Abundant Living clinic owners sue oth...

Abundant Living clinic owners sue other owner

There are 137 comments on the Lexington Herald-Leader story from Dec 16, 2012, titled Abundant Living clinic owners sue other owner. In it, Lexington Herald-Leader reports that:

The owners of a hormone replacement clinic in Lexington are suing another owner and manager of the clinic with negligence and malfeasance, according to a lawsuit filed in Fayette Circuit Court.

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Not a Happy Camper

Lebanon, KY

#64 Jan 9, 2013
Has anyone who was a patient been contacted by Abundant Living? If not, can anyone tell me if they have started legal procedures against this company and who is the attorney representing them? I have filed a complaint with the BBB and they contacted me and said that they could not get Abundant Living to responded back to them. That's no surprise! I have also filed a complaint with the KY Attorney Generals office. I'm ready to take it a step further and sue them for what every the law will allow. Such a shame that a medical business would do this to their patients who In trusted their health and well begin to them.
Irritated

United States

#65 Jan 9, 2013
I am ready to sue as well. I called the AL office yesterday and got a live person who said that they currently have no medical director and no medical staff so they cannot help patients with medications or supplements. She said they hope to open in February. What are patients supposed to do until then? Go without medical care? We paid for care that we cannot receive. Sounds like a lawsuit to me.
patient

Grayson, KY

#66 Jan 9, 2013
I want my medical records to go somewhere else!! I don't care if they reopen or not-I will never let them treat me again!! While Betts may have ran the Lexington office and stolen money and left vendors unpaid, he isn't alone in this fraud!! The main owners knew damn well what was going on and continued to allow him to take people's money for services that they ALL knew would not be provided! The main owners did NOT find out about this scam over night. They are just as guilty as Betts as far as I am concerned.

How many other people were called in back in late autumn to put forth the $12, 500.00 in exchange for not only repayment but also 2 years free treatment? We will never see that money back either!! Betts is not the only one to be slapped with a suit, the whole company will (with the exception of employees such as the PA, nurses, receptionists). They get ppl to put up al mm almost 13k in October/November then close down in December!?!?!? No, the "big wigs" knew they were screwing us over.
Angry

Chesterfield, MO

#67 Jan 9, 2013
Irritated wrote:
I am ready to sue as well. I called the AL office yesterday and got a live person who said that they currently have no medical director and no medical staff so they cannot help patients with medications or supplements. She said they hope to open in February. What are patients supposed to do until then? Go without medical care? We paid for care that we cannot receive. Sounds like a lawsuit to me.
Whether they open or not I don't trust them i talked to an attorney and grant it I will get my money back I made a visit to hrc and I'll put it this way,they will be seeing a lot more of me. They are more professional anyway! Ladies don't set and suffer because Of this greedy man,go somewhere else.
Angry

Chesterfield, MO

#68 Jan 9, 2013
patient wrote:
I want my medical records to go somewhere else!! I don't care if they reopen or not-I will never let them treat me again!! While Betts may have ran the Lexington office and stolen money and left vendors unpaid, he isn't alone in this fraud!! The main owners knew damn well what was going on and continued to allow him to take people's money for services that they ALL knew would not be provided! The main owners did NOT find out about this scam over night. They are just as guilty as Betts as far as I am concerned.
How many other people were called in back in late autumn to put forth the $12, 500.00 in exchange for not only repayment but also 2 years free treatment? We will never see that money back either!! Betts is not the only one to be slapped with a suit, the whole company will (with the exception of employees such as the PA, nurses, receptionists). They get ppl to put up al mm almost 13k in October/November then close down in December!?!?!? No, the "big wigs" knew they were screwing us over.
I just posted that I went to hrc and they didn't ask for my records they were glad to have me as a patient they were so professional can't wait to start doing business with them. And yes they sent me a letter in oct. to sign back up with them but I was paid up til dec.my husband was furious I felt then something was wrong.and hrc does thier financing totaly different than A.L wish I went there to begin with
DCT

Winchester, KY

#69 Jan 10, 2013
Well wrote:
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Good grief an RN should know this was a scam and not medically indicated or it would be provided by your PCP and insurance would pick up the tab. Sorry you got taken but people should use their brain about these miracle clinics - lesson learned.
First off & good grief because I'm a retired RN,is no way for me to know they were scammers!! Why would my former education tell me that???You just made statements concerning my case you know nothing about!! You're talking about other patients there then you speak this way out of the corner of your mouth lady.There was something not done each time i went, my brain working, I knew then. If you were so smart how did you end up there bright one??
DCT

Winchester, KY

#70 Jan 10, 2013
still paying wrote:
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Post it on Rip off report
Thank you!!!
DCT

Winchester, KY

#71 Jan 10, 2013
Thank you for the head s up on Rip Off Reports!!
DCT

Winchester, KY

#72 Jan 10, 2013
Oh, I'[ve hqad then call me from the Abundant Living Medical Clinic. I had called & left many messages & i pointed out some things that were not truthful & I wanted to talk to Mr. Betts ASAP. Also my ace in the whole, the phone number of thr DR. who was supposed to be seeing me eack week. They talked to my husband & we can see your wife is very upset & we will take care of all her concerns when we open back at the first of the year. I was surprised a phone call came back. I'm thinking they saw my one ace in the hole to put them under the table for good& i stated it & i'm sure that's why i received a phone call. i truly believe they are running scared at my allegations in my messages left. By the way, there is an attorney's right when you come in the door, it's on the right side. I do intend to sue!!Just have to wait a little longer!!One statement I made I'm sure is what caused them to call me.How many were there for wt loss??
DCT

Winchester, KY

#73 Jan 10, 2013
Abundant living medical wrote:
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Lexington clinic is not owned by doctors as independent. The doctors work for the clinic. Abundant living is a speciality clinic. Call the State medical board. Or better yet me. Attorney connected to the medical board. Any medical attorney. I'm here to offer free help to the public.
How do we contact you??? I knew the clinic was not owned by a dr & the dr's work for the clinic??? What dr's??? I never saw one at all & was supposed to have been every week as they told me 7 i would say one other thing here online about that at this time but it's detrimental to them.
Leigh

Lexington, KY

#74 Jan 14, 2013
I had been a pt for only a year. They seemed like they were inexperienced in treating patients and I never seen a doctor there. I think there was one when I started and then he left. Abundant living caused my VitB 12 to go to extreme levels. My doc said this could caused my kidneys to overwork. I also heard another pt was getting different lab readings at abundant compared to his dr. I do not think they knew what they were doing. Thank God I didn't invest for another year. Everyone should get their records/labs from abundant to take to your doctor. Good Luck everyone!!!
Mrs Yoder

Louisville, KY

#75 Jan 20, 2013
lol wrote:
If you need some kind of "hormone therapy", why can't you get it from your primary care provider?
#1 - PCP's aren't trained in hormone therapy.
#2 - PCP's will only refer you to specialists who 8 out of 10 times will give you synthetic hormones that contain added molecule chains which cause adverse and even opposite reactions to what is intended.
Angry

Chesterfield, MO

#76 Jan 21, 2013
Well the game is over for me I signed up with hrc already got labs got appointment with the dr didn't get the run around with an answering machine,abundant living is a joke. Life goes on!!!!
Former Patient

Versailles, KY

#77 Jan 31, 2013
Whatever happened to Dr. Phil? Does anyone know? I thought he was the most professional of them all.
Angry

Chesterfield, MO

#78 Jan 31, 2013
Former Patient wrote:
Whatever happened to Dr. Phil? Does anyone know? I thought he was the most professional of them all.
I was told by one of the nurses he away from here running his own business. I wouldn't too crazy about him when I first started there he had my hormones levels so high it wouldn't funny it ran my blood pressure up I gained weight I stopped seeing him and saw the nurses. I think he's a whack anyway!
Former HRC patient

Richmond, KY

#79 Feb 1, 2013
Angry wrote:
<quoted text>I just posted that I went to hrc and they didn't ask for my records they were glad to have me as a patient they were so professional can't wait to start doing business with them. And yes they sent me a letter in oct. to sign back up with them but I was paid up til dec.my husband was furious I felt then something was wrong.and hrc does thier financing totaly different than A.L wish I went there to begin with
I'm glad you are happy with HRC, but be careful. They had my hormone levels so high I got an irregular heartbeat and very tender breasts. At least ALMC tends to keep levels normal to low.
Also, HRC has a "F" rating on the BBB website. Apparently they are being sued in another state--wouldnt surprise me if they had a meltdown like Abundant Living soon. Hormones do great things for women, its just hard to find a honest place that treats you right.
Kingpin

Jasper, IN

#80 Feb 3, 2013
Disappointed wrote:
Half way through the weight loss program and now the doors are shut. I can only hope there is some honor in the ownership.
If there is no resolution then the patient become victims and we will need to be cautious of legal sharks as well as embezzlers.
Recommend all report to the local BBB.
Maybe DA Larson will get evolved?
the BBB, is that a joke? They can't do anything but give them a low rating.
Kingpin

Jasper, IN

#81 Feb 3, 2013
Former Patient wrote:
Whatever happened to Dr. Phil? Does anyone know? I thought he was the most professional of them all.
He's not a real doctor. He been trained in massage at Pikeville's DO school. Everybody uses the title doctor. If they don't have M.D. After their name, run
Lol

Jasper, IN

#82 Feb 3, 2013
Did you "patients" believe Micheal 's comericial when he said," your husbands don't get you but I do"? Micheal has been addicted to pills for years and in and out of rehabs. Why would anyone trust him?
What

Jasper, IN

#83 Feb 3, 2013
Mrs Yoder wrote:
<quoted text>
#1 - PCP's aren't trained in hormone therapy.
#2 - PCP's will only refer you to specialists who 8 out of 10 times will give you synthetic hormones that contain added molecule chains which cause adverse and even opposite reactions to what is intended.
if your PCP is a medical Doctor he's trained. If he's not a MD, you shouldn't be seeing him

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