes on Resorts?...do they think that will help tourism? Let's not run off the "golden goose", our visitors.

Kailua Kona, HI

#3 May 31, 2008
Finally The Mayor is doing something!I hope the Council will help the average person on Kauai and Approve this measure.
What About Renters

Hilo, HI

#4 May 31, 2008
Many people are renters. Although I don't know the numbers for Kaua`i, here on O`ahu, the number is about 45%.

We're talking long-time residents here, not visitors. If the tax breaks are only for homeowners, then what about the others?

For example, our homeowning neighbors pay way less in property taxes than our landlord does for a house which is assessed at the same value.

Furthermore, not only does he get to deduct the taxes assessed to the property from his income tax but also he passes the tax assessment along to us in the form of rent increases which he's done five times in the past ten years.

When we tried to get the Honolulu City Council to consider renter-residents as well as homeowners, most Councilmembers agreed in principle, but they said that it would cause a loss of revenue to the City and would require more people to work for the City.

As for Kaua`i, I'd like to see the figures beforehand. Furthermore, I urge that the County Council as well as the Mayor not forget the island's renters.

Napa, CA

#5 May 31, 2008
the county is just gonna find a way to rake the people over the tax coals as usual. Anybody really believe that the tax guys are gonna help the people?? they're there to perpetuate the countys revenue. As in Period;end of story.


#6 Jun 2, 2008
Holly Cow! We presently pay $7,000 per year, to triple our property taxes would make it $21,000 per year. We can't afford this! Our property is not a multi-million dollar property either, we paid $975,000 for it. Because of our vacation rental, we feel we are alreay helping the economy in Kauai. We pay GET and TAT for every rental adn we bring tourism to the island which supports all the local businesses. To raise the taxes would force us to raise the rates. The economy is already sluggish, this would be the silver bullet which ends it for most.
This plan is insane and unfair.
Please help stop it before owners loose their second homes and have to foreclose due to excessively high property taxes.

Monroe, MI

#7 Jun 4, 2008
why did you not post my comments from yesterday???
Pat McCarthy

Kirkland, WA

#8 Jun 4, 2008
As a fee simple time share owner, why can't I get the same treatment as any other homeowner on Kauai? I don't rent out my unit, and already am paying the nightly tax, which no other homeowner pays. Please do not discriminate against part time residents. The transient renters should be treated differently from owners.

Morgan Hill, CA

#9 Jun 4, 2008
If this plan passes it is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back! Tourists are already nickel and dimed to death by Kauai's Draconian taxes. As a timeshare owner we not only pay the property tax and a host of other taxes but a nightly TAT as if we were a Hotel guest. You think the drop in tourism is bad now because of the high cost of airfare wait until you raise property taxes which will increase the cost of a rental or a hotel room. Those of us in California will switch to Mexico where we are appreciated and not taxed to death! This proposal sounds like something from a socialist government from an Island in another part of the world not the United States! Adios Kauai!!
Sleepless In Kauai

Oakland, CA

#10 Jun 5, 2008
While Mayor Baptiste may have good intentions for the local community this 2004 proposal being resurrected will likely devastate the local economy. If every mom and pop owner of a single rental unit were hit with a triple tax increase you can bet properties will be for sale, forclosures will explode and the HI. banks will have a fantastic inventory to bundle and sell to big developers and hoteliers that have deep pockets, fancy lawyers and no moral compass.
But before the big guys come into buy it all up- local business will suffer, your umployment will be the highest in the nation and then crime becomes the way one obtains income to pay those lower taxes.
John and Evelyn-OlneyMD

Silver Spring, MD

#11 Jul 4, 2008
I have a feeling that this issue wasn't thought through well enough. We can see a disaster coming at the expense of everyone. Time share owners maintenance fees increase, affordability goes down, increase to owners, significant decrease in tourist trade and reduced state income from taxes, more burden on homeownes due to lack of state funds. I could go on. Moreover, don't timeshare owners get a vote on this as do the island home owners? That went out with the Boston Tea Party of the 1700's. Who is the Mayor trying to please? Property owners? Certainly not the tourists which one of the islands mainstay for income.
California Single Mom

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Jul 17, 2008
I just purchased my T/S in Kauai in 2006 with a lot of sacrafice and hard work. This measure would break me and I would have to sell.
Linda Gemoets

Hillsboro, OH

#13 Jul 18, 2008
Kauai is going to see a decrease in tourism and a decrease in income if these fees are imposed on timeshare owners. Time share owners return year after year and are major source of income to Kauai. You are biting the hand that feeds you.
John Jorgenson

Seattle, WA

#14 Jul 18, 2008
If I were a full time resident and didn't have to work this proposal would sound great. After a few years we'd see Costco, Wal Mart, K-Mart and the likes pull up stakes and before long the place would be back to the way it was when they became a state. If that's what you want ... go for it! The timeshare an resort visitor will find another paradise.
anthony doyon

South Windsor, CT

#15 Jul 20, 2008
The impact of the proposed action will result in a reduction of recreational dollars being spend on Kauai. Since tourism is a core element of Kauai's economy, this is a profoundly short sighted approach. The current economic and gas crisis require inspired solutions...biting the hand that feeds is not inspired. Go back to the drawing boards and find a more effective solution to the very real problems faced by the residents (permanent and part-time) of Kauai.

Corvallis, OR

#16 Jul 20, 2008
kauai is going to price itself out of the americian tourist market.I have owned a timeshare for 23 years on kauai.We are selling out due to lack of owner usage ,high labor costs,high utility costs high insurance costs, and high taxes.It is much cheaper in mexico.Ino longer come to kauai, and beleive this measure will caude a significant decrease in tourism
Sharon Izzi

Mililani, HI

#17 Feb 22, 2009
I agree with Mr. Knutzen . This topic needs further discussion.
Sharon Izzi

Mililani, HI

#18 Feb 22, 2009
Because the financial situation is as it is at the present time in this country of the USA it is making it even more difficult for people who want to purchase homes in the islands due to reasonable conditions
Sharon Izzi

Honolulu, HI

#19 Feb 22, 2009
Kauai Country is a total mess.
Bill tyler

Beachwood, OH

#20 Jul 29, 2009
As a potential owner of a condo in Kauai and a twice a year visitor to the island, this would destroy even further, the tourism in teh state. If you want you property values to Plummet like they have in California and Phoenix(40-60% in a year), you're going tog et it with this kind of legislation.

Carlsbad, CA

#21 Aug 12, 2009
think first at the fallout this will have on the rental market and the domino effect in all local economies from the tourists who wont bear the additional costs owners will have to pass along.its the tot that floats government,the county better plan on a huge loss of revinue,property sales,and drops in tourism...do the right thing.leave it alone like in 2004.

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