Letters to the Editor - Letters

Letters to the Editor - Letters

There are 22 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Mar 1, 2009, titled Letters to the Editor - Letters. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

We are all saddened by the 17 fatal tragic accidents on Oahu in less than two months this year.

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Big J-Hawaii Kai

United States

#1 Mar 1, 2009
Ref Charles Stennes ltr "Let youth learn from accident scenes." Several Mainland states have instituted a program that seems to be working. If a person is convicted of speeding over 20 mph, racing, causing an accident, part of the sentence is giving them community service in a hospital emergency room, not picking up litter in the parks, etc. Let them see first hand the results of what the careless can and do cause.
Big J-Hawaii Kai

United States

#2 Mar 1, 2009
In ref: Mel Rapozo's ltr: "Tourism agency wrong to spurn Pro Bowl offer." Mel you make some good points. Let's examine some of the ones you made. 1. and 2. "Taking away our only opportunity to watch professional football in Hawaii, and for our kids to meet professional football players; and taking away our children's opportunity to watch and learn from professional athletes who promote education and drug-free lifestyles" True, it is the only venue to watch professional football in Hawaii. Insofar as kids meeting professional football players. Are these the same professionals that get caught using drugs, arrested for assault and rape, running illegal games, i.e., dog fighting, etc. Quite the role model for our youth. 3. "taking away the numerous youth camps, put on by the Pro Bowl athletes, from our children throughout the state." Perhaps you and other parents should be placing more emphasis on education rather than sports. 4. " Taking away 24,230 visitors to Hawaii and $28.6 million in spending." Mel, the taxpayers of this State paid the NFL $4 million dollars to get the Pro Bowl in Hawaii. The taxpayers earned $2 million in taxes collected. Seems to me that leaves some "red" ink in the old ledger. The $28.6 million you speak of goes mainly to those companies on the Mainland that own the hotels and restaurants.
I would have rather the State spend that $4 million on school maintenance, social programs, health care for children who are uninsured.
dargent77

Nashville, TN

#3 Mar 1, 2009
What? Take a "field trip" to an accident scene to instill responsible behavior? Nuts!
The driver was 30 years old, had 6 speeding tickets in a 5 year span.
Had a BAC 3x the limit...what else do you need?
The photo of the mangled wreakage was enough. Studends don't have to view it first hand.
Big J-Hawaii Kai

United States

#4 Mar 1, 2009
Ref Kenneth Stewart's ltr, "Democrats' tactics scare away visitors." I especiallly liked that part, "Congress intimidating banks and other corporations for spending money in a way that Congress doesn't approve of." Tell you what Ken, I don't approve the the way that banks and other corporations spent the first half of the bailout. One company ordered a new corporate jet after receiving their bailout. AIG hosted a week-end retreat for corporate executives in California at a cost of thousands of dollars after receiving their bailout. Two banks, after receiving their bailout, paid out $2.1 BILLOON, that's billion dollars in bonuses to those same executives that ran those businesses in the ground. When those executives were asked by Congress, "where's the beef" or where did the money go, the banks refused to answer. The Treasury was asked 33 questions by Congress. They answered only 13 of the original 33. As for me, I want to know!
The Problem

Kaneohe, HI

#5 Mar 1, 2009
Hesh Goldstein's letter hit the nail on the head: we do think we know better than God! And in doing so we have set ourselves up as God. Yet look where that has gotten us. We're going to hec in a hand-basket the further we drift from the basic Christian principles upon which America was founded.

The proof is in the pudding - our country has not become the utopia it should have become if things like chastity and censorship were the evils we've made them out to be. We're too damn smart for our own good.
Norton

Honolulu, HI

#6 Mar 1, 2009
Hey Leon, just don't forget to feed the state parking meters when you're playing cops n robbers.
long time ago

Wailuku, HI

#7 Mar 1, 2009
I remember when I was in high school in Ohio many years ago they had a class on drinking and driving and they showed us real photos of real wrecks. And they showed the bodies, the carnage, the result, they did not cover it with a sheet. It left a lasting impact on all of us. To see a wrecked car is one thing but to see the results of that wreck is quite another. Also we visited a junk yard to see wrecked cars. Some schools even take students to the morgue. If all that would save just one life it would be worth it.
Stoopid

Kailua, HI

#8 Mar 1, 2009
The Problem wrote:
Hesh Goldstein's letter hit the nail on the head: we do think we know better than God! And in doing so we have set ourselves up as God. Yet look where that has gotten us. We're going to hec in a hand-basket the further we drift from the basic Christian principles upon which America was founded.
The proof is in the pudding - our country has not become the utopia it should have become if things like chastity and censorship were the evils we've made them out to be. We're too damn smart for our own good.
It's Bush's fault. We'll be paying for his stupidity for years. Bosh thought he was god, above all the laws of our land. Let's hope he ends up in hec. As for preaching about your man made god, please, let us use rational thought. People use god when it's convenient for them. Else, they live lives of quiet depseration.
dargent77

Nashville, TN

#9 Mar 1, 2009
long time ago wrote:
I remember when I was in high school in Ohio many years ago they had a class on drinking and driving and they showed us real photos of real wrecks. And they showed the bodies, the carnage, the result, they did not cover it with a sheet. It left a lasting impact on all of us. To see a wrecked car is one thing but to see the results of that wreck is quite another. Also we visited a junk yard to see wrecked cars. Some schools even take students to the morgue. If all that would save just one life it would be worth it.
One idiot wants to go on "field trips" to the accident scenes and this moron wants to go on to the morgue? Who has the time for all this? People, young and old, will get drunk and drive. It's a fact. Nothing, I repeat nothing, will alter that reality.
kalapaki

Honolulu, HI

#10 Mar 1, 2009
Stoopid wrote:
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It's Bush's fault. We'll be paying for his stupidity for years. Bosh thought he was god, above all the laws of our land. Let's hope he ends up in hec. As for preaching about your man made god, please, let us use rational thought. People use god when it's convenient for them. Else, they live lives of quiet depseration.
I can see it now: late 2011, Obama vs. Palin and Obama telling his dwindling throngs that "we need four more years to fight the Bush legacy." Hey Stoopid, what happened to "moving on" with you liberals? When do you finally stop blaming everyone and start doing something?
alice

Honolulu, HI

#11 Mar 1, 2009
we are all proud of our Obama

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#12 Mar 1, 2009
The Problem wrote:
Hesh Goldstein's letter hit the nail on the head: we do think we know better than God! And in doing so we have set ourselves up as God. Yet look where that has gotten us. We're going to hec in a hand-basket the further we drift from the basic Christian principles upon which America was founded.
The proof is in the pudding - our country has not become the utopia it should have become if things like chastity and censorship were the evils we've made them out to be. We're too damn smart for our own good.
I would say to Mr. Goldstein that if there is a god, and if god knows best, then he, she or it can deal with administering penalties on his, her or its own time.

The Puritans did not believe in chastity, by the way. They were quite randy. And the founders -- most of them -- were not Christians in the sense that we hold nowadays.

And you might note that we have lots of different beliefs here.
Pat

Kaunakakai, HI

#13 Mar 1, 2009
Hesh Goldstein, we are all made in God's image, aren't we? God has given us free choice in our life styles. I would think that God would want us all to be treated equally in all matters.Civil Unions does not harm anyone.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#14 Mar 1, 2009
Pat is right..people who claim to speak for God are dangerously deluded. Catholic priests with their cute boys locked in closets are especially irritating as are poorly educated evangelical "preachers" witrh their financial scandals and simplfied understanding of a complex Bible.
dargent77

United States

#15 Mar 1, 2009
Idiots will drink no matter how much anyone screams and pounds it into them not to. I confess I used to drink and drive, and believe you me, I was very idiotic myself for doing so. Even after being pulled over once by a state trooper, and luckily passing the "follow my finger" test, I didn't realize how ignorant I was.

How many times will it take for these people to realize that one accident will change your life.
Leilani

Honolulu, HI

#16 Mar 1, 2009
dargent77 wrote:
Idiots will drink no matter how much anyone screams and pounds it into them not to. I confess I used to drink and drive, and believe you me, I was very idiotic myself for doing so. Even after being pulled over once by a state trooper, and luckily passing the "follow my finger" test, I didn't realize how ignorant I was.
How many times will it take for these people to realize that one accident will change your life.
Perhaps a painful alternative for drunk drivers which would make them sit up and pay attention would be the following:

The first time a person is caught driving drunk (proven by the on-the-road breathalyzer test), their car should be immediately confiscated from them and sold to a dealer, with the proceeds going to the motor vehicle department for driver education programs if nobody was injured or to the victims and their families if someone was injured. They would also lose their license for a minimum of 5 years. Since family members of the driver might also be seriously inconvenienced by the loss of the car, there would probably be a great deal of pressure from them on the driver to clean up their act.

The owner of the car would continue to be responsible for paying their car payments if it was not fully paid for; there would be no reimbursement to them for the loss of their car, so there would also be financial hardship associated with drunk driving. Additionally, a note should be put on their credit record about this, so that lenders would not be willing to loan them money to buy a new car.

If they need to go somewhere--to work, to the store, to the movies, and so on--they can take the bus, walk, take a taxi, catch a ride with friends, or ride a bike. This will prevent them from injuring or killing anyone else if they get drunk again.

If they are caught driving without a license during the 5-year period, they would be sent to prison for the remainder of the 5-year license suspension.

Afterwards, if they get a car, they would be issued license plates that state they are a drunk driver, which would give other drivers at least a little warning that they should stay as far away as possible from this driver.

This probably wouldn't stop everyone from driving drunk, but I'm pretty sure it would put a rather large dent in the number of drunk drivers on the road.
Cisco

Stuart, FL

#17 Mar 1, 2009
If there is a god I hope he or she is bigger than one religion
Kauakea

Franklin Park, IL

#18 Mar 1, 2009
long time ago wrote:
I remember when I was in high school in Ohio many years ago they had a class on drinking and driving and they showed us real photos of real wrecks. And they showed the bodies, the carnage, the result, they did not cover it with a sheet. It left a lasting impact on all of us. To see a wrecked car is one thing but to see the results of that wreck is quite another. Also we visited a junk yard to see wrecked cars. Some schools even take students to the morgue. If all that would save just one life it would be worth it.
As you say, that was years ago. Given parents today, I can't wait for the first one to sue saying that "irreparable harm" had occurred to the mind of their little angel who had viewed such horrific pictures or who had been made to see such sights. You know it would happen.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#19 Mar 1, 2009
let the bill pass...it does not threaten any "straight" couple.
djs

Kailua, HI

#20 Mar 1, 2009
long time ago wrote:
I remember when I was in high school in Ohio many years ago they had a class on drinking and driving and they showed us real photos of real wrecks. And they showed the bodies, the carnage, the result, they did not cover it with a sheet. It left a lasting impact on all of us. To see a wrecked car is one thing but to see the results of that wreck is quite another. Also we visited a junk yard to see wrecked cars. Some schools even take students to the morgue. If all that would save just one life it would be worth it.
New York State required attending a 3 hour class if you couldn't get into your school's driver's ed program. The class included watching actual unedited police films of accident scenes which showed the carnage first hand - charred remains, decapitated body parts, pools of blood, grieving survivors and family members. Some attendees couldn't handle but this is the Real World and not some video game.

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