Jeff Wolski

Goodland, KS

#81 Feb 18, 2011
question wrote:
<quoted text>
Who owns the church now?
H2O Church.tv, like many churches, is a non-profit corporation. It is gnot owned by any people, but overseen by a board of trustees. The dozen or so H2O Church.tv campuses across 5 states have local leadership who are all lead by the lead pastor stationed in Oklahoma.

I hope this helps to answer your question.
H2O Member

United States

#82 Feb 18, 2011
Tony is not in jail.

We have a group of wonderful leaders at our church.
Tony was not the owner, he was a campus pastor and recently stepped down and others are stepping up to take over that position for now. God Bless!
Alice

United States

#83 Feb 18, 2011
Evil prevailed in this H20 Church. How sad. The leaders of this Church have failed there congregation. They placed a man in a position to hurt innocent children. Did they even check? Did they even care??? Please lock the doors and pray the membership can find healing, forgiveness, and strength.
H2O Ex-Member

United States

#84 Feb 18, 2011
News said he is in jail.

What were the charges??
Amy

United States

#85 Feb 18, 2011
Wasn't Tony Newton fired from his previous Church?
Much Deeper than that

United States

#86 Feb 18, 2011
baptist wrote:
<quoted text>But who was Acts 2:38 for? Scripture is plain that the apostles were to teach and preach to the Jewish people. Paul was to go to the Gentiles. We can find differences in the two different programs. Baptism is important, but it is not necessary to be saved as Paul preached.
Acts 2:36,37
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly (this is all twelve tribes that are represented here, and God knows who they are), that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ." Peter is accusing these Jews of killing Christ their Messiah. "Now when they heard this they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren what shall we do?" Before we see Peters answer, lets look at Paul's answer.
In Chapter 16, Paul has begun his missionary journey throughout western Turkey. Earlier in this chapter the Holy Spirit directed him over into Greece. One of the first cities he approached there was Philippi. And that is where he met Lydia, who was the first European convert. After the conversion of Lydia, he is arrested and beaten along with Silas, and cast into the lower dungeon of the jail, as in verse 25. The setting is completely different than in Acts 2. This is all Gentile ground, a Gentile prison, a Gentile jailer, This Gentile jailer may have witnessed Paul and Silas preaching, and saw their arrest and beating. Now he was given charge over these two men along with the rest of the prisoners.

Unbelievable, that you would ignore the scripture but yet quote it. They asked Peter "What must we do to be saved!!!!" then Peter said repent and be baptized in Jesus' Name." where there do you draw that Baptism isn't essential. Peter said to be saved you must do this Acts 2:38.
Someone Who Cares

United States

#87 Feb 18, 2011
This is only rumors and allegations.

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

Matthew 7:1-2
Someone who knows

Tullahoma, TN

#88 Feb 19, 2011
Someone Who Cares wrote:
This is only rumors and allegations.
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
Matthew 7:1-2
These are most certainly not rumors or allegations. I will not place judgement on your church or your beliefs and I don't believe anyone that is associated with it would allow such behavior to go on if they had known about it. However Tony was formally charged with Aggravated Statutory Rape and no matter what you believe religion wise I would think it's fair to say that all religions would look down on such behavior. Not saying that the church or any member of it is to blame but if you have the calling to preach the word of god then you also have an obligation to speak the the truth. This is not the first person belonging to a church that has been charged with such behavior and it certainly will not be the last but it troubles me that you quote so much out of the bible however dodge questions people are asking you. God provided you a building to speak his word and that is wonderful but he did not provide you a building to justify, make excuses, or lie about what one of your members did and tell people they are false allegations. It's wrong and he needs help and if anyone who attends your church or any other church believes that what he has done is ok then you should be praying more for yourself instead of others.
Baptist

Lexington, TN

#89 Feb 19, 2011
Much Deeper than that wrote:
<quoted text>
Unbelievable, that you would ignore the scripture but yet quote it. They asked Peter "What must we do to be saved!!!!" then Peter said repent and be baptized in Jesus' Name." where there do you draw that Baptism isn't essential. Peter said to be saved you must do this Acts 2:38.
Sorry brother, but you are ignoring the scripture. Please read all of my comment, rightly divide the scripture, and you will see that Peter was talking to the jewish people, not gentiles. Paul was talking to the gentiles. One question: Why didnt Paul preach baptism for salvation? God Bless You!
Not important

Jackson, TN

#90 Feb 19, 2011
Church said they did extensive background check, I don't think so. It obviously was just a criminal background check and not a character check. If there had been one completed with his family members, friends, past family members, friends, and co-workers this man would not have been leading this church. Unbelievable that a organization would put someone in charge of a congregation which is geared towards children and young adults without knowing what kind of person they are hiring. SHAMEFUL!!!!

I KNOW I WOULD NEVER TAKE MY DAUGHTERS TO A CHURCH THAT IS SO NEGILENT IN HIRING SOMEONE TO TEACH AND LEAD OUR CHILDREN.

Hopefully parents will think twice before letting their children be harmed by an organization that is so careless in selecting their leaders. I'm sure there is some kind of quota that the corportate office in Oklahoma is trying to obtain.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#91 Feb 19, 2011
It has always amazed me that when someone falters, especially in smaller communities, bad news travels like wildfire. I do hope all that speak of God's word & the Bible here do understand that God doesn't measure sin. So when the gossip hounds start sticking knives in backs; laying out scripture, and comparing your churches against one another, you might wanna take a good hard look around your own congregations, the seats are running over with hipocrites in most of them. We all fail and sin daily. Most just think they're above reproach. Remember the "splinter in your own eye?" I have personally known Tony for many years and am shocked at this myself. I'm not saying anything other than that. When the time is right, we'll all have answers, but until that time; there is alot of pain left to find healing: his family for starters, a minor that remains nameless right now, and a church congregation. Let God sort it out. He's big enough and He can handle it. Somewhere we all have to have enough faith to rely on others for something, a pharmacist to give you the right meds, a chair to hold us up, a car to get us from point A to point B. There are NO perfect churches or perfect congregations - you gotta have faith.
Not Important

Jackson, TN

#92 Feb 19, 2011
News travels like wildfire when children are raped or sexually assaulted, has nothing to do with a small town. You can't assume that everyone on here is speaking with no knowledge either or that we don't know Tony. However, I will not defend him nor will I defend people who are defending him. What he did was disgusting! I will not sit by silently as people defend him or try to provide excuses for his actions. But, as people continue throwing scripture on this site to drown out questions regarding H2O or Tony I will continue to defend the children.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#93 Feb 19, 2011
Not Important wrote:
News travels like wildfire when children are raped or sexually assaulted, has nothing to do with a small town. You can't assume that everyone on here is speaking with no knowledge either or that we don't know Tony. However, I will not defend him nor will I defend people who are defending him. What he did was disgusting! I will not sit by silently as people defend him or try to provide excuses for his actions. But, as people continue throwing scripture on this site to drown out questions regarding H2O or Tony I will continue to defend the children.
Yes, it happens everywhere, but it just gets around quicker because of the community being smaller. The word that you used "did" is just exactly what I was leaning towards. People in small towns (once it hits the news) already has him or whoever found guilty. There is absolutely no more precious item to me as our young ones or our elderly. If you will re-read what I stated, I'm NOT defending. NOR am I condemning him either. That's not ours to do. We must protect and teach our young. We have all been called to war in regard to "good vs. evil". When I approach a skunk in the road, I have thus just "judged" that skunk. I do the same with a rattlesnake. So yes, I know I will be looked @ by God in the same manner. In today's time, we must do some kind of "judging." That doesn't mean condemning. You already have a rock in your hand to throw. Let all the facts be presented. Let the church heal. Lord knows there are preachers and staff in many churches all around that possibly cover the blood on their own hands, but just haven't gotten caught yet. The church responded to rectify their problem. Too little too late? it would appear so, but they acted. Chin up
Jeff Wolski

Goodland, KS

#94 Feb 19, 2011
Defending children is obviously one of the absolute most important things that a church needs to do. However, fabricating accusations about the remaining leaders or the screening process does not protect children or anyone else. It hurts the people who are still there trying to pick up the pieces.

It's easy to be anonymous and holler about what you think is "obvious" even when you don't have first-hand knowledge about what you're accusing. Its easy to throw insults at people you don't know and accuse them of being negligent without putting effort into gathering facts. It's harder to figure out how best to help the people who need it. It's harder still to peer into someone's mind and discover something that they aggressively hide from their friends, family and coworkers.

We all have a choice. We can try to hurt people by making blind assertions about the past, or we can try to make things better by making informed suggestions about the future. I'm interested in hearing ways to help people and constructive ideas to make things better.
Ruth

United States

#95 Feb 19, 2011
He confessed to these accusations! So, please, noone is falsely accusing anyone. Someone hired him, someone fired him. Guess those who defend him, this church, these leaders, don't have any daughters who are hurt by this man. Judgmental, don't think so. Outraged, you bet. Who will pay for the years of therapy these children might need to overcome the hurt. How many children will this be? Protect the children, not the pervert.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#96 Feb 19, 2011
Jeff Wolski wrote:
Defending children is obviously one of the absolute most important things that a church needs to do. However, fabricating accusations about the remaining leaders or the screening process does not protect children or anyone else. It hurts the people who are still there trying to pick up the pieces.
It's easy to be anonymous and holler about what you think is "obvious" even when you don't have first-hand knowledge about what you're accusing. Its easy to throw insults at people you don't know and accuse them of being negligent without putting effort into gathering facts. It's harder to figure out how best to help the people who need it. It's harder still to peer into someone's mind and discover something that they aggressively hide from their friends, family and coworkers.
We all have a choice. We can try to hurt people by making blind assertions about the past, or we can try to make things better by making informed suggestions about the future. I'm interested in hearing ways to help people and constructive ideas to make things better.
I can tell you are a part of the H2O division. Press forward brother. I was part of his past one. Loved him to death, but just like him, we all have faults. I'm sorry that such a young person + the church has to go thru something this devastating. Brush yourselves off and let God sort it out. We just have to do the best we can with what we have to work with at the time. Prayers to his family and ALL of those harmed by not just poor choices, but being prepared to dodge the rock throwers as well.
not so nice

Jackson, TN

#97 Feb 19, 2011
anytime you leave a child anywhere you never know what will happen if you are not there.no matter who you trust or belive to be above reproach. this is not the only church this has happened in.the church is not to blame for this one person's actions.there is not any denomination this has not happened.not taking up for any one.feel very sorry for the child and everyone who suffers in this.am not a member of this church just use good judgement and don't blame everyone. that is just so easy to do.
hate to see people arguing over scriptures they quote.that's where politics and religion are so alike.everyone is right
randall

Batesburg, SC

#98 Feb 19, 2011
I know Tony, and I know that for him to do something like this, the girl must have seduced him. Men are only so strong. Don't place all the blame on him. It takes two to tango. He is a gentleman and would never force himself on any girl or woman.
Ruth

United States

#99 Feb 19, 2011
not so nice....you're an idiot. One would think you could take your child to church and be assured they were not raped, molested, or physically or mentally abused in anyway. Stop making excuses.
This person is sick and the Church leaders failed to adopt policies and procedures to ensure the safety of their Children. Yes, it has happened in other places, that's why most churches, schools, and other organizations that deal with children make sure no compromising situations exist. I'm sure you have heard the old saying, "don't put yourself in that situation". Were there warning signs, did people, including his wife turn their heads. This will all come out in the investigation.
Ruth

United States

#100 Feb 19, 2011
Randall, you are an idiot too. This is a child, he is a grown man. A child seduced him. You must be sick too. Do you go to this Church too?

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