Notorious

United States

#83 Oct 15, 2012
Annonymous wrote:
She was the one who stalked him and would go to his house constantly.. Why would she keep visiting him and begging him to get back with her if he abused her?
If you haven't read this whole forum most people that knew her best knew she was socially off. she obviously was very insecure and if you saw her FB pics it would be clear to anyone she was very self conscious of how she looked. Everyone wants what they can't have I guess. all respect
anonymous person

Lexington, KY

#84 Oct 15, 2012
Shayna always wanted to end her realationship with Ryan but because of his depression and threatening to kill himself all the time I think she thought she could stick around and "fix" him. He was crazy and depressed and because of how horrible her father was to her this was the only relationship in her life that I think she somewhat cared about. Too bad both of their lives are lost now.
Annonymous

United States

#85 Oct 15, 2012
anonymous person wrote:
Shayna always wanted to end her realationship with Ryan but because of his depression and threatening to kill himself all the time I think she thought she could stick around and "fix" him. He was crazy and depressed and because of how horrible her father was to her this was the only relationship in her life that I think she somewhat cared about. Too bad both of their lives are lost now.
Not trying to be rude but this is the farthest thing from the truth. He was the one who wanted to end it.. Almost a year ago they broke up and she has been desperate to keep him. He was in love with another girl. She's broken into his house when he has broken up with her. Let's not make this seem like she wasn't a psychopath who is bat-shit crazy
crazier people

Lexington, KY

#86 Oct 15, 2012
anonymous person wrote:
Shayna always knew that she needed to stay away from Ryan. We all told her that but she refused. He had SERIOUS depression and honestly he could of taken her to the shooting range and set her up to kill him. He threatened suicide multiple times to everyone so she might of just gotten so angry she gave him what he wanted.Still though there is no excuse to go to these extremes, and I am praying for her family and his.
How can you possibly have believed this when you typed it? Seriously, this is beyond bizarre. You truly believe he set her up to kill him? That it was a mercy killing of some weird type, she did him a favor? You better do some praying for yourself.
just wondering

Lexington, KY

#87 Oct 15, 2012
i don't know either of these people but it doesn't seem fair for the victim, the accused or either of their families for all of the "gossip" on this site. with an upcoming criminal case and i would guess a strong possibility of a civil case it doesn't seem smart for people to be on here speculating and spreading rumors that may or may not be true.
Talked to Shayna frequent

Lexington, KY

#88 Oct 15, 2012
The people that were close friends (not those that keep saying I used to know or used to go to school with her)...would know that she had updated her facebook recently and in fact on Thursday posted modeling pics of herself from a professional photographer...atleast 50pics wearing different outfits. Then Friday her facebook disappears so either she manually took it down or her family/police/someone else blocked it. I dont believe this was a planned out as some have sketched it to be. I know for a fact that she was supposed to go to a pumpkin patch Saturday with Ryan. She wouldn't tell her close friends and group partners in class that they were going to the pumpkin patch if she was really planning on shooting Ryan. Yes she was smart enough to cover up a murder, but this sounds like an argument gone terribly wrong. If she really wanted Ryan dead she was smart enough to do it without letting his neighbors know especially with all the tv shows like criminal minds. Ryan must have had his gun out in the open and they had a normal fight that escalated too far. A lot of you close friends on here are saying she was crazy, yes but crazy dont kill...something must have got real bad that night for her to shoot him multiple times. Something so bad she knew once it was over she was in jail (since she didnt try to run away or anything else).
crazier people

Lexington, KY

#89 Oct 15, 2012
Stump wrote:
Ryan had appraoched me about a month and a half ago to sell some of his guns. We were gun buddies and friends who debated politics and everything else. Hadn't talked to him in quite a bit though so I was surprised and asked why he wanted to sell his AR amongst some others. He said it was so he could keep being able to take some girl out. The fact that he was sacrificing some of his prized possessions for this piece of garbage makes me sick. Snodgrass or whoever else is in the Campbell County prosecutors office best make sure this psycho gets a needle or a life sentence, or many people will do their best to make sure there are some personel changes in that office. NO PLEA DEALS, nothing.
If in fact he was addicted to opiates, they are very expensive as tolerance builds quickly and most people end up selling off possessions to afford them. In no way defending or excusing her, but I know addicts and they sell things one by one as they need more and more pills - but maybe he was being truthful about why he needed the money. I'm sorry you lost your friend and understand your anger completely.
In Disbelief

United States

#90 Oct 15, 2012
I am in shock at the majority of this thread. Ryan is the victim in this situation. He did not deserve this. Going on the internet to spread rumors about the victim of a murder is gross. Most of the people who say that this girl told them things about their relationship also say that this girl lied and was "off". I cannot understand how so many people can claim she was a liar or a sociopath but then in the same breath put any stock in her words. Everyone that knew this girl in middle school or high school or for a summer will move on in their lives. Maybe think about that girl they knew who shot her boyfriend from time to time, but Ryan's family will think about his death every day. Every Christmas, Thanksgiving and birthday they will remember him. His parents will think about the grandchildren they might have had and his sisters will one day have to explain to their children what happened to uncle Ryan. By implying that he in some way was at fault for this is like putting a rape victim on trial instead of a rapist. No matter what their relationship was like this was not the answer and neither is dragging his name through the mud and making wild accusations when he cannot defend himself because Shayna took that ability away from him.
Notorious

United States

#91 Oct 15, 2012
anonymous person wrote:
Shayna always wanted to end her realationship with Ryan but because of his depression and threatening to kill himself all the time I think she thought she could stick around and "fix" him. He was crazy and depressed and because of how horrible her father was to her this was the only relationship in her life that I think she somewhat cared about. Too bad both of their lives are lost now.
Yeah, did u see this first hand or is it something u heard about from her? She seemed to have a fine relationship with her father from what I saw.. If she wanted to end it so bad I dunno why she was driving to nky every other day to see him. I'd say there's fault on both ends. But she obviously had some serious issues
A friend

Geneve, Switzerland

#92 Oct 15, 2012
Ryan told me he wanted to break up with her a long long time ago. She just couldn't handle him not being her boyfriend.
Anonymous

Lexington, KY

#93 Oct 15, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Okay I have known Shayna since 10th grade when I meet her in she was a zealot Christian damning everyone else. She was very nice though to everyone she talked to. I had two AP classes with her, she was very smart. She was known for radical personality changes. Our senior year she really started to change, she stated to party with me and my friends. She became a heavy drinker and moved on to older friends. I know she atleast experiment with drugs not sure if that play a factor with what happened. Freshman year of college she was kicked out of KD. She couldn't keep friends longer than a year. She was a sweet girl atleast to me but she was a known liar and stole things from friends. She had issues and problems but no one ever thought she would kill someone. I don't know everything that happened in their relationship but from what she always said they were both a little unstable in that relationship. She has been known for dating older men and married/engaged men so I know she had a lot of issues and if he had a few than it was enough to send her over the edge
She was never a KD....
anon

Lexington, KY

#94 Oct 15, 2012
Talked to Shayna frequent wrote:
The people that were close friends (not those that keep saying I used to know or used to go to school with her)...would know that she had updated her facebook recently and in fact on Thursday posted modeling pics of herself from a professional photographer...atleast 50pics wearing different outfits. Then Friday her facebook disappears so either she manually took it down or her family/police/someone else blocked it. I dont believe this was a planned out as some have sketched it to be. I know for a fact that she was supposed to go to a pumpkin patch Saturday with Ryan. She wouldn't tell her close friends and group partners in class that they were going to the pumpkin patch if she was really planning on shooting Ryan. Yes she was smart enough to cover up a murder, but this sounds like an argument gone terribly wrong. If she really wanted Ryan dead she was smart enough to do it without letting his neighbors know especially with all the tv shows like criminal minds. Ryan must have had his gun out in the open and they had a normal fight that escalated too far. A lot of you close friends on here are saying she was crazy, yes but crazy dont kill...something must have got real bad that night for her to shoot him multiple times. Something so bad she knew once it was over she was in jail (since she didnt try to run away or anything else).
Her instagram looks like she already went to the pumpkin patch and posted about it 1 week ago... why go 2 weekends in a row?
curious

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#95 Oct 15, 2012
is her instagram public still?
Knew her

Lexington, KY

#96 Oct 15, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Her instagram looks like she already went to the pumpkin patch and posted about it 1 week ago... why go 2 weekends in a row?
As someone who knew her awhile ago, she was always a little off. She never had friends longer than a few months. She always talked bout her personal life, never cared about other peoples feelings or their life. She was nice to your face, but you could tell it wasn't sincere. When I met her, she had just left her sorority at UK. She was a DZ and said they were to strict and no fun. She constantly bitched about men. Wasnt really friends with her when she was dating Ryan. But do know she was known for sleeping around with married men. And would be devastated when they wouldn't leave their wife/fiancée/girlfriend! She was an odd one. Prayers to her and Ryan's family!
Friend

Monrovia, CA

#97 Oct 15, 2012
I know Shayna Very well, I am truly shocked and baffled by her actions. I agree with many of the posts. I feel she should have stayed very far away from Ryan. He made his points clear to her. Unaccepting of it yes she was. Multiple shots in self defense WHY? Forensic Science will get down to the details. The truth will be revealed. Ryan's life was taken and Shayna's ruined. It is very sad and my heart reaches out to the families of this tragedy.
Notorious

United States

#98 Oct 15, 2012
In Disbelief wrote:
I am in shock at the majority of this thread. Ryan is the victim in this situation. He did not deserve this. Going on the internet to spread rumors about the victim of a murder is gross. Most of the people who say that this girl told them things about their relationship also say that this girl lied and was "off". I cannot understand how so many people can claim she was a liar or a sociopath but then in the same breath put any stock in her words. Everyone that knew this girl in middle school or high school or for a summer will move on in their lives. Maybe think about that girl they knew who shot her boyfriend from time to time, but Ryan's family will think about his death every day. Every Christmas, Thanksgiving and birthday they will remember him. His parents will think about the grandchildren they might have had and his sisters will one day have to explain to their children what happened to uncle Ryan. By implying that he in some way was at fault for this is like putting a rape victim on trial instead of a rapist. No matter what their relationship was like this was not the answer and neither is dragging his name through the mud and making wild accusations when he cannot defend himself because Shayna took that ability away from him.
U obviously must be close to Ryan and I am sincerely sorry for your loss.. I think the majority of the people on here are dumbfounded, as many would agree shayna was 'off' I don't think many imagined this.. But this wasn't a random act of violence either, and I hope that words from this thread lead investigation to people that can spread the words and things said by shayna and the witnesses of their relationship to bring the justice that is deserved. I am so sorry for your loss
hmmm

Louisville, KY

#99 Oct 15, 2012
Friend wrote:
I know Shayna Very well, I am truly shocked and baffled by her actions. I agree with many of the posts. I feel she should have stayed very far away from Ryan. He made his points clear to her. Unaccepting of it yes she was. Multiple shots in self defense WHY? Forensic Science will get down to the details. The truth will be revealed. Ryan's life was taken and Shayna's ruined. It is very sad and my heart reaches out to the families of this tragedy.
Multiple shots to stop the threat in self defense. Not saying it was self defense in this case, just that it's normal and wise procedure. I have no idea why anyone would be that upset/angry to kill but she will have lots of time to figure it out.
Anonymous

United States

#100 Oct 15, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Okay I have known Shayna since 10th grade when I meet her in she was a zealot Christian damning everyone else. She was very nice though to everyone she talked to. I had two AP classes with her, she was very smart. She was known for radical personality changes. Our senior year she really started to change, she stated to party with me and my friends. She became a heavy drinker and moved on to older friends. I know she atleast experiment with drugs not sure if that play a factor with what happened. Freshman year of college she was kicked out of KD. She couldn't keep friends longer than a year. She was a sweet girl atleast to me but she was a known liar and stole things from friends. She had issues and problems but no one ever thought she would kill someone. I don't know everything that happened in their relationship but from what she always said they were both a little unstable in that relationship. She has been known for dating older men and married/engaged men so I know she had a lot of issues and if he had a few than it was enough to send her over the edge
she was a DG not KD
knew her

Shepherdsville, KY

#101 Oct 15, 2012
Yes, it was very clear to all that encountered Shayna that she was very socially awkward and mentally disturbed, to say the least. However, her relationship with Ryan was just as psychotic as Shayna herself. Ryan was extremely addicted to prescription pills. He would take uppers, such as adderall, to wake up in the morning, and eat downers, like ambiens, to fall asleep. She showed me numerous text message conversations from him where he would tell her a certain number to weigh, insisted she get a boob job, or even went as far as to tell her to get G spot shots (because he didn't want to put in the work to get her off). Although the texts he sent her were verbally abusive, I am not sure that he was physically abusive to her. Her alleged bruises could have been from their sexual relationship; Ryan was very into aggressive and kinky sex...his "sex" messages to her were very f'd up. He is the one who did not want to be in a relationship with her anymore. He and his cousin both tried to break it to Shayna in several different ways that he did not want to date her or even speak to her again. Ryan wanted Shayna out of his life, but she kept stalking him. She would dress up and drive to his apartment unannounced. She broke into his house one night and walked up on him while he was asleep. They got into a huge fight and he had to physically carry her out of his apartment. She couldn't let go. They were/are BOTH insane! However, no one deserves what happened, and she deserves to be behind bars.
hmmm

Louisville, KY

#102 Oct 15, 2012
anonymous person wrote:
Shayna always knew that she needed to stay away from Ryan. We all told her that but she refused. He had SERIOUS depression and honestly he could of taken her to the shooting range and set her up to kill him. He threatened suicide multiple times to everyone so she might of just gotten so angry she gave him what he wanted.Still though there is no excuse to go to these extremes, and I am praying for her family and his.
You're seriously delusional.

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