shayna hubers

[well]

KnewHerThruFriendsAtUK wrote:

She shot him, called 911, told police what happened, did not hesitate to say she shot him multiple times....a person who wanted someone dead may not have called at all and fled the scene or not called 911 at all.

She shot him in the head (but didn't call for help then when he might have survived), shot him multiple times after he was no longer able to move or pose a threat, waited 15 minutes, and then called 911 and announced he was dead. She wanted him dead.

[witnesses]

Still wanting to know what the neighbors who heard shots and "something hit the floor" were doing besides not calling 911? Not that it matters, I'm just curious where your mind has to be to not take action, but to wait for the killer to call and report it? Apparently they didn't plan to call for help at all and that amazes me.

[witnesses]

Kitty no I am Katty wrote:

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Could not agree more this forum is all speculation. Forensic Science you cannot argue with.

That's what public forums are supposed to be about - speculation, opinion, discussion.

[lol]

859 wrote:

She's good looking. She'll probably get off.

She won't have the access to beauty products in jail that helped her look better. As evidenced by her mugshot, she doesn't look very good when not enhanced and posing.

[859]

lol wrote:

<quoted text>She won't have the access to beauty products in jail that helped her look better. As evidenced by her mugshot, she doesn't look very good when not enhanced and posing.

Good point!

[PKE]

I still have no idea what any depression he suffered had to do with him getting shot. Depression much more often leads to crippling immobility than aggression. If we start assigning violence to depression, 3/4 of the people in this society in many professions either deserve to be killed or have an excuse to kill. We've opened too many doors to escaping blame for murder already.

[PKE]

KnewHerThruFriendsAtUK wrote:

Everyone speculating on here is stupid...

That's as far as you need to read to know where this post is going and why.

[PKE]

KnewHerThruFriendsAtUK wrote:

If you did not know her, him, or anything about the law then do not type.

I'm going to take a wild guess that there are many people typing and reading who are very familiar with the law.

[Law Firm Employee]

anon wrote:

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Statistics. Check the Johns Hopkins study on mental health and professionals: Psychology today "According to an often cited Johns Hopkins University study of more than 100 occupations, researchers found that lawyers lead the nation with the highest incidence of depression." (Google Lawyers and Depression and you can find many sources)
Lawyers are #1 for depression and 10x higher than #2. I know countless attorneys in recovery that managed high profile careers and ran successful firms while dealing with substance abuse and mental health disorders. That's not to say they don't eventually crash and burn and character and fitness certainly helps to catch some of them before they do.
I know nothing of Mr. Poston's personal life and do not wish to comment on that, just to say the assumption that a successful attorney couldn't also suffer from depression or substance abuse is incorrect.

According the Drug and alcohol rehabilition website attorneys are not even in the top 5 of treated careers. As far as stressful jobs Career Soldiers come in at #1. Jobs/Careers that have the highest percent of depression are nursing home staff. So again I am perplexed. Went to John Hopkins website and found no research to substantiate your claim. Not trying to be argumentative but Mr. Poston was a contributing member of society. Whether he had downtime where he cut loose that was his business. It didn't interfere with what he was trying to accomplish in life and career. And in no way a reason his life was snuffed out and discarded so carelessly.

[Bethy]

KnewHerThruFriendsAtUK wrote:

Everyone speculating on here is stupid... seriously stop typing. If you did not know her, him, or anything about the law then do not type. People who want to be informed have to read through all of this nonsense.
Anyways, lets paint a scenario for all of you who keep speculating this wasnt self defense...
say they had an argument that friday night. maybe they were drinking too who knows. We do know the neighbor saw/heard shayna crying outside on balcony. so we know an argument or struggle took place in the 30minutes after that. Ryan, bigger than shayna, maybe was being too aggressive and hit/attempted to hit shayna (I mean look at her mugshot, she looks roughed up)...and for anyone who knew her like me knows she was always dolled up. Now where does the gun come in? Shayna didnt own guns so it was obviously Ryan's. Maybe he had it out, was cleaning it or who knows. No way to prove it wasnt already out...since she is only one at the scene who can testify. Now the police have to reconstruct the scene in court and prove she did not act in self defense. The fact he was shot in the face means the gun was at an angle (because of their height difference).
Those of you saying she didnt do it in self defense based on her shooting him in the face and then again in the chest while on the ground shaking...well the fact she told the police she put him out of his misery shows them (and in future the jury) she cared for him (as cruel and unusual as that sounds). The fact she waited 15 minutes to call 911 has no significance in this case because we all stop, observe, react...when in a bad situation that our minds must adjust to. What did she do in that 15mins? who knows, but I know I would check his body for vital signs etc.
The main thing that has to be said is that no matter what you think...this case now lies in the hands of the prosecutor and the juror. You can think whatever you want about Shayna and how crazy she may have been, but the defense will put out as much that can be said about Ryan just as much as the prosecutor will use against Shayna. Since Shayna is only one alive (rip Ryan) her word is what will be based on. From the reports available from news/police, there are no holes against her in the story. She shot him, called 911, told police what happened, did not hesitate to say she shot him multiple times....a person who wanted someone dead may not have called at all and fled the scene or not called 911 at all.
So remember these tidbits of a scenario I painted and remember you know nothing more than what you want to believe based on what you think you already know.

ORRRR, maybe she shot him dead because she is a deranged psycho who wasn't getting her way.

[lol]

witnesses wrote:

Still wanting to know what the neighbors who heard shots and "something hit the floor" were doing besides not calling 911? Not that it matters, I'm just curious where your mind has to be to not take action, but to wait for the killer to call and report it? Apparently they didn't plan to call for help at all and that amazes me.

They were just finally glad to have some peace and quiet.. I know, not funny.. That is pretty fd up they did nothing

[Heard Reason Re Bail]

I heard that shooter ransacked condo and tried to destroy evidence, i.e. cell phone, computer... Can't confirm if anyone has better intel.

[haha]

KnewHerThruFriendsAtUK wrote:

Everyone speculating on here is stupid... seriously stop typing. If you did not know her, him, or anything about the law then do not type. People who want to be informed have to read through all of this nonsense.
Anyways, lets paint a scenario for all of you who keep speculating this wasnt self defense...
say they had an argument that friday night. maybe they were drinking too who knows. We do know the neighbor saw/heard shayna crying outside on balcony. so we know an argument or struggle took place in the 30minutes after that. Ryan, bigger than shayna, maybe was being too aggressive and hit/attempted to hit shayna (I mean look at her mugshot, she looks roughed up)...and for anyone who knew her like me knows she was always dolled up. Now where does the gun come in? Shayna didnt own guns so it was obviously Ryan's. Maybe he had it out, was cleaning it or who knows. No way to prove it wasnt already out...since she is only one at the scene who can testify. Now the police have to reconstruct the scene in court and prove she did not act in self defense. The fact he was shot in the face means the gun was at an angle (because of their height difference).
Those of you saying she didnt do it in self defense based on her shooting him in the face and then again in the chest while on the ground shaking...well the fact she told the police she put him out of his misery shows them (and in future the jury) she cared for him (as cruel and unusual as that sounds). The fact she waited 15 minutes to call 911 has no significance in this case because we all stop, observe, react...when in a bad situation that our minds must adjust to. What did she do in that 15mins? who knows, but I know I would check his body for vital signs etc.
The main thing that has to be said is that no matter what you think...this case now lies in the hands of the prosecutor and the juror. You can think whatever you want about Shayna and how crazy she may have been, but the defense will put out as much that can be said about Ryan just as much as the prosecutor will use against Shayna. Since Shayna is only one alive (rip Ryan) her word is what will be based on. From the reports available from news/police, there are no holes against her in the story. She shot him, called 911, told police what happened, did not hesitate to say she shot him multiple times....a person who wanted someone dead may not have called at all and fled the scene or not called 911 at all.
So remember these tidbits of a scenario I painted and remember you know nothing more than what you want to believe based on what you think you already know.

Whoever wrote this is a complete dumbass, I'm sorry. You're telling people "If you don't know anything about the law then don't type," but from what I'm reading I find it very difficult to believe that you're in law school, or know anything about the law for that matter. You also say that she continued to shoot him "to put him out of his misery" but then possibly spent a whopping fifteen minutes on "checking for vital signs." I don't think it would take me fifteen minutes to figure out if someone was dead if I shot them in the face, and then proceeded to shoot them multiple times thereafter. And considering how little information is currently available about the ongoings of that night, I refuse to believe you know anything about whether or not there are holes in her story. Take my advice and don't continue to comment on this forum because you're only embarrassing yourself. And you aren't helping your friend Shayna's case at all, only bringing to light the kind of airheads she surrounded herself with.

[fyi]

Law Firm Employee wrote:

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Wondering where u got your intel? Have worked for a law firm for over 20 years. Worked with everyone from clerks to Managing Partner and can honestly say I've never experienced what you're describing. This young man had a bright future. You don't graduate with three degrees attend law school pass the bar by being a pill popper. All we can find about Miss Hubers is that she graduated high school. What a waste.

Not that this makes a huge difference. What Shayna did was CRAZY and unforgivable, but she also had a bright future that she has thrown away. She graduated from UK with a Bachelors in Psychology, ironicly, in May. And I believe she wasn't done with school. I spoke to her over a year ago and don't remember specifically what she said her plans were, but I remember being impressed.

[anon]

Not that Law Firm Employee was implying that it isn't an issue at all... someone previously commented that you couldn't get through law school, pass the bar and run a successful practice while suffering from depression or an addiction. That's just not the case.

[anonymous person]

Law Firm Employee wrote:

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Wondering where u got your intel? Have worked for a law firm for over 20 years. Worked with everyone from clerks to Managing Partner and can honestly say I've never experienced what you're describing. This young man had a bright future. You don't graduate with three degrees attend law school pass the bar by being a pill popper. All we can find about Miss Hubers is that she graduated high school. What a waste.

I bet your parents didn't pay for you to make it through law school like his did... and Shayna graduated from UK in three years and went on to a psych program at another college.

[Lawyer]

I find it humorous as well that someone claimed to have worked in a law firm for 20 years and has NEVER heard that lawyers have extremely high rates of alcoholism and suicide. We actually had a CLE on JUST that topic during the 2011 Bar Convention haha So that guy is obviously an idiot. (CLE's are Continuing Legal Education seminars where lawyers are required to go to continuing learning about the law)

[Whos Culpable]

fyi wrote:

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Not that this makes a huge difference. What Shayna did was CRAZY and unforgivable, but she also had a bright future that she has thrown away. She graduated from UK with a Bachelors in Psychology, ironicly, in May. And I believe she wasn't done with school. I spoke to her over a year ago and don't remember specifically what she said her plans were, but I remember being impressed.

From reading this forum to say that Shayna stretched the truth is a huge understatement. Do we know for a fact she graduated? If so why have the news outlets found no confirmation to this claim? I know two lives and families were ruined but people who claimed to know her should have taken steps to get her the help she so greatly needed. So tragic on all counts.

[Anon]

anonymous person wrote:

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I bet your parents didn't pay for you to make it through law school like his did... and Shayna graduated from UK in three years and went on to a psych program at another college.

If she was a psych major she obviously wasn't paying attention.

[anon]

Lawyer wrote:

I find it humorous as well that someone claimed to have worked in a law firm for 20 years and has NEVER heard that lawyers have extremely high rates of alcoholism and suicide. We actually had a CLE on JUST that topic during the 2011 Bar Convention haha So that guy is obviously an idiot.(CLE's are Continuing Legal Education seminars where lawyers are required to go to continuing learning about the law)

Amen brother (or sister). It's an epidemic. The KLUs will be addressing High Functioning Impairment in the Legal Profession as well. Hit the one in Lexington, if you can. It's great.